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Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:48 PM

Mike Kelly, Sean Parnell Request To Declare Mail-In Voting Unconstitutional In Pennsylvania, Deny Re

Source: cbslocal.com





Mike Kelly, Sean Parnell Request To Declare Mail-In Voting Unconstitutional In Pennsylvania, Deny Results From 2020 Election Mail-In Ballots
They are calling upon the Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania to rule against "universal" mail-in ballot provisions.



November 21, 2020 at 3:39 pm


HARRISBURG (KDKA) — Congressman Mike Kelly and congressional candidate Sean Parnell are requesting the Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania to declare universal mail-in voting unconstitutional in the state and deny the votes of the majority of Pennsylvanians who voted by mail in the Nov. 3 election.


In the official request, the plaintiffs specifically cite issue with Act 77 and its “universal mail-in ballot provisions.”

They allege that the provisions that allow all qualified electors to vote by mail in Pennsylvania are unconstitutional.

As such, they are calling for mail-in ballots that they allege do not meet “Constitutional requirements” to not be certified and for only “legal votes” to be certified or for the Pennsylvania General Assembly to choose the electors and compensate the legal costs of the plaintiffs.

Both Kelly and Parnell are registered Republicans.

Read more: https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/11/21/mail-in-voting-legal-challenge-pennsylvania/



I would think Republicans in congress would be embarrassed by now. But I guess not. They just let the idiot Trump make fools of themselves--and the Republicans!! Insane







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Reply Mike Kelly, Sean Parnell Request To Declare Mail-In Voting Unconstitutional In Pennsylvania, Deny Re (Original post)
riversedge Saturday OP
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Saturday #1
RealityCheque Saturday #2
Kablooie Saturday #18
Roy Rolling Sunday #34
dchill Saturday #4
Rebl2 Saturday #17
IthinkThereforeIAM Saturday #22
ailsagirl Sunday #24
Rebl2 Sunday #36
Marthe48 Saturday #3
Cha Saturday #5
Ohiogal Saturday #8
rainin Saturday #6
muriel_volestrangler Saturday #7
LeftInTX Saturday #9
muriel_volestrangler Saturday #10
BumRushDaShow Saturday #21
DeminPennswoods Sunday #28
BumRushDaShow Sunday #29
DeminPennswoods Sunday #41
BumRushDaShow Sunday #42
DeminPennswoods Sunday #43
BumRushDaShow Sunday #44
DeminPennswoods Sunday #45
BumRushDaShow Sunday #46
lonely bird Sunday #39
BumRushDaShow Sunday #40
Raven123 Saturday #11
ancianita Saturday #12
rickyhall Saturday #13
Raven123 Saturday #14
LeftInTX Sunday #23
BumRushDaShow Sunday #30
Raven123 Sunday #35
BumRushDaShow Sunday #37
DeminPennswoods Monday #50
BumRushDaShow Monday #51
Happy Hoosier Sunday #47
TomDaisy Saturday #15
yourmovemonkey Saturday #19
Kablooie Saturday #16
rso Saturday #20
KY_EnviroGuy Sunday #25
usajumpedtheshark Sunday #26
Rhiannon12866 Sunday #27
BumRushDaShow Sunday #31
Rhiannon12866 Sunday #32
BumRushDaShow Sunday #33
beachbumbob Sunday #38
jmowreader Sunday #48
DeminPennswoods Monday #49

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:49 PM

1. Republicans no longer believe in democracy

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:53 PM

2. The new RNC...

Reckless
Negligent
Cowards

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Response to RealityCheque (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 09:48 PM

18. Really Need a Coup

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:59 AM

34. No thanks

We already have one. Fortunately, it may be only a Coup of Dunces.

Next time it’ll be worse if we don’t make changes to the holes in our democracy that depend on honor and truthfulness to substitute for the rule of law. Trump has proven the risks of depending on tyrants to be self-regulating.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:54 PM

4. I'm not sure I remember when they did.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 09:48 PM

17. They haven't for

30 years🤬

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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #17)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:46 PM

22. The Advent of Gingerich...


... businessman first, statesman last. Got real bad after Clinton was elected in 1992.

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Response to IthinkThereforeIAM (Reply #22)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 01:11 AM

24. Gingrich started the republican revolution that led us where we are today

Bastard!!!!!!!!!

Of course, he had plenty of help

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Response to ailsagirl (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 06:40 AM

36. That is

absolutely correct. He is the one who started it all and he is still at it today.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:54 PM

3. do they even stop to see what they are doing?

They are trying to deny a majority of legal votes. To protect somebody who has killed over 260,427 Americans. I could puke.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:58 PM

5. RT KR.. mike kelly seems like a

stupid fuck.

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Response to Cha (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:17 PM

8. His district is right across the state line from me

He is a total Trump ass kissing douche

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:03 PM

6. Will the time EVER come when I can stop being afraid?

This is all terrifying. I hear what they're trying and I don't know the chances of success. It seems like we have to win 100% of the time and they only have to win once for the whole thing to fall like dominos. I need to hear Bob Bauer daily for reassurance. I need him to tell me it's going to be ok.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:09 PM

7. Kelly says Act 77 is unconstitutional; 4 months ago, he sued 'coz he said it wasn't being followed

IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE WESTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA
DONALD J. TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT,
INC.; GLENN THOMPSON; MIKE KELLY; ...
v.
KATHY BOOCKVAR, in her capacity as
Secretary of the Commonwealth of
Pennsylvania ...

All of this was on full display in Pennsylvania’s June 2, 2020 Primary Election.
That election proved that Defendants are unwilling to properly administer the Pennsylvania
General Assembly’s new mail-in voting law, Act 77, that made significant changes to
Pennsylvania’s elections, and instead have opted to promote unlimited use of unmonitored mailin voting.

https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/2020-07/Plaintiffs%27%20Amended%20Complaint.pdf

Kelly and the Trumpistas lost: https://casetext.com/case/donald-j-trump-for-president-inc-v-boockvar-3

And if all but 1 GOP representative voted for Act 77, does that mean Kelly did?

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:26 PM

9. They're filing in a different venue: State Court

They tried that in Texas over modifications for COVID. The all Republican Texas Supreme Court dismissed the case.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:28 PM

10. So he thinks filing in a different court would make reversing his claims credible?

Anything's possible with Republicans, I suppose ...

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:38 PM

21. Kelly is a Congressman

not even a state Rep.

From our state Attorney General -




TEXT

Josh Shapiro
@JoshShapiroPA
The candidates + elected officials who joined this suit should be ashamed of themselves. They’re asking a court to throw out the votes of 2.5 million Pennsylvanians.

It’s another weak attempt to subvert the will of the people. Desperate, hypocritical, baseless... I could go on.
Brad Heath
@bradheath
Meanwhile, some Pennsylvania Republicans led by Rep. @MikeKellyPA are asking a state court to declare that the state's entire vote-by-mail system, violates the state constitution and that millions of votes cast this year must now be invalidated.
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5:41 PM · Nov 21, 2020


And Lt. Governor -




TEXT

John Fetterman
@JohnFetterman
·
Nov 21, 2020
Replying to @JohnFetterman
If PA doesn’t certify our Election results, after November 30th, we technically don’t have a State House of Representatives and 1/2 a state senate.

Which are controlled by Republicans.
😆
GIF

John Fetterman
@JohnFetterman
Straight up amateur hour.

The only team with a history of losing this much is the Cincinnati Bengals.
1:59 PM · Nov 21, 2020 from Pittsburgh, PA




And delaying/invalidating ballots also invalidates the votes for the whole down-ballot ticket, including the entire PA state House (GOP-controlled), 1/2 the PA state Senate (GOP-controlled), and all 18 members of the Congressional delegation (9 (R) - 9 (D)).

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #21)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 04:41 AM

28. A new nickname for PA Rs - "Da Bungles"

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #28)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 04:46 AM

29. Or a variation - "Da Bunglers"



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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #29)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 12:03 PM

41. "Bungles" is the nickname bestowed on

the Cincinnati Bengals by the legendary Pittsburgh broadcaster and sports writer, Myron Cope. Cleveland was the "Cleve Brownies" or collapsed into "Cl-owns". Balt is the "ratbirds". Steelers, to other AFCN teams, are the "Squealers".

It's the same in Philly with "the Cowgirls" and so on.

Then there's Cope famous xmas carol "Deck the Broncos, they're just yonkos, fa lalala, lala, lala".

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #41)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 12:06 PM

42. I can imagine what the Iggles were called

Oh wait...

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #42)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 12:07 PM

43. Filthydelphia

to many western Pennsylvanians.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #43)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 12:09 PM

44. Not just there!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #44)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 12:12 PM

45. The litterbugs in Phila drove me nuts

People just throwing trash on the ground even if there was trash can nearby or it was something small you could wad up and put in a pocket to toss when you got home. I never failed to be astounded by this behavior because it's not the way I was taught.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #45)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 12:17 PM

46. Yup

Tossed paper pizza plates, plastic take-out bags, and all manner of stuff out of car windows... But then there were and still are the "dumpers" who unload pickup trucks full of construction and home renovation crap into empty lots. They have put up surveillance cameras to finally start catching these idiots.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #21)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 08:21 AM

39. Hey, I resent that

My Browns went 1-31 not that long ago.

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Response to lonely bird (Reply #39)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 08:32 AM

40. Need I even mention the Iggles?



Question: How can someone be in first place with a record of 3-5-1?
Answer: Be a member of the NFC East!!!



(Eagles will probably lose to the once-downtrodden now HOT Cleveland Browns )

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:33 PM

11. Sounds like election fraud to pass a law that you believe is constitutional and then

Wait until after the election to tell those who voted under its provisions. Given it had overwhelming GOP support, the stench is overwhelming.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:49 PM

12. On one end, Repub leaders want to get rid of mail in; on the other, Repub voters want to get rid of

Dominion. It's almost as if they're working on ridding themselves of all voters, covid and Constitution be damned.

Bottom line for us, we need to call what they all do the clever-by-half maneuverings of bad losers.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 09:01 PM

13. All of them seditious traitors and criminals. I would deport them all a Antarctica or another planet

Just sayin. They don't deserve the company of real human beings.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 09:13 PM

14. Can the judge agree to look at the Constitutional question at some point in the future?

Since the law was written with a provision that constitutional questions should be brought up in 6 months of it’s passage, and no one was in a hurry, what would be the big deal? No harm to wait as the only voter disenfranchisement would occur if the the law were indeed declared unconstitutional. No one’s rights are at issue by leaving addressing this on a more relaxed schedule.

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Response to Raven123 (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 12:52 AM

23. The GOP sued in Texas over COVID expansion of early voting via executive orders by the governor

They claimed it was a violation of the Texas constitution.

The state supreme court dismissed the case.

This was BEFORE the election.


There is no way a state supreme court will go along with this.

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Response to Raven123 (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:02 AM

30. No. This is what the state law says

those arguments needed to be made within 6 months after passage.
The relevant election law was called "Act 77". I had posted this in another thread -

PENNSYLVANIA ELECTION CODE - OMNIBUS AMENDMENTS
Act of Oct. 31, 2019, P.L. 552, No. 77 Cl. 25

Session of 2019
No. 2019-77
SB 421

AN ACT

(snip)

Section 12. Repeals are as follows:

(snip)

(2) The Pennsylvania Supreme Court has exclusive jurisdiction to hear a challenge to or to render a declaratory judgment concerning the constitutionality of a provision referred to in paragraph (1). The Supreme Court may take action it deems appropriate, consistent with the Supreme Court retaining jurisdiction over the matter, to find facts or to expedite a final judgment in connection with such a challenge or request for declaratory relief.

(3) An action under paragraph (2) must be commenced within 180 days of the effective date of this section.


Section 14. This act shall apply to elections held on or after April 28, 2020.

Section 15. This act shall take effect as follows:

(1) The addition of section 207 of the act shall take effect in 180 days.

(2) The amendment of section 908 of the act shall take effect in 60 days.

(3) The remainder of this act shall take effect immediately.



APPROVED--The 31st day of October, A.D. 2019.



TOM WOLF


They had until this past April to do this and didn't. They would need to repeal or alter the law at this point and with a Democratic governor, that would mean a certain veto that they would be unable to override.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #30)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 06:33 AM

35. I saw that. I read a comment suggesting that if the law was unconstitutional...

... that provision would be irrelevant. The question is interesting. My comment basically suggests that no one was harmed by the law, regardless of whether it is constitutional, which is the basis for most challenges. Even if the absentee voters, voted in person, there no reason to believe they would have voted differently.


I for one am getting a real education in law this year! Thanks for responding

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Response to Raven123 (Reply #35)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 06:56 AM

37. Why would it be irrelevent?

This suit would be referencing the law's relationship to the PA state Constitution, not the U.S. Constitution (a dispute of which would need to be filed in federal court, their previous attempts of which have been thrown out over and over and over in that venue ).

In this case, what the law does is take the existing election code that permitted "absentee ballots" (which have been around for many many decades) and creates a version of the "absentee ballot" process that removes the required allowable reasons to vote absentee, which then makes these ballots a "no-excuse absentee ballot".

I.e., the use of an absentee ballot requires specific permitted reasons for not being able to vote at the designated polling place on election day (e.g., "out of town on that day", "incapacitated", etc.). With the expansion of "absentee ballots" to a model no longer needing an excuse (although still retaining the original absentee ballot process), then what reason would be valid that would not throw out the whole absentee ballot process used for critical people including our military serving overseas?

And given there have been no challenges over many decades (that I am aware of) to the original absentee ballot process, then what makes this different?

What is in place in PA is different from what other states have implemented - including next door neighbor state New Jersey, where the state automatically sends out "mail ballots" to every registered voter. Here in PA, you have to explicitly apply for a "no-excuse absentee ballot" (the technical name for it), and then when approved, you are given the option to continue that method for any remaining elections for that year only. The following year if you want to vote in that manner, you have to re-apply for a "no-excuse absentee ballot", otherwise you would need to show up at your designated polling location if you plan to vote and don't apply for a regular absentee ballot (with an excuse).

And as a sidenote - both KY and UT, ruby red states, have this type of ballot and used them for their elections. Why aren't those being challenged in court by their campaign?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #37)

Mon Nov 23, 2020, 04:27 AM

50. Isn't one the PA state constitutional tests

that the law has to treat everyone the same? IIRC, that's the reason we've been unable to move away from a flat income tax to a graduated one.

Under that logic, I'd think the expansion of absentee voting clearly would meet that "equal treatment" criteria. Plus we used the new system in the primary, which was also held during the current epidemic, and no one complained about it.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #50)

Mon Nov 23, 2020, 04:46 AM

51. When I read the judge's decision

that was basically the gist. The judge indicated that the thrust should be for more voting rather than less and that the plaintiff didn't show that the fault of the allegations was that of the SOS, as the offer was made to all counties.

I read an analysis yesterday (I think in the Inquirer) that IIRC indicated that there were 4 red counties in PA where a majority of mail-in ballots were for 45 (have to find the article again), so it wasn't like the option wasn't available to all and that GOP voters were somehow unable to use the option.

The arguments the "voters" who were part of the suit made, was that their counties didn't avail them of the ability to cure, but that's not Boockvar's fault (I think one of the counties in the suit was Lancaster).

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Response to Raven123 (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 12:32 PM

47. I think the case gets tossed

I doubt either man can demonstrate standing and there is no way a court tosses out 2.5 million votes as redress even if they could. The time to file a suit about the 2020 elections is months ago. No court is going to disenfranchise voters on that scale.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 09:26 PM

15. but several states, like OR, WA, CO, use 100% mail-in voting

how can it be Constitutional in one state but not another?

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Response to TomDaisy (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 09:56 PM

19. Each state has its own state Constitution

Since the process of elections are delegated to each individual state, most legal questions regarding elections would be decided based on that particular state's laws.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 09:47 PM

16. Workin' overtime to prove they support an overthrow of the US government.

Throwing all their eggs into the coup basket.

I sure hope this comes back to sting him like a murder hornet.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:21 PM

20. Mike Kelly

They are doing this in State Court, so even in the extremely unlikely event that the State Judge rules in favor of Don the Con, the eventual appeal would be heard before the 5-2 Democratic Pennsylvania Supreme Court.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 01:41 AM

25. Publicity stunt for the red-meat PA base.

Besides, if they thought it was unconstitutional, why didn't they bring suit well before the election?

I'm sure this will make lots of noise on Faux News and right-wing talk radio, just as they wish.


KY........

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 02:08 AM

26. So trump's new strategy is to republicans from the state he is targeting to file the suits for him

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 02:19 AM

27. Deployed military has always used mail in voting and those out-of-state in election day

I voted absentee the entire time I was in college and when I worked on my congressman's campaign, I told parents how to request absentee ballots for heir kids who were college students. And hasn't Trump voted absentee?

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #27)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:13 AM

31. Even the astronauts on the ISS vote "absentee"




TEXT

NASA Astronauts
@NASA_Astronauts
From the International Space Station: I voted today

— Kate Rubins
Image
4:30 PM · Oct 22, 2020


I know the 4 years I was away at college I voted absentee and my mom would tell me that when she went to vote at our polling place, the poll workers (who usually know the regulars who vote every election) would tell her that yes indeed, they got my absentee ballot (since they are sent in well before the election and handed over to the Division to register and eventually process on or after election day).

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #31)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:28 AM

32. Excellent point!

I remember seeing them on the news! And when I was in college, my mother made sure that I got an absentee ballot - and we got calls from other parents at campaign headquarters when I worked for my congressman so I gave instructions to them. I must have voted absentee before I ever voted in person because I was away at school before I was even 18 - unless you count the times when I was really little and went into the voting booth with my father, he'd pick me up and tell me which levers to push, though I have no idea who I voted for...

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #32)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:52 AM

33. I miss the lever machines!

They were tanks!!

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:24 AM

38. this is so laughable it goes beyond crazy and of course will be tossed out of court

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 01:11 PM

48. We're at the point where sanctions are in order

The first lawsuit questioning the validity of the election? Irritating, but everyone has the right to be heard. After the courts found the election to be acceptably clean, that should have been the end of it. Do like Jimmy Carter and George HW Bush did and start planning your post-presidency life. (In the case of this president, that involves ordering a copy of the book “How to Survive Federal Prison.”)

Trump’s minions have filed so many baseless suits we’re now somewhere between “harassing” and “malicious.” Fines are now in order, if not jail time for contempt of court.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2020, 12:02 AM

49. Apparently this new lawsuit was incorrectly filed

The court gave Kelly, Parnell et al until Monday morning to re-file their case.

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