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Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:55 PM

'Virus is raging' through Ohio; daily record smashed with 3,590 new cases

Source: Dayton Daily News

None of Ohioís counties moved up to level 4 Thursday as the state reported 3,590 new coronavirus cases in the last day, shattering the previous record of 2,858.

Today is Ohioís first time reporting more than 3,000 cases in a day. It beats the stateís previous record set on Saturday by more than 700 cases.

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Ohio has 43 red, or level 3 counties, including Butler, Clark, Greene, Montgomery and Warren counties, making up 78% of the stateís population. There are only two remaining yellow counties in the state.

The state also reported its third highest number of hospitalizations in a day with 194. The stateís five highest days for hospitalizations have all taken place in the last week and a half, DeWine said.

Read more: https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/coronavirus-dewine-to-update-ohioans-on-virus/IC3HSK4YLVDDLHXQBQ7VUE6HZA/



This despite the otherwise odious Governor DeWine's well-deserved accolades at the outset of the pandemic. It portends a very bleak winter, indeed.

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Reply 'Virus is raging' through Ohio; daily record smashed with 3,590 new cases (Original post)
OilemFirchen Oct 29 OP
Ohiogal Oct 29 #1
OilemFirchen Oct 29 #5
FarPoint Oct 29 #6
Buckeye_Democrat Oct 29 #7
FarPoint Oct 29 #15
Buckeye_Democrat Oct 29 #16
Ohiogal Oct 29 #10
luvs2sing Oct 29 #8
Ohiogal Oct 29 #11
KentuckyWoman Oct 29 #31
Ohiogal Oct 29 #32
Buckeye_Democrat Oct 29 #2
OilemFirchen Oct 29 #3
Buckeye_Democrat Oct 29 #4
luvs2sing Oct 29 #9
Aerator Oct 29 #12
progree Oct 29 #13
Buckeye_Democrat Oct 29 #14
progree Oct 29 #17
Buckeye_Democrat Oct 29 #18
progree Oct 29 #19
Buckeye_Democrat Oct 29 #20
progree Oct 29 #21
Buckeye_Democrat Oct 29 #22
progree Oct 29 #23
Buckeye_Democrat Oct 29 #27
Steelrolled Oct 29 #33
Buckeye_Democrat Oct 30 #39
pat_k Oct 29 #28
Buckeye_Democrat Oct 29 #29
pat_k Oct 29 #30
progree Oct 29 #34
pat_k Oct 29 #35
progree Oct 29 #36
pat_k Oct 29 #37
OilemFirchen Oct 29 #24
progree Oct 29 #26
Evolve Dammit Oct 29 #25
OhioChick Oct 30 #38

Response to OilemFirchen (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:58 PM

1. It's almost like Mikey has given up

Said the other day that he didnít plan on imposing any new restrictions in the state. Heís leaving being the bad guy up to the locals now.

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:10 PM

5. Pretty much true to form.

I actually had hope that DeWine would continue to pleasantly surprise, despite the horror I felt when he was first elected. Proves that consummate cynics can be duped as well.

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:34 PM

6. When Dr Acton was managing the virus we had respect, hope and were saving lives...

DeWine chose poorly...let her go and embraced the tRumpsters....We are in deep shit now here in Ohio...A cesspool of covid-19...everywhere.

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:38 PM

7. What happened to her was infuriating!

She quit, but mostly because DeWine and others seemed to let her deal with the Trump-lunatics outside of her family's house without their help or protection!

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:22 PM

15. Ohio Nurses Association was working very close with her ..

We Nurses with ONA are devastated about how she was not supported or protected...She was spot on with Protocols.

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:25 PM

16. She was great!

DeWine is spineless, like a worm.

He's shown some respect for science unlike some other GOP governors, and I'm grateful for that much, but he's still a Republican.

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:46 PM

10. We Ohioans will remember this

When heís up for re-election, you can bet on it.

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:44 PM

8. DeWine is worthless.

He was actually worthless back in March, too. He just looked good because he was listening to Dr. Acton. His worthlessness became obvious after he threw her under the bus.

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Response to luvs2sing (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:47 PM

11. Well said, luvs2sing.

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 08:55 PM

31. I'm north of Cinci and I can tell you almost no one is masking up around here.

September I was near Sandusky with my nephew and same thing. Almost no masking and no respect for personal space.

Dewine has been BEGGING. Instead of listening Ohioans threated the scientist. When we had lock downs no one really did that either. He can't force dumbshits to be smart.


Don't know the rest of Ohio but round these parts, lots of dumbshits.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Reply #31)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:16 PM

32. Dumb shits are everywhere

I have to say, though, itís a rare sight to see someone in a public place without a mask around here (NE Ohio, Trumbull Co.) .... HOWEVER you do see people wearing masks over mouth only

I have not set foot inside a restaurant since last February so that is something I canít comment on. You do see lots and lots of cars on any given night in the restaurant parking lots, so they are back to business in full force around here. I have no idea what mask protocol is in a restaurant.

For the most part I think itís family gatherings (birthday parties,weddings) and football watching parties where people are careless. Mikey pleads and pleads but never leads!!

Dr. Acton is a graduate of the same high school and college my sons went to. We are all proud of her around here. She had a fan club online. The way she was treated by the deplorables was simply appalling. Mikey caves to the crazies and now look where we are.

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Response to OilemFirchen (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:02 PM

2. 5.7% positivity rate over the last week per Johns Hopkins...

... so it could be a lot worse as observed in other states, but that percentage will keep increasing.

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Response to OilemFirchen (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:03 PM

3. Ohio's Level 4 (Purple):

Public Emergency

Severe exposure and spread. Only leave home for supplies and services. Follow all current health orders.


No county has ever reached Level 4, but it looks like three are about to hit the metrics soon.

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:10 PM

4. I think some of them have been at Level 4, but...

... they're not officially designated as such if they don't meet the dangerous metrics for two weeks.

My religious sister skipped her early morning church services (which has stricter guidelines than the later one) the last couple weeks because of the warnings about her county.

She then learned a few days ago that her pastor, his wife, and several church members tested positive! So now the in-person services are halted for everyone anyway.

Edit: I advised her to stop all in-person church services months ago, but I can't tie her down. At least she's being somewhat cautious.

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:46 PM

9. I think Butler County was purple the first week they had the colors.

Being that they are very conservative, they pressured DeWine to alter the system. Now it seems no one will ever be designated purple even if they meet all the criteria. Republican politics strikes again..

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Response to luvs2sing (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 04:36 PM

12. Butler county is very conservative and all I hear is people complaining about the about the masks

Though most businesses have a sign up to wear a mask other than the big stores nothing is enforced and even the big stores youíll always see several people walking around like a strutting rooster thinking that their being patriotic and if you go in a 2 well known convenience stores in the area you may as well forget about it. Dewine started out good till the crazies got a hold of him now heís more concerned about protecting trump and himself.He said today nothing will shutdown again because heís not a dictator.The nursing homes are back open and the cases are stated to rise which will bring more deaths .The whole gop looks at seniors as useless eaters that served their purpose. And for being in Butler county I canít stand even going out to my mailbox because I know if I see someone there is a 95% chance they are against everything I believe in. PS we have our own Sheriff Joe with Richard Jones

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Response to OilemFirchen (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 04:54 PM

13. Daily new cases, 7 day moving average, about a 2.5-fold increase in last 5 weeks

All about Ohio -
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/ohio-coronavirus-cases.html

In a 14 day period (7 day moving average as of today minus 7 day moving average as of 2 weeks ago):

Cases +58%
Deaths +70%
Hospitalized +50%

Yet, of the U.S. states, Ohio is 28th highest in daily new cases per capita, 7 day moving average, IOW a little better than the median -- there are 27 worse states
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

Trouble is as fast as cases rise in a state, it doesn't change its ranking much because the worst half or more of states are rising just about as fast or faster.

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Response to progree (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:13 PM

14. I dislike the NYT's cases per capita so much.

Hypothetically, an entire state could be infected and they'd have 0 new cases per capita if nobody was tested.

I prefer positivity rates, like the WHO and Johns Hopkins.

Michigan is doing a little better than Ohio right now, with a lower positivity rate, but they look worse at the NYT because they're testing 4.7 people per 1000 compared to Ohio's 3.7 people per 1000.

And Pennsylvania is doing much worse than both of them with a positivity rate of 12.4%, but they look better per the NYT because they're testing only 1.3 people per 1000. (It's been like that for awhile in PA, often managing to avoid New York's "bad list" of states by barely testing.)

The more testing, the better! There shouldn't be any incentives for states to test less, such as to lower their "new cases per 100,000 population" numbers.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:27 PM

17. Any site that displays absolute case numbers or per capita case numbers has this problem

and they all do.

Good points for sure.

I keep an eye on positivity rates too and testing rates per capita too.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/tracker/overview

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/usa

I used to post long screeds showing the above for a state, including the links (typically about 4 or 5), showing all aspects, but got a bit weary, as I was the only one doing it month after month. I have a life to live too.

Now I pay the price. Oh well. They say life sucks and then you die.

People just want to post some article, and very few seem to give a fuck about all of the different numbers or posting links or putting it in perspective. If an article has big and scary-looking numbers, 4 paragraphs get posted. Often, ahem, with no mention of positivity rates or testing rates. No links to anything except that article.

I'm glad to see hospitalization rates being reported more often by the various sites -- though its a lagging indicator, it isn't much affected by testing rates, at least not in the near-term.

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Response to progree (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:35 PM

18. It's okay! I wasn't trying to attack you.

It's just something that's been annoying me for awhile, like when New York would put Ohio on their "naughty list" again, while lower-testing states with higher positivity rates such as PA and OR (among others) were okay to visit NY and not face their isolation protocols.

I'm probably picking nits, and I've personally had no desire to visit NY recently anyway.

I totally understand wanting to make stuff simpler for yourself! I've done it too! Lol.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:39 PM

19. Thanks. I much appreciate that. P.S. I went to Ohio State /nt

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Response to progree (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:41 PM

20. Hello, Buckeye grad!

I graduated from a different university in Ohio, but I usually follow Ohio State sports teams anyway.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #20)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:44 PM

21. I was there in 1976 (got my masters deg there), when Woody Hayes was coach

so that explains my prickly style

My undergraduate degree was at Northwestern U., Evanston Illinois, home of the Mildcats.

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Response to progree (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:50 PM

22. Great schools!

Northwestern has a better academic reputation than OSU, but they're both great for research like the other Big Ten schools.

You got your Master's about when Indiana had their "perfect" season.

Bobby Knight admired Woody Hayes, and it showed. Lol!

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #22)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:04 PM

23. I was trying to remember if I was there when Woody slugged that Clemson player on the sideline

and ended his career. But that was later, in December 1978.

Overly long article:
https://www.si.com/college/2016/12/23/woody-hayes-punch-clemson-ohio-state

Bauman [the Clemson player who intercepted the Ohio St. pass] was finally pushed out of bounds on the Ohio State sideline, right next to the Buckeyesí 65-year-old head coach.

Goddamn Ö

Bauman got up, looked up at all those Southerners in the crowd and raised his hands in celebration.

Why, that son of a bitch.

Woody Hayes grabbed the back of Charlie Baumanís jersey, wound up and punched him in the chest, just below the neck. Bauman looked over at the Old Man like he might have looked at a poodle nipping at his pants. Bauman was in full pads and a helmet; Hayes was in a windbreaker and a black cap, flailing at him. Bauman didnít strike back. He didnít even push Hayes away. He just retreated toward his teammates on the field as Hayes kept grabbing at him. Clemson players ran over to the sideline; Ohio State players scuffled with them. One of Woodyís captains, Byron Cato, pulled him away.


The slug:

https://www.si.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_700/MTY4MTcyODYxNjU5NDI0MTI4/woody-hayes-punch-clemson-ohio-state-gator-bowl-1978jpg.webp

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Response to progree (Reply #23)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:31 PM

27. I saw that Gator Bowl on TV.

I was still a kid, and the first football game that I even recall watching was Ohio State / Oklahoma in 1977.

My father and brother weren't fans of Hayes, and they mostly seemed relieved that he'd surely be fired for that outburst. And that's indeed happened even before he returned to Ohio.

My brother said Johnny Carson seemed to always have a replacement host when Hayes was on his show during some Rose Bowls. He was also convinced that Hayes scared away a lot of talented high school players. He knew some of them at his high school (Troy) when they were probably the best high school team in Ohio, with players who played at other colleges and who later went to the NFL.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #27)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:30 PM

33. I read a book written by Woody's players

I don't know how common this was in those days, but when Woody would visit recruits, he would rarely bring up football. The discussion would be about what the student planned to study, and other personal things. The recruit would think that Woody must have changed his mind, and was not interested. But then an offer would come. Woody knew that he was really recruiting the parents.

Times have changed.

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Response to Steelrolled (Reply #33)

Fri Oct 30, 2020, 05:06 AM

39. Yeah, he certainly wasn't a bad guy...

... in so many ways. His tantrums just made others wary of him sometimes, which was understandable.

He was a right-winger, and my family rolled their eyes over that stuff too.

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Response to progree (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:34 PM

28. I think the Atlantic's project site is doing pretty well on context.

From charts on https://covidtracking.com

States at or heading to new peaks of currently hospitalized
(Choose States drop-down above; Per million radio button below)

https://covidtracking.com/data/charts/daily-cases-and-currently-hospitalized

South Dakota (460 per million)
North Dakota (375 per million)
Montana (350 per million)
Wisconsin (250 per million)
Indiana (250 per million)
Kansas (250 per million)
Missouri (230 per million)
Oklahoma (230 per million)
Nebraska (225 per million)
Tennesse (200 per million)
Kentucky (180 per million)
Wyoming (180 per million)
Iowa (180 per million)
Idaho (160 per million)
New Mexico (125 per million)
West Virgina (125 per million)
Alask (122 per million)
Ohio (120 per million)
Minnesota (120 per million)
North Carolina (115 per million)
Utah (100 per million)

All time highs

New York (970 per million 4/13)
New Jersey (930 per million 4/15)
Washington DC (630 per million 5/4)
Massechusetts (575 per million 4/21)
Connecticut (550 per million 4/22)

Deaths per 100,000 by race
https://covidtracking.com/race

106 Black
70 Latinx
70 Native American and Alaska
55 Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander
White 47
Asian 45
Other 41

IMHE also tracks daily deaths, which I think is a better reflection of incidence (although improvements in treatment and reductions in mortality rate is not accounted for). They also don't provide the per capita numbers you see on the Atlantic's project site.

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Response to pat_k (Reply #28)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:40 PM

29. Thanks!

Hospitalization rate is definitely good to know!

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #29)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:55 PM

30. Your welcome. . .

... and you might want to give the OP with the info a kick:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214388929

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Response to pat_k (Reply #28)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:54 PM

34. Thanks much, I'm still figuring it out ... the charts are way cool, and being able to compare

the charts of 2 or 3 or 4 states or whatever side-by-side

From charts on https://covidtracking.com

States at or heading to new peaks of currently hospitalized
(Choose States drop-down above; Per million radio button below)

https://covidtracking.com/data/charts/daily-cases-and-currently-hospitalized

South Dakota (460 per million)
North Dakota (375 per million)
etc. etc.


I'm having trouble getting the above table. TIA.

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Response to progree (Reply #34)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:12 PM

35. I just. . .

. . . checked off about 10 states at a time and noted those that were clearly at, or heading toward, an all time high for the state.

Not sure if this helps. The numbers are my rough rounding from the number displayed when I moused over the graph and moved the line to the last date. When you have a whole bunch of states up, clicking on the bit of the state's name displayed at the top highlights the state's graph. Mousing over the bit of the name shown displays the whole name.

To get the per million, you need to select from the "Choose Units" radio buttons in the lower right corner.

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Response to pat_k (Reply #35)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:28 PM

36. Thanks much. I was hoping for an "easy button" 😊 /nt

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Response to progree (Reply #36)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:36 PM

37. I need one of those for my life!!

As I was fiddling just now, I realized I missed a few.

Idaho 160 per million
Alaska 120 per million
North Carolina 115 million

These have not be added into the list.

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Response to progree (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:06 PM

24. That was yesterday.

Using primitive math * - because I don't have the previous six days' data available - today's 7-day average is at least 2,636 new cases. That's at least a 6% increase over yesterday's 2,477. So cases are now up a likely 64%.

* Multiply 7-day average by 6, add today's numbers, divide by 7.

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #24)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:11 PM

26. OK, it is a day old - so their increase number is 7 days average ending yesterday

compared to 7 day average ending 14 days before yesterday. Thanks for updating.

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Response to OilemFirchen (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:10 PM

25. Dewine caved. Good luck OH. Many will die.

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Response to OilemFirchen (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2020, 01:53 AM

38. It's a Shitshow Here.....Jesus

9 hospitals over-capacity this morning, now 10. (my general area)

Nursing home patients are being turned away to go back to skilled nursing to die, alone.

Fuck DeWine.

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