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sabra

(30,406 posts)
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:52 PM Jan 2021

Trump not expected to be criminally charged with inciting Capitol riot, Justice Department says

Source: cnbc

President Donald Trump is not expected to be criminally charged with inciting a riot at the U.S. Capitol, a Department of Justice official said Friday.

“We don’t expect any charges of that nature,” the official said when asked by a reporter if the DOJ was considering charges against speakers at a rally for Trump right before the riot Wednesday.

Trump, his lawyer Rudy Giuliani, and Trump’s eldest son Donald Trump Jr. all had spoken at the rally.

Another DOJ official said that at this point the investigation is focused solely on criminal acts at the Capitol building.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/08/capitol-riot-trump-will-not-face-charges-for-inciting-mob-doj-says.html

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Trump not expected to be criminally charged with inciting Capitol riot, Justice Department says (Original Post) sabra Jan 2021 OP
Fine, we'll impeach him Maeve Jan 2021 #1
SSSHHH Light63 Jan 2021 #40
He can still be charged after being convicted in the senate. christx30 Jan 2021 #42
He can still be charged after being convicted in the senate. christx30 Jan 2021 #43
If any r's are worried about trump's base Marthe48 Jan 2021 #46
And He Can Be Impeached After He's Left Office COL Mustard Jan 2021 #50
Let's revisit in a couple weeks soothsayer Jan 2021 #2
This nt stopwastingmymoney Jan 2021 #22
Yup Karma13612 Jan 2021 #26
Expectations not binding on Judge Garland's DoJ. CincyDem Jan 2021 #3
'at this point the investigation is focused solely on criminal acts at the Capitol building.' elleng Jan 2021 #4
sounds like they're worried about.. stillcool Jan 2021 #10
They're doing an IMMEDIATE job, elleng Jan 2021 #12
Well that sucks vlyons Jan 2021 #5
That it does. Jay25 Jan 2021 #39
Then let Merrick Garland's DOJ take care of it. ananda Jan 2021 #6
Hmmm ... in 12 days the Justice Department will have a different attitude UpInArms Jan 2021 #7
He said "at this point" due to their damn memo (to not "charge" the POS) nt Lock him up. Jan 2021 #62
I'll believe that more readily once Jeff Rosen leaves the building. Eugene Jan 2021 #8
Of course Trump's current ACTING AG is punting this one. marylandblue Jan 2021 #9
The cult leader gets off. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #11
I don't think so. Karma13612 Jan 2021 #28
I certainly hope so. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #29
True. Nt Karma13612 Jan 2021 #30
I agree musclecar6 Jan 2021 #13
The comment from a DOJ official has no bearing on what happens. madaboutharry Jan 2021 #14
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Jan 2021 #25
Yep... IthinkThereforeIAM Jan 2021 #57
Will see how the new JD handles it. nt yaesu Jan 2021 #15
BULLSHIT orangecrush Jan 2021 #16
That sounds official, but I doubt it's final bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #17
Declining to prosecute now does not prevent Biden's DOJ from doing so later. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #18
we have to wait for ACTUAL investigations and if we see the Sedition Act used beachbumbob Jan 2021 #19
This decision best used by 1/20/21. n/t FSogol Jan 2021 #20
Trump's speech is all the proof they need bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #21
But inciting a riot is exactly what he fucking did! canuckledragger Jan 2021 #23
Maybe not by this leaderless DOJ....but we'll see in a few weeks. nt SunSeeker Jan 2021 #24
Come on Donnie Boy twodogsbarking Jan 2021 #27
"don't expect" BlueWavePsych Jan 2021 #31
Point: "AT THIS POINT...focused solely on criminal acts at the Capitol building." Grins Jan 2021 #32
It's Too Early To Draw That Conclusion modrepub Jan 2021 #33
...not YET, anyways. We'll see about that in a couple weeks. Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #34
The DOJ that Biden told us edhopper Jan 2021 #35
He's royalty. Baron Golfin von Fatfuk is above the law. Mc Mike Jan 2021 #36
God forbid Turbineguy Jan 2021 #37
this the Trump DOJ weissmam Jan 2021 #38
Fine. The next DoJ can charge him and can't the city of D.C. charge him too? Botany Jan 2021 #41
That is bullshit. Scarborough is right. Arrest 45, Jr., Guiliani for inciting sedition. Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #44
This man skates on EVERYTHING. AngryOldDem Jan 2021 #45
The person who plans a bank robbery is guility too..... Bengus81 Jan 2021 #47
That's BS. Sogo Jan 2021 #48
I worked in public Marthe48 Jan 2021 #49
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2021 #51
Shit i bet this is just to keep rump from exploding bluestarone Jan 2021 #52
How sad is it when the elected leader of the free world is said to be not arrested or charged? marble falls Jan 2021 #53
sounds like no one incited a riot orleans Jan 2021 #54
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2021 #55
Arrest all of them!!! marieo1 Jan 2021 #56
I think this a good thing. Scruffy1 Jan 2021 #58
Pardons can be given to people who have not charged with crimes. former9thward Jan 2021 #63
So is this being used as a carrot? bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #59
And Mo Brooks incited at the rally. ancianita Jan 2021 #60
Good, look the other way until Garland gets there relayerbob Jan 2021 #61
"... Trump is not expected to be criminally charged...." area51 Jan 2021 #64
What about Rudy? Garibaldista Jan 2021 #65

Light63

(238 posts)
40. SSSHHH
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 05:33 PM
Jan 2021

Just let it slide for now until 01/20/2021.

Then the new DOJ Attorney General goes after Trump, hard!

christx30

(6,241 posts)
42. He can still be charged after being convicted in the senate.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 05:36 PM
Jan 2021

I just question if we’d get the 2/3 for conviction. I don’t know if any of the jelly-spined republicans would risk their jobs to vote against him.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
43. He can still be charged after being convicted in the senate.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 05:37 PM
Jan 2021

I just question if we’d get the 2/3 for conviction. I don’t know if any of the jelly-spined republicans would risk their jobs to vote against him.

Marthe48

(19,124 posts)
46. If any r's are worried about trump's base
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 05:58 PM
Jan 2021

half will be in jail and the rest incapacitated or worse by Covid-19. Base numbers going down hard and fast.

COL Mustard

(6,916 posts)
50. And He Can Be Impeached After He's Left Office
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 06:39 PM
Jan 2021

Bar him from holding any other Federal office, ever.

elleng

(136,417 posts)
12. They're doing an IMMEDIATE job,
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 03:01 PM
Jan 2021

rushing through what they can accomplish now, not handicapping themselves/their office down the road, and preserving options for the next administration.

ananda

(30,852 posts)
6. Then let Merrick Garland's DOJ take care of it.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:56 PM
Jan 2021

Trump needs to go down for criminality and treason.

UpInArms

(51,841 posts)
7. Hmmm ... in 12 days the Justice Department will have a different attitude
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:56 PM
Jan 2021

Am not certain this source is reading the tea leaves correctly.

Lock him up.

(7,556 posts)
62. He said "at this point" due to their damn memo (to not "charge" the POS) nt
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 08:56 PM
Jan 2021
When it pardons itself and its corrupt family: Must be challenged in Court after the next 12 days (or less).

Eugene

(62,700 posts)
8. I'll believe that more readily once Jeff Rosen leaves the building.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 02:58 PM
Jan 2021

If this was BLM or Antifa, the leaders would already be targeted.

musclecar6

(1,884 posts)
13. I agree
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 03:02 PM
Jan 2021


That maybe there’s no case for charges, BUT when Merrick Garland takes over, he will make that decision, not the remnants of the Justice dept left from Trump’s mismanagement.

madaboutharry

(41,374 posts)
14. The comment from a DOJ official has no bearing on what happens.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 03:03 PM
Jan 2021

In 12 days Merrick Garland will be the Attorney General.

bucolic_frolic

(47,172 posts)
17. That sounds official, but I doubt it's final
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 03:15 PM
Jan 2021

Justice is coming. There are TAPES!

If they can manufacture EMAILS! EMAILS! EMAILS! from nothing, then surely we can prosecute something from actual TAPES!

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
19. we have to wait for ACTUAL investigations and if we see the Sedition Act used
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 03:18 PM
Jan 2021

I would say if ANY communication ties WH to law enforcement to rioters, trump will face way serious charges.


If Sedition is not part of this, I am afraid our future is FUCKED as it only emboldens these people to do more and cross more lines. This is our one and only chance to eradicate a significant portion of the rightwing HATE and we gotta do it as hard and harsh as possible

bucolic_frolic

(47,172 posts)
21. Trump's speech is all the proof they need
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 03:25 PM
Jan 2021

It won't be viewed as a political prosecution. But finding an unbiased jury. Good luck. Maybe they could prosecute and settle for reparations of the damages he allegedly caused by his words and actions.

canuckledragger

(1,949 posts)
23. But inciting a riot is exactly what he fucking did!
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 03:30 PM
Jan 2021

These guys are afraid of the dominoes falling towards them if they actually told the truth.

Grins

(7,914 posts)
32. Point: "AT THIS POINT...focused solely on criminal acts at the Capitol building."
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 04:16 PM
Jan 2021

Translation: More to come.

modrepub

(3,629 posts)
33. It's Too Early To Draw That Conclusion
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 04:21 PM
Jan 2021

The truth will come out in the coming weeks and months. There's way too many people involved for them to be quiet for long.

Bengus81

(7,398 posts)
47. The person who plans a bank robbery is guility too.....
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 06:03 PM
Jan 2021

Even if he doesn't go inside.



FUCK YOU TRUMP..........

Marthe48

(19,124 posts)
49. I worked in public
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 06:15 PM
Jan 2021

I learned a long time ago that even if i think I'm not important, if I'm in a position of authority, somebody is going to listen to me, even if I say something I didn't think through.

Like National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation when Clark says what he'd like to do to his new boss, and Eddie goes out and kidnaps the boss and brings him back to the house. Tied up and topped with a bow.

The image of a traitor flag in The Capitol Building, the image of a trump supporter tearing the American flag down and putting a trump flag in its place are both horrific actions. The mob are traitors and they proved it beyond doubt. The mob will pay for their acts, but trump, the inciter, doesn't have to answer for his part? Really?

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marieo1

(1,402 posts)
56. Arrest all of them!!!
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 07:30 PM
Jan 2021

What is wrong with the Department of Justice? So, it's okay to attack our countries White House, ransack it, break furniture and fixtures, threaten employees so they have to hide, etc.? If the Justice Department don't call invading the White House like they have done a criminal act then what the Hell is? Is the Justice Dept all appointed by DJT? Why don't someone show some spine and arrest the perpetrators including DJT. I have never been so disgusted. How come we have let one man have so much power?

Scruffy1

(3,419 posts)
58. I think this a good thing.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 07:47 PM
Jan 2021

No lawyer, but i can't see how he can pardon himself for a crime he is not charged with. I think there will be quite a few willing to rat him out once he's gone to save their own asses.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
63. Pardons can be given to people who have not charged with crimes.
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 10:09 PM
Jan 2021

Ford and Carter pardoned thousands of draft evaders, most of whom had never been charged. Ford pardoned Nixon who was never charged with anything.

area51

(12,153 posts)
64. "... Trump is not expected to be criminally charged...."
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 10:13 PM
Jan 2021

Of course not. #DementiaDonnie skates again.

Garibaldista

(17 posts)
65. What about Rudy?
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 04:59 AM
Jan 2021

Did not Giuliani call for "trial by combat"? He has none of the trappings of presidential immunity, however Constitutional such immunity may or may not be, thus indictment could proceed unhindered.

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