Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:50 AM
mahatmakanejeeves (34,555 posts)
Two senior Homeland Security officials forced out as White House firings widen
Source: Washington Post
National Two senior Homeland Security officials forced out as White House firings widen By Nick Miroff and Ellen Nakashima November 12, 2020 at 11:03 p.m. EST The White House has forced out two top Department of Homeland Security officials as part of a widening purge of anyone suspected of lacking complete loyalty to President Trump, three people familiar with the removals said Thursday. Valerie Boyd, the top official for international affairs at DHS, was asked for her resignation, as well as Bryan Ware, a senior policy aide at the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. The requests came from the White House’s Presidential Personnel Office, whose 30-year-old director, John McEntee, has recently intensified efforts to purge appointees who have failed to demonstrate sufficient fealty to the president. “They’re looking for complete loyalty, and someone with experience serving different administrations is not perceived as sufficiently loyal,” said one person who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the moves, referring to Boyd’s previous roles in the George W. Bush and Obama administrations. ... Boyd, in a resignation letter obtained by The Washington Post, wrote to DHS acting secretary Chad Wolf that she hopes government officials will “act with honor” during the transition to a new presidency. Boyd declined to comment Thursday. {snip} Ware declined to comment on the terms of his departure when reached Thursday night, saying: “I’m proud of the work that I did. I’m proud of what the agency accomplished and proud to have had the privilege to serve the country.” ... A White House spokesman declined to comment, as did CISA spokeswoman Sara Sendek. DHS did not respond to requests for comment Thursday. {snip} Joseph Marks contributed to this report. Nick Miroff Nick Miroff covers immigration enforcement and the Department of Homeland Security for The Washington Post. He was a Post foreign correspondent in Latin America from 2010 to 2017, and has been a staff writer since 2006. Follow https://twitter.com/NickMiroff Ellen Nakashima Ellen Nakashima is a two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter covering intelligence and national security matters for The Washington Post. She joined The Post in 1995 and is based in Washington, D.C. Follow https://twitter.com/nakashimae Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/dhs-officials-fired-white-house/2020/11/12/98fdf224-2554-11eb-8599-406466ad1b8e_story.html
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mahatmakanejeeves | Nov 13 | OP |
Ferrets are Cool | Nov 13 | #1 | |
AZ8theist | Nov 13 | #3 | |
PatSeg | Nov 13 | #21 | |
NurseJackie | Nov 13 | #26 | |
Ferrets are Cool | Nov 13 | #41 | |
ancianita | Nov 13 | #2 | |
csziggy | Nov 13 | #5 | |
ancianita | Nov 13 | #8 | |
csziggy | Nov 13 | #9 | |
JohnnyRingo | Nov 13 | #12 | |
ancianita | Nov 13 | #15 | |
DENVERPOPS | Nov 13 | #25 | |
ancianita | Nov 13 | #28 | |
lagomorph777 | Nov 13 | #37 | |
csziggy | Nov 13 | #42 | |
lagomorph777 | Nov 13 | #43 | |
csziggy | Nov 13 | #44 | |
AZ8theist | Nov 13 | #4 | |
PatSeg | Nov 13 | #22 | |
robbob | Nov 13 | #6 | |
benld74 | Nov 13 | #7 | |
hermetic | Nov 13 | #10 | |
mahatmakanejeeves | Nov 13 | #11 | |
bleedingulcers | Nov 13 | #13 | |
hermetic | Nov 13 | #16 | |
58Sunliner | Nov 13 | #38 | |
ancianita | Nov 13 | #14 | |
IronLionZion | Nov 13 | #17 | |
PatSeg | Nov 13 | #23 | |
Lonestarblue | Nov 13 | #31 | |
PatSeg | Nov 13 | #32 | |
ancianita | Nov 13 | #29 | |
C Moon | Nov 13 | #33 | |
llashram | Nov 13 | #18 | |
pandr32 | Nov 13 | #19 | |
Rebl2 | Nov 13 | #20 | |
WePurrsevere | Nov 13 | #24 | |
Rebl2 | Nov 13 | #46 | |
Captain Zero | Nov 13 | #30 | |
Rebl2 | Nov 13 | #45 | |
LudwigPastorius | Nov 13 | #27 | |
secondwind | Nov 13 | #34 | |
Illumination | Nov 13 | #35 | |
Midnight Writer | Nov 13 | #36 | |
58Sunliner | Nov 13 | #39 | |
58Sunliner | Nov 13 | #40 |
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 10:05 AM
Ferrets are Cool (12,609 posts)
1. Completely off topic
Have I mentioned lately how much I HATE those two words: Homeland Security?
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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #1)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 10:18 AM
AZ8theist (3,080 posts)
3. I agree. Too "Soviet" sounding....Surprised Bush didn't name it "Fatherland" Security....
Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #1)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:02 PM
PatSeg (35,922 posts)
21. Same here
A lot of fascist words and phrases came out of the Bush administration, often sounding like something out of 1984. Homeland Security was probably the worst.
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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #1)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:44 PM
NurseJackie (36,870 posts)
26. It should be "National" or "Domestic" or "American"... not "Homeland".
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #26)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 03:13 PM
Ferrets are Cool (12,609 posts)
41. Thank you!!!!
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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 10:14 AM
ancianita (21,196 posts)
2. So this makes how many firings since the election? I forgot to keep count.
Response to ancianita (Reply #2)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 10:48 AM
csziggy (31,139 posts)
5. What do we call this - the Post-Election Purge? The November Massacre? The Loser's Hissy Fit?
After all, naming Nixon's purge of special prosecutors being named the Saturday Night Massacre brought people's attention to his abuses of power and helped turn the tide against him. We need a good name for how Trump is purging our most important defense and intelligence agencies of anyone not willing to kiss his ass.
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Response to csziggy (Reply #5)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:00 AM
ancianita (21,196 posts)
8. Yep. But I want a number, an accurate count. Can't find it in any of the usual news sources.
Response to ancianita (Reply #8)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:02 AM
csziggy (31,139 posts)
9. Considering the Trump administration would have to give it
We will never know how many people have been and will be fired.
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Response to ancianita (Reply #8)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:06 AM
JohnnyRingo (15,347 posts)
12. I remember Rachel Maddow used to keep a tally.
She would announce the latest as an image of previous dismissals was used as a background. It soon became a wallpaper of small photos.
Perhaps she still keeps track or maybe it became overwhelming. |
Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #12)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:13 AM
ancianita (21,196 posts)
15. I hope she outright lists the names and posts of 45's post-election purge.
The list tells us of future priorities of the Republican Party and any new Fifth Column subversions they'll play.
I know in my heart that their goal is the Big Corp capture of this democracy and the total control of the nation's means of production -- FASCISM. Republicans are the Fascist Party of America. |
Response to csziggy (Reply #5)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:18 PM
DENVERPOPS (3,876 posts)
25. I think it's called treason
Taking down intelligence, defense, homeland security, etc etc etc sounds like a wish list from Putin.......
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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #25)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:18 PM
ancianita (21,196 posts)
28. Two great points approaching the truth of it!
Response to csziggy (Reply #5)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 02:59 PM
lagomorph777 (19,745 posts)
37. Turd's Terrible Trumper Tantrum
Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #37)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 03:14 PM
csziggy (31,139 posts)
42. Excellent! I like it!
And for the delicate minded we can substitute his given name.
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Response to csziggy (Reply #42)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 03:15 PM
lagomorph777 (19,745 posts)
43. That is his given name.
Well, it's the name I give him...
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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #43)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 03:21 PM
csziggy (31,139 posts)
44. I missed the "Trumper" part, so we're good. nt
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 10:24 AM
AZ8theist (3,080 posts)
4. All of the "deep state" folks who Doturd is firing.......
just need to hunker down for 2 months.
Not a bad idea during a raging pandemic. Joe will hire you back in January. The only assholes who are ASSURED of unemployment are the pricks who are loyal to... A FUCKING TRAITOR. |
Response to AZ8theist (Reply #4)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:06 PM
PatSeg (35,922 posts)
22. I was thinking the same thing
It would be cool if Joe's transition team was in contact with these people to reassure them that they will have a job in January.
Meanwhile, this purge is probably the most petty, vindictive thing we've seen Trump do, well at least that we know about. It sounds like Trump wants to leave a President Biden with a crippled, dysfunctional government just out of spite. |
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 10:57 AM
robbob (2,786 posts)
6. Why do they need people "completely loyal" in these sensitive positions
if they are leaving office in some 60 or so days? Why?
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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 10:58 AM
benld74 (9,098 posts)
7. ALL who told to resign, need to STAY, and tell the traitor to get bent
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:04 AM
hermetic (6,007 posts)
10. Then why is McEntee not fired?
If he’s been there for 30 years he has obviously worked for different admins. Yet someone said that anyone “with experience serving different administrations is not perceived as sufficiently loyal.” What exactly did he have to do to prove his loyalty? Hmmm, maybe I don’t want to know the answer to that.
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Response to hermetic (Reply #10)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:05 AM
mahatmakanejeeves (34,555 posts)
11. No. He's thirty years old.
John McEntee (political aide)
![]() John David McEntee II (born May 9, 1990) is an American political advisor and former athlete who serves as the Director of the White House Presidential Personnel Office in the Trump Administration. McEntee was asked to take on the role of body man and personal aide to the President shortly after Trump was elected. He was unable to obtain a security clearance and was dismissed in March 2018 amid allegations of gambling debts and financial crimes, but immediately took up a position as a senior advisor to Trump's 2020 reelection campaign. McEntee controversially returned to working in the White House, becoming the Director of the Office of Presidential Personnel in February 2020. Controversy increased when Trump assigned McEntee the task of identifying for removal political appointees and career officials who are insufficiently loyal, a task that aligns with the President's focus on acting against actual and perceived disloyalty. Prior to working in the White House Office, McEntee was the starting quarterback for the UConn Huskies football team. {snip} |
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #11)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:11 AM
bleedingulcers (40 posts)
13. His experience?
Playing college football? THIS is who's running staffing?
No wonder things are a flaming sh!tshow... |
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #11)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:18 AM
hermetic (6,007 posts)
16. Oh, oops....
![]() I read it as...well, you know. But, that did answer my question, so thanks. |
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #11)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 03:07 PM
58Sunliner (3,308 posts)
38. Only the best-shit.
"He was unable to obtain a security clearance and was dismissed in March 2018 amid allegations of gambling debts and financial crimes, but immediately took up a position as a senior advisor to Trump's 2020 reelection campaign."
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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:11 AM
ancianita (21,196 posts)
14. Trump is conducting his own "rule of men" transition/purging with one top goal: loyalty.
The transition between first and second terms is traditionally a time when presidents who win re-election accept resignations and switch out their teams.
Trump thinks this will be his new mafia rule team when he wins the election. |
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:28 AM
IronLionZion (31,989 posts)
17. What are they planning?
Biden takes office in about 10 weeks so are they planning to sow chaos in the meantime? Do as much damage as possible so the new administration is bogged down fixing it, or something more nefarious?
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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #17)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:09 PM
PatSeg (35,922 posts)
23. That's what it sounds like
Leaving a Biden administration with an unfriendly, broken government, just to be spiteful. There is no bottom to Trump's vindictiveness.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #23)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:27 PM
Lonestarblue (3,445 posts)
31. I agree. Trump will trash the government because he thinks it will hurt Biden.
But Biden has been around Washington a long time. He will have new agency heads ready to go on Day 1. He can appoint them all as acting and then see if Moscow Mitch refuses to allow the Senate to confirm. If not, they can remain as acting and their titles can change slightly to give them more time as acting before someone has to be confirmed. Trump has done this for four years.
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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #31)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:41 PM
PatSeg (35,922 posts)
32. Yes
I'm quite sure Biden already has much of this planned. He knows what he's up against and has been in DC long enough to know what to do AND who to call.
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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #17)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:24 PM
ancianita (21,196 posts)
29. They are planning the Fifth Column's final stage of takeover by Putin style mafia FASCISM.
That would end the Fifth Column's work (the GOP) and begin the corporate control of both government (in which the GOP continues as Big Corp's wholly owned subsidiary) and the means of production. That's Fascism -- advanced capitalism -- owning everyone and everything that provide wealth.
Biden and the Democratic Party are out-planning them all. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to IronLionZion (Reply #17)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:44 PM
C Moon (9,150 posts)
33. Probably putting loyalists in place who will quit when the new admin comes in.
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:33 AM
llashram (2,122 posts)
18. I think the orange menace
will try and bring his "stand back and stand bye" into play to try and gain the dictatorship he craves. Won't work of course. He is the emperor with no clothes, no win, no sanity and soon no freedom.
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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:58 AM
pandr32 (6,969 posts)
19. Implacable lunatic fires people to feel important
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:00 PM
Rebl2 (3,013 posts)
20. Maybe when
A president loses, they should not be allowed to fire anyone unless they have done something illegal.
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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #20)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:15 PM
WePurrsevere (24,226 posts)
24. I agree. Unless it's for an excellent reason, a freeze on firing and hiring too....
This tanTrump is not only petty and ridiculous coming from a LOSING president it's disruptive and dangerous for our country.
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Response to WePurrsevere (Reply #24)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 06:02 PM
Rebl2 (3,013 posts)
46. Yes!
Good idea. Freeze on hiring and firing unless, like you say, for good reason.
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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #20)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:25 PM
Captain Zero (2,782 posts)
30. Yes we need to write some transition laws.
That can be enforced.
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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:56 PM
LudwigPastorius (2,911 posts)
27. Suddenly, looking for "complete loyalty" in top positions at the DOD, CIA, & Homeland Security,...
even though he's had over three and a half years to make changes? It would be naive to think that all these firings are just revenge for some kind of past perceived slight. I'm tellin' ya, Trump is planning some kind of illegal power grab. I'm glad General Milley has publicly stated that the military isn't going along with whatever horseshit Trump tries to pull. |
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:47 PM
secondwind (11,151 posts)
34. SHADES OF STALIN!
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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:53 PM
Illumination (2,458 posts)
35. Trying to weaken our institutions all he can on his way out the door...
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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 02:41 PM
Midnight Writer (9,885 posts)
36. I wonder if Trump is just pissed they blocked Russian interference in our election?
Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #36)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 03:09 PM
58Sunliner (3,308 posts)
39. Could be.
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 03:12 PM
58Sunliner (3,308 posts)
40. What is this all about? Allowing Putin to corrupt our systems?
It would not surprise me in the least if that pos attacked us as Biden takes office. Shit stain is laying out the welcome mat?
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