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sabra

(30,406 posts)
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 07:14 PM Dec 2020

Trump Pardons Two Russia Inquiry Figures and Blackwater Guards

Source: NYTimes

In an audacious pre-Christmas round of pardons, President Trump granted clemency on Tuesday to two people convicted in the special counsel's Russia inquiry, four Blackwater guards convicted in connection with the killing of Iraqi civilians and three corrupt former Republican members of Congress.

Among those pardoned was George Papadopoulos, who was a foreign policy adviser to Mr. Trump's 2016 campaign and pleaded guilty in 2017 to making false statements to federal officials as part of the investigation by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III.

Also pardoned was Alex van der Zwaan, a lawyer who pleaded guilty to the same charge in 2018 in connection of the special counsel's inquiry. Both men served short prison sentences.

The Mueller-related pardons are a signal of more to come of people caught up in the investigation, according to people close to the president.



Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/us/politics/trump-pardons.html






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Trump Pardons Two Russia Inquiry Figures and Blackwater Guards (Original Post) sabra Dec 2020 OP
No surprise. This (and more) is/was expected. The pardon-o-mat will be turned up to 'Lucy' speed now PSPS Dec 2020 #1
A criminal pardons other criminals, but of course!!! winstars Dec 2020 #2
"Professional courtesy........" MyOwnPeace Dec 2020 #3
"I pardon you." spike jones Dec 2020 #4
And it begins bluestarone Dec 2020 #5
But George Papadopoulos was just a "coffee boy." Did he spill the coffee? DemoTex Dec 2020 #6
trump was afraid he'd spill the (coffee) beans. George II Dec 2020 #11
Those Blackwater murderers... no normal human could condone that level of outrageous behavior. Karadeniz Dec 2020 #7
Message to PMC's -- private military companies -- the evil militarization through NDAA's has wrought ancianita Dec 2020 #10
And Eric Prince so generously offered to organize a mercenary army to replace our military in Karadeniz Dec 2020 #13
Indeed. There are many more Erik Princes out there who run private militaries. They are ancianita Dec 2020 #14
In the long run, Trump will be gone and it will be: 'America condones war crimes'. keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #8
Thank you, Republican Senate, for contributing to lawlessness bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #9
When crime becomes the standard, rule of law gets labeled domestic terrorism. ancianita Dec 2020 #12
Kick .. Stuart G Dec 2020 #15
Imagine if this young man was your son and murdered by the 4 "guards" that trump pardoned iluvtennis Dec 2020 #16
And a partridge in a pear tree Skeptical Thomas Dec 2020 #17
"Blackwater Guards", bka blackguards. nt eppur_se_muova Dec 2020 #18
Four muderers pardoned. Trump will never be GOP nominee again. oasis Dec 2020 #19
Maybe... Then again, seeing what the GOP is turning into... ck4829 Dec 2020 #21
Corruption. You will hear from those same pos down the road rockfordfile Dec 2020 #20
"... 88 percent aided someone with a personal tie to the president or furthered his political aims." mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2020 #22

PSPS

(14,250 posts)
1. No surprise. This (and more) is/was expected. The pardon-o-mat will be turned up to 'Lucy' speed now
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 07:16 PM
Dec 2020

Karadeniz

(23,670 posts)
7. Those Blackwater murderers... no normal human could condone that level of outrageous behavior.
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:18 PM
Dec 2020

ancianita

(39,182 posts)
10. Message to PMC's -- private military companies -- the evil militarization through NDAA's has wrought
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:37 PM
Dec 2020

Karadeniz

(23,670 posts)
13. And Eric Prince so generously offered to organize a mercenary army to replace our military in
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 09:56 PM
Dec 2020

Afghanistan. I'm sure he wouldn't have made a fortune out of it. But the thing that appalled me was remembering how his "security" in Iraq had murdered their people. Right after Trump was in the White House, there was a report that Eric Prince had gone there to discuss his and Trump's establishing a covert intelligence system. Then, that news evaporated like Trump's computer hook up to Alfa Bank.

ancianita

(39,182 posts)
14. Indeed. There are many more Erik Princes out there who run private militaries. They are
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 10:00 PM
Dec 2020

well funded and equipped, and now the nuclear codes have to be changed every time a fascist Republican leaves the White House.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
8. In the long run, Trump will be gone and it will be: 'America condones war crimes'.
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:20 PM
Dec 2020

In the long run, Trump will be gone and it will be: 'America condones war crimes'.

Whenever America brings up enemy war crimes, they will have a ready-made response.

The Trump legacy.

Donald has given them a strong propaganda tool.

bucolic_frolic

(48,138 posts)
9. Thank you, Republican Senate, for contributing to lawlessness
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:37 PM
Dec 2020

Crime pays. Or at least it paid off for them.

ancianita

(39,182 posts)
12. When crime becomes the standard, rule of law gets labeled domestic terrorism.
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:40 PM
Dec 2020

Crime pays and Dems get stuck with the clean up bills than blamed for raising the debt.

There's more than one strategy at work with Republicans' owners.

iluvtennis

(20,996 posts)
16. Imagine if this young man was your son and murdered by the 4 "guards" that trump pardoned
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 10:43 PM
Dec 2020
Qasim Rashid, Esq.@QasimRashid·7m
Imagine if Ali was your son, brutally murdered along with at least 14 other innocent civilians—and Trump pardoned his killers.

That’s what Ali’s family is going through right now. God give them strength.





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what trump did was this pardon is DISGUSTING. he did it for a pay off from Betsy Devos and Erik Prince
 

Skeptical Thomas

(82 posts)
17. And a partridge in a pear tree
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 10:44 PM
Dec 2020

A dead one, of course, having been shot by a God-Fearing, Flag-Waving, morbidly obese Amurikun exercising his Second Amendment rights!

(belch)

oasis

(51,889 posts)
19. Four muderers pardoned. Trump will never be GOP nominee again.
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 11:54 PM
Dec 2020

That's for damn sure.

ck4829

(36,451 posts)
21. Maybe... Then again, seeing what the GOP is turning into...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:48 AM
Dec 2020

They'll probably be asking "Were the PARDONED murderers... white? Socialist? Democrats?"

Good lord, they'll probably be demanding potential nominees ritually sacrifice "one of the poors" to thwart the "left-wing demons" to prove their conviction to the cause by 2024 rolls around.

mahatmakanejeeves

(62,297 posts)
22. "... 88 percent aided someone with a personal tie to the president or furthered his political aims."
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 07:48 AM
Dec 2020
RubiconHat Retweeted

"A tabulation by the Harvard Law School professor Jack Goldsmith found that of the 45 pardons or commutations Mr. Trump had granted up until Tuesday, 88 percent aided someone with a personal tie to the president or furthered his political aims.”


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