Fri Nov 13, 2020, 02:20 PM

As Soon as Trump Leaves Office, He Faces Greater Risk of Prosecution

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Source: NYT

The president is more vulnerable than ever to an investigation into his business practices and taxes.

President Trump lost more than an election last week. When he leaves the White House in January, he will also lose the constitutional protection from prosecution afforded to a sitting president.

After Jan. 20, Mr. Trump, who has refused to concede and is fighting to hold onto his office, will be more vulnerable than ever to a pending grand jury investigation by the Manhattan district attorney into the president’s family business and its practices, as well as his taxes.

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Ms. James, in response to criticism from Mr. Trump last year, tweeted that her office “will follow the facts of any case, wherever they lead.” She added: “Make no mistake: No one is above the law, not even the President.”

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/13/nyregion/trump-taxes.html

Well, la dee dah

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As Soon as Trump Leaves Office, He Faces Greater Risk of Prosecution (Original post)	BlueWavePsych	Nov 13	OP
I just hope they immediatly freze all his assets	captain queeg	Nov 13	#1
That would be pretty remarkable.	BComplex	Nov 13	#5
Throw every damn one of them in jail if they are accomplices.	olegramps	Nov 13	#12
deutsche bank said it may seize his assets if he can't pay his debts	onetexan	Nov 13	#13
Great news.	CentralMass	Nov 13	#2
I live for his perp walk. n/t	Hela	Nov 13	#3
The clock is ticking like the intro for "60 Minutes."	Harker	Nov 13	#4
That's why he...	Wuddles440	Nov 13	#6
that's why he's clawing so hard at the coffin lid....	Javaman	Nov 13	#7
He will leave the White House (before the inauguration, at a time unknown) and go directly	not_the_one	Nov 13	#8
Russia is more likely especially if Trump and his family are able to do a Snowden and provide	cstanleytech	Nov 13	#15
just invalidate his passport	noneof_theabove	Nov 13	#17
For those w/out NYTimes sub, here is a reprint	apnu	Nov 13	#9
The Presidential pardon power. Its still seems muddled	LiberalLovinLug	Nov 13	#10
No. The Con can't pardon himself	onetexan	Nov 13	#14
Do you know if he would be legally allowed to run for office again?	BigmanPigman	Nov 13	#16
Legally, he can run. 2 term limit, but they don't have to be consecutive. nt	Progressive Jones	Nov 13	#19
To see him in prison is my most ardent desire. I hate the bastard.	olegramps	Nov 13	#11
Maybe The Daily Stormer will publish his autobiography...	Buckeye_Democrat	Nov 13	#18
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING	Omaha Steve	Nov 13	#20

Response to BlueWavePsych (Original post)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 02:22 PM

captain queeg (5,244 posts)

1. I just hope they immediatly freze all his assets

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Response to captain queeg (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 02:41 PM

BComplex (4,872 posts)

5. That would be pretty remarkable.

His wife would leave, the kids would leave....it would be a riot.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 05:08 PM

olegramps (7,938 posts)

12. Throw every damn one of them in jail if they are accomplices.

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Response to captain queeg (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 05:40 PM

onetexan (8,693 posts)

13. deutsche bank said it may seize his assets if he can't pay his debts

i hope that is the case - the ultimate humiliation

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Response to BlueWavePsych (Original post)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 02:22 PM

CentralMass (10,307 posts)

2. Great news.

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Response to BlueWavePsych (Original post)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 02:27 PM

Hela (184 posts)

3. I live for his perp walk. n/t

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Response to BlueWavePsych (Original post)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 02:38 PM

Harker (6,383 posts)

4. The clock is ticking like the intro for "60 Minutes."

Time can't pass quickly enough.

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Response to BlueWavePsych (Original post)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 03:00 PM

Wuddles440 (435 posts)

6. That's why he...

plans on staying in office by any means necessary.

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Response to BlueWavePsych (Original post)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 03:06 PM

Javaman (56,560 posts)

7. that's why he's clawing so hard at the coffin lid....

he still thinks he's alive. LOL

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Response to BlueWavePsych (Original post)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 03:16 PM

not_the_one (2,227 posts)

8. He will leave the White House (before the inauguration, at a time unknown) and go directly

to his private waiting plane, at the airport.

It will be done on the sly, so we will only find out after he and his spawn have landed, probably in Saudi Arabia. Yes, I know SA congratulated Biden, but they owe the turd, since he defended the dismembering murdering prince, MBS.

I know I keep beating the dead horse (my apologies to all things equine), but we MUST make sure his plane tires stay FLAT.

And I continue to opine that the ONLY show of generosity from the American people should be a gratis can of gold spray paint, for the "throne" in the corner of the cell.

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Response to not_the_one (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 06:58 PM

cstanleytech (21,886 posts)

15. Russia is more likely especially if Trump and his family are able to do a Snowden and provide

Russia with a trove of classified intel.

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Response to not_the_one (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:25 PM

noneof_theabove (404 posts)

17. just invalidate his passport

done.....

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Response to BlueWavePsych (Original post)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 03:35 PM

apnu (8,256 posts)

9. For those w/out NYTimes sub, here is a reprint

https://indianexpress.com/article/world/as-soon-as-trump-leaves-office-he-faces-greater-risk-of-prosecution-7050870/

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Response to BlueWavePsych (Original post)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 05:00 PM

LiberalLovinLug (12,137 posts)

10. The Presidential pardon power. Its still seems muddled

Can he pardon himself from any charges he was up against, but was shelved because of his position, as Barr made it. Like the obstruction of justice charges, when he refused to allow WH witnesses to honor subpoenas for the Mueller investigation?

What about any future cases he sees coming up the pike? Like the rape charge? Can he pardon from crimes not even litigated yet?

Can he actually pardon himself for any future crimes he may commit? Into perpetuity?

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 05:46 PM

onetexan (8,693 posts)

14. No. The Con can't pardon himself

"Self-pardons
The legal and constitutional ability of a president to pardon himself (self-pardon) is an unresolved issue. During the Watergate scandal, President Nixon's lawyer suggested that a self-pardon would be legal, while the Department of Justice issued a memorandum opinion on August 5, 1974, stating that a president cannot pardon himself."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_pardons_in_the_United_States#:~:text=Self%2Dpardons,-The%20legal%20and&text=During%20the%20Watergate%20scandal%2C%20President,a%20president%20cannot%20pardon%20himself.

It's wikipedia but gives citings.

So since he can't pardon himself, likewise he won't be able to pardon himself for future crimes.

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Response to onetexan (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:20 PM

BigmanPigman (40,383 posts)

16. Do you know if he would be legally allowed to run for office again?

Is that one of those norms that was never written down and should the Dem Congress consider passing a new law stating so (if we win the Senate)?

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:45 PM

Progressive Jones (3,147 posts)

19. Legally, he can run. 2 term limit, but they don't have to be consecutive. nt

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Response to BlueWavePsych (Original post)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 05:07 PM

olegramps (7,938 posts)

11. To see him in prison is my most ardent desire. I hate the bastard.

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Response to BlueWavePsych (Original post)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:38 PM

Buckeye_Democrat (10,362 posts)

18. Maybe The Daily Stormer will publish his autobiography...

... titled "My Struggle" while he's in prison?

"Co-authored" by Steve Bannon, of course.

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Response to BlueWavePsych (Original post)

Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:04 PM

Omaha Steve (77,780 posts)

20. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING

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