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sabra

(30,406 posts)
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 04:28 PM Jan 2021

Federal prosecutor doesn't rule out charging Trump for inciting Capitol riot

Source: CNBC

The top federal prosecutor in Washington, D.C., on Thursday pointedly did not rule out charging President Donald Trump in connection with inciting a riot where his supporters invaded the U.S. Capitol complex a day earlier.

This is breaking news. Please check back for updates.



Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/07/federal-prosecutor-doesnt-rule-out-prosecuting-trump-for-inciting-capitol-riot.html

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Federal prosecutor doesn't rule out charging Trump for inciting Capitol riot (Original Post) sabra Jan 2021 OP
He'll pardon himself (or try) just before he waddles to the departing helicopter on 1/20. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #1
He'd be 100% smarter to resign conditioned on Pence pardoning him Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2021 #10
He can no longer count on Pence doing him any favors. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #11
I've read Inhofe's account that Pence is furious Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2021 #12
Would a federal pardon get Trump off the hook for a D.C. criminal charge? thesquanderer Jan 2021 #13
DC is a federal enclave, but not all crimes committed in DC are federal crimes. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #14
Charging him would test two untested theories. Lonestarblue Jan 2021 #2
That alone makes it worthwhile. BlueIdaho Jan 2021 #5
Absolutely! If it's delayed... Duppers Jan 2021 #6
There have never been court rulings on these issues. BlueIdaho Jan 2021 #7
Yes, indeed! Thank you. Another thing about a delay is... Duppers Jan 2021 #8
Say nothing until January 21. dalton99a Jan 2021 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Jan 2021 #9
If he's squeemish, Bayard Jan 2021 #4
Lock him up!!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2021 #15
Don't forget Rudi and Junior world wide wally Jan 2021 #16
Charge him $200,000,000 to repair the Capitol... more if necessary... thecrow Jan 2021 #17

The Velveteen Ocelot

(121,125 posts)
1. He'll pardon himself (or try) just before he waddles to the departing helicopter on 1/20.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 04:34 PM
Jan 2021

Then we'll see if he can really do it. I think not.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,946 posts)
10. He'd be 100% smarter to resign conditioned on Pence pardoning him
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 06:00 PM
Jan 2021

There is precedent for that. Pence could be President for a day/week/whatever. William Henry Harrison would finally be knocked off the shortest tenure platform.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,946 posts)
12. I've read Inhofe's account that Pence is furious
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 06:07 PM
Jan 2021

...and I get that Trump feels betrayed. I think others would talk Pence into it "for the good of the country."

thesquanderer

(12,364 posts)
13. Would a federal pardon get Trump off the hook for a D.C. criminal charge?
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 07:29 PM
Jan 2021

We know that pardon's don't affect state charges. D.C. is not a state, but it does have its own local government... I'm guessing a pardon would not help him there, I don't think D.C. charges count as federal charges, do they?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(121,125 posts)
14. DC is a federal enclave, but not all crimes committed in DC are federal crimes.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 07:34 PM
Jan 2021

DC has its own criminal code; those crimes are not covered by federal statutes. So presumably a violation of a DC criminal statute would not be pardonable.

Lonestarblue

(11,862 posts)
2. Charging him would test two untested theories.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 04:42 PM
Jan 2021

One is the Justice Department opinion that a sitting president cannot be indicted. And the second is the ability of a president to pardon himself for all crimes committed in office.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
5. That alone makes it worthwhile.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 04:50 PM
Jan 2021

It’s about time we destroyed those two canards with judicial rulings.

Duppers

(28,249 posts)
6. Absolutely! If it's delayed...
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 05:20 PM
Jan 2021

His minions will just blame Biden/Biden's administration.

Problem, however, is would we get those rulings changed at this time? That's definitely not ensured, is it?

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
7. There have never been court rulings on these issues.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 05:31 PM
Jan 2021

The DOJ simply took these positions and refused prosecute. That then became, not a policy but a practice. It’s always dicey to take a case to court - but I think it’s worth the risk to affirm that no one is above the law and that self pardons are unconstitutional.

Duppers

(28,249 posts)
8. Yes, indeed! Thank you. Another thing about a delay is...
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 05:50 PM
Jan 2021
That tRump will be trying to incite even more violence in the next 13 days - especially to interfere with Biden's inauguration.


Response to dalton99a (Reply #3)

thecrow

(5,520 posts)
17. Charge him $200,000,000 to repair the Capitol... more if necessary...
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 08:25 PM
Jan 2021

I hear he’s got it in the bank. Grifted from his treasonous minions.
Taxpayers should not have to pay for this mess. Strip him of his “campaign funds”.

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