Pence "discouraged, disheartened, hurt and stunned," source says

[sabra]

Source: CBS News

A former White House official with close ties to Vice President Mike Pence described the vice president as "discouraged, disheartened, hurt and stunned" by President Trump's treatment of him, and is "disgusted" by the storming of the Capitol on Wednesday.

The source said Pence never seriously considered using the 25th Amendment to remove Mr. Trump from office. The source said that during conversations earlier in the administration, White House lawyers researched its applicability and found it really covered incapacity, due to things like a serious injury or undergoing anesthesia.

The source said it is Pence's goal to lay low this week, carrying out Coronavirus Task Force duties and making sure his presence is felt — if for no other reason than to steady traumatized staffers trying to make sense of their purpose in this strange time of inactivity and nervousness.

The source advised that Pence intends to do something to show a smooth transition of power, although what that might be has yet to be decided. Options include inviting the incoming president and vice president to the Naval Observatory, greeting the Bidens at the White House for a ceremonial tea, or greeting them at the Blair House and riding with them to the inauguration.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-impeachment-2021-01-11/#post-update-f47c594e

[CentralMass]

1. Try something new Mike, do the right thing.

[Merlot]

31. Well, he was going to have tea with them...

That's a big step for mikey.

[luv2fly]

2. Waaah

Poor pitiful enabler.

[Walleye]

3. So he finally knows how we've been feeling for the past four years

[torius]

4. A ceremonial tea.

Surrounded by heavily armed guards. How sweet.

[soothsayer]

26. Make him drink first

And switch the cups

[FailureToCommunicate]

64. And Biden should dose up with Lydocane.

[NRaleighLiberal]

5. mannequins can react?

[oswaldactedalone]

6. Mike

don't feel like the lone ranger. We feel the same way about you.

[JI7]

7. Fuck this Coward. Enabling piece of shit.

[Kaleva]

12. Biden seems to like him.

[groundloop]

52. Well, ANYONE is a saint compared to Benedict Donald

[man4allcats]

35. + 100 n/t

[mackdaddy]

8. Gee, I guess having the President sending a Murder Mob to kill you might be a bummer?

That and you had your wife and daughter with you when you have to hide in a secure bunker to stay alive.

I guess that is not enough to invoke the 25th though...

[Merlot]

34. I can not believe he invited his wife and daughter to the Capitol

There were congress persons who told their staff not to come in because they thought something bad could happen - and mikey invites his family.

[yardwork]

45. We've known that Pence is stupid for a long time.

[Corgigal]

60. And he still won't fight.

Won’t fight for the threat of his wife and daughter.

Still met with him, and probably wagged his tail.

An embarrassing human.

[Paladin]

9. Did anybody ever really think Pence would do anything remotely like the right thing?

I sure as hell didn't.

[Kaleva]

10. Pence will be doing what Trump should be doing.

While Trump spends time trying to tweet:

"Options include inviting the incoming president and vice president to the Naval Observatory, greeting the Bidens at the White House for a ceremonial tea, or greeting them at the Blair House and riding with them to the inauguration.
"

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-impeachment-2021-01-11/#post-update-f47c594e

[ret5hd]

15. Don't drink the tea!!!

[C_U_L8R]

11. Tea?

He thinks a fucking tea party is the answer to violent sedition and a terroristic attack on the United States government ? Really? Is he totally out to fucking lunch?

[Lock him up.]

74. The flies ate it. nt

[thucythucy]

13. Hey Mr. Vice President, try to imagine how "discouraged, disheartened, hurt and stunned"

parents seeking asylum from horrific violence, only to be separated from their children, feel.

After that try imagining what it's like being a small child, separated from your parents and locked inside a cage.

[BlueIdaho]

14. And thus ends the pathetic political career

Of a guy who never measured up to the task at hand.

[live love laugh]

16. How come all the Republican sources are always secret? Cowards. nt

[Nasruddin]

17. Sure sounds like Republican presidential leadership material

[PlanetBev]

18. Well, gee, Mike

You knew that loyalty is a one-way street with Trump. What made you the exception?

Dumbass...

[njhoneybadger]

19. Mother warned him.

[Phoenix61]

20. This is the guy Manafort picked to be VP.

Guess he knew a spineless worm when he saw one.

[LiberalLovinLug]

21. So he's either an incredibly stupid ignorant person who can't see what's in front of his face

Or he knew full well how Trump backstabs others and lies, and was too arrogant to imagine the President would ever dis his VP like that.

[BainsBane]

36. that's it

exactly. I think it's the latter.

[Chellee]

78. As a Hoosier,

I have to tell you that you're underestimating how incredibly dumb he is.

[yankeepants]

22. OMG, Gurl! Your hunky date stiffed you for the prom?!

[Hassler]

23. But still a grovelling toady

[Irish_Dem]

24. Pence is the acting president, but he doesn't think we need 25A.

And recent events shock him.

Pence's IQ is on the wrong side of the bell shaped curve.

[bucolic_frolic]

32. Yup

That's where my mind goes too. Trump could not really do anything he wants right now. Assurances he can't activate the football have been given, Twitter clipped his chirps, the levers of power may not be inactive as much as very stiff and hard to move. Just hope there is no serious national security issue. But even there Pence may find his mojo quickly.

[Irish_Dem]

38. I am assuming the NSC, Pence, Pelosi, McConnell have the situation under control.

Trump is out of the loop.

[dhill926]

25. definition of a sniveling coward...

[Marrah_Goodman]

27. Sorry, he knew who Trump was and what he was doing

He doesn't get to play victim now.

[birdographer]

28. I don't think so

The Constitution seems to be a little fuzzy on this point. Excerpt from a USA Today article:

"Late former Sen. Birch Bayh wrote in his book “One Heartbeat Away: Presidential Disability and Succession” that he knew the most controversial aspect of the amendment he authored would be how to handle the rare instances when a president’s team disputed his ability to serve.

“You know, fellows, we've talked about this problem a hundred times,” Bayh recounted, telling his aides when they were in the final stages of negotiation. “The only time it would present itself – the only time the president would say 'I'm well and able' and the vice president and cabinet would disagree – would be if the president was as nutty as a fruit cake.”

We have been at the fruit cake stage for awhile now.

[Lock him up.]

76. But... but... but... Sending a murderous mob to attack the Historic Capitol is perfectly normal...

When the President does it, it's not a crime, eh, Mike?

[Skittles]

29. how fucking stupid *IS* this man?

HE'S BEEN WATCHING TRUMP TREAT PEOPLE LIKE SHIT FOR YEARS.

[Kali]

75. oh he's pretty fucking stupid

[llmart]

30. This is what happens to you with too much indoctrination into religion from an early age.

This guy is so damned stupid and or cowardly he'll not even do the right thing when his very hide was on the line thanks to his boss.

[mtngirl47]

33. Thoughts and prayers Mike. n/t

[H2O Man]

69. +1

[UpInArms]

37. Cry me a river

You (pence) stupid obsequious piece of dishonorable garbage.

[VladmireTrumpkins]

39. Stunned???!!

He must be the dumbest man on earth if Trumps behavior has stunned him!!

[Baclava]

41. No shit. Trump has proven 10,000 times he only cares about himself

So, yeah, a tea party sounds perfect

[martalcd]

40. He literally is the biggest moron...

He's watched Trumpf throw people under the bus several times daily, for the past five years, and is stunned that he now has been thrown under that same bus? This man should not be in any position of power, if he has no capacity to see what is going on around him. No wonder he stunk as a Governor.

[area51]

44. +1 n/t

[3catwoman3]

42. Time for some revenge, Mikey.

25 the 45!

[Jetheels]

43. Carrying out covid task force duties? Really?

The defense production act hasn’t been enabled yet what ya waiting for? Till a half million are dead?

[George II]

46. When you sleep with dogs, you wake up with fleas.

[Jetheels]

47. I wouldn't ascribe emotions such as discouraged, disheartened, hurt, and stunned

to a demon.

[regnaD kciN]

48. Poor Mikey...

[KentuckyWoman]

49. I do not care about Mike Pence's precious feelings.

25th and quit yer whining.

[RVN VET71]

50. Look, Trump knows full well that Pence did not have the authority to hold up the count.

He knew that as a fact and was probably reminded of that truth by whatever is left of the WH staff. He still “ordered” Pence to do it, and he did so deliberately precisely so he could throw Pence under the bus -- or in this case, throw him to the mob. And Pence has to know that he knows. Pence has to know that the son of a bitch set him up as a target for the mob for no other reason than to give himself a little clearer image as the "Chosen One, betrayed by one of his apostles. In this case Pence is Judas, and screw the consequences to Pence and his family.

But Pence still lacks the spine to act, to step up and do the right thing.

And his inaction has to be from fear, plain and simple. Realizing that the devil he’s worked for since 2017 has turned his evil wrath on him has left him trembling praying for guidance from the Lord.

I’d bet that he and Mother have been praying hard for an explanation from the good Lord, almost ceaselessly, especially since the crowd of traitors in the Capitol Building were looking for him, and shouting his name in conjunction with a hanging. Pray, on ones knees, to God and his son Jesus.

And, like all these hypocritical christians who have tolerated Trump’s crimes and sins for so long as excusable because Trump's been “chosen”, Pence hears god’s convenient answer, No seriously, it goes something like this: "Michael, do not do anything to hurt my Chosen One. You’ve been a good boy and will come unto me if you just keep cool and let this pass.” All of which means that, after all, Pence really can’t take any strong action against the worst human being in America because Pence and mother have received a heaven-sent revelation directly Mr. Big (by which I mean God, not Trump).

[Withywindle]

51. I seem to remember a fable about this

Something about a scorpion and a frog?


You knew he was a scorpion all along you dumb fuck. Of course he's gonna sting you too.

[blue-wave]

53. Hey Mike!

I have a suggestion. Grow a pair and invoke the 25th!!

[world wide wally]

54. Prove it, coward

[sakabatou]

55. Oh boo fucking hoo

[dweller]

56. Pence is

a shmoo in a suit


✌🏻

[rpannier]

57. Oh Waaaaahhhhhhhhhh!

[Chemisse]

58. An anemic response from an anemic personality.

At least it's positive, and that is a relief. I'm a lot happier that he is clueless than evil.

[robbob]

59. Good, good, good,

and good.

[Girard442]

61. He really is Fredo Corleone, isn't he?

[PatrickforO]

62. Pence never has had much intestinal fortitude, has he?

We are all hurt and stunned, and the fact the object of your sycophantic worship literally threw you under the bus and incited people to kill you has got to hurt.

I understand, Mike.

But sometimes being hurt and stunned, disheartened and discouraged, and disgusted just is not enough.

You have to do something about it. You have to get up off the floor, roll up your sleeves and do what needs to be done.

[lonely bird]

63. Then Pence is flat out stupid

WTF did he think when Trump picked him? All Pence was doing was looking for work because he sure had no political future in Indiana. Now he’s butt hurt because Trump turned out to be evil and a piece of crap?

Fer Chrissakes, Pence, how do you manage to engage in any higher motor functions?

[LiberalFighter]

65. White House lawyers researched its applicability and found it really covered incapacity?

Relying on White House lawyers who were beholden to Trump? That is a laugh believing them.

[orleans]

66. 2 hours later cbs new (on the tv)

said pence & trump met tonight and will work together. wtf??
so, it sounds like 25th is off the table

[Mr. Evil]

80. Amazing, isn't it?

President Nazivomit basically advocated for his death and Pence still has his tongue permanently attached deep inside the president's anal cavity.

[orleans]

83. it is amazing, but i also think pence is scared shitless

look how the trumpers were after him the other day.
i think pence figures if he goes with the 25th amendment those fuckers would make sure they found him.

[niyad]

67. "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?" I keep seeing the murdering thug and Henry VIII

(In Henry's later days, not the young Henry of "The Tudors&quot

[NRaleighLiberal]

68. is he also bewitched, bothered and bewildered? and...concerned?

[JoeOtterbein]

70. Boo...

...sorry, but I don't even care enough to add the h...

[Talitha]

71. They claim A25 "really covered incapacity"?

That includes mental incapacity too, you morons!

[MontanaMama]

72. I wonder how many women

from his home state have been discouraged, disheartened, hurt and stunned that they had to pay for a burial for their miscarried fetuses? I have nothing for this man. Nothing.

[C Moon]

73. Because he knows once he leaves the White House, his life will become zero.

So why should he do the "Christian" thing and help those in need?
Pence is just another I, me, mine person in the Trump administration.

[cstanleytech]

77. He is a Republican so he has an agenda which is probably to try and get the public perception of him

out there that he behaving in a "Presidential" manner so that in 4 to 8 years he can run for the Republican nomination.

[marble falls]

79. Discouraged, Disheartened, Hurt and Stunned - isn't that the law firm that lost Trumps first lawsuit

[flibbitygiblets]

81. Damn, I thought Mondays were tough, but at least my boss didn't try to have me murdered

(And don't think I didn't mention that in our team meeting today.)

Ah Mike. Mike, Mike Mike. If you hadn't been so sexually repressed, you'd have learned long ago not to let bad boys use you and throw you away. Face it pal, he was never into you. The only way you'll ever have respect for yourself is to toss his ass to the curb.

[SWBTATTReg]

82. And this will stop trump in case he really goes nuts? Not doing anything serious to trump, pretend

all is well, etc.? Pence is fooling himself, like he has already for his whole life? It's time to step up!

[badboy67]

84. The GOP hopes Trump's next "action" is more successful.

[yuiyoshida]

85. Maybe he should just quit

and do us all a favor.

[DFW]

87. I do all the time

But I pick my Russians carefully

[DFW]

89. I do usually make the tea, it's true

Europe has seen up close what happens to countries under Russian domination. There is a reason countries like Germany are flooded with immigrants from Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine, Kazakhstan and Russia, itself. It’s a one way street, and there is a reason for that.

[DFW]

93. Russians do it differently

They sweeten their tea with fruit jam or marmalade, a practice I have adopted as well. I usually use apricot or raspberry. I prefer spiced tea, my favorite being Bigelow’s Constant Comment. This is a pain for me, since I can’t get it in Europe, but what’s the point of having a world HQ in Texas if they can’t send things over, right? The Twinings lichee flavored herbal is great too, but that’s so limited edition, my friends in London can’t even find it for me.

[muriel_volestrangler]

91. Arthur Dent?

[raccoon]

94. You knew he was a snake, Pence. In T

[Maeve]

95. But he can't say he wasn't warned

Everything tRump touches....

[yellowcanine]

96. Definitely have no more fucks to give Mike Pence.