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Report: Trump admin document says Billie Eilish is "destroying our country and everything we care ab

Source: The Fader

Report: Trump admin document says Billie Eilish is “destroying our country and everything we care about”


Today, the Washington Post reported that a $250 ad campaign ostensibly designed to "defeat despair" caused by the coronavirus pandemic was tailored boost Trump's re-election chances. Little surprise there, right? As Trump's appointees and contractors considered which celebrities to ask to star in the ads, candidates were flat-out rejected if they were seen to be opponents of the president and his policies.

According to leaked documents obtained by the Post, the Trump administration was not keen on asking Billie Eilish to participate: the documents describe Eilish as “not a Trump Supporter” and “destroying our country and everything we care about." It's not revealed how the Trump administration reached this equally terrifying and hilarious conclusion.

Out of 274 celebrities considered, 10 were approved. Other rejected celebrities included Jennifer (for her Super Bowl performance which criticized Trump's immigration policies), Justin Timberlake ("publicly endorsed Obama and supports gay marriage," according to the Trump admin document), and Christina Aguilera (“is an Obama-supporting Democrat and a gay rights supporting liberal”). Celebrities who made the cut included actor Dennis Quaid, Dr. Oz, and Billy Ray Cyrus.

The entire campaign has been put on hold, and none of the filmed ads have aired on television. The brains behind the campaign, Trump’s Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs Michael Caputo, is currently on a 60-day leave after a Facebook Live broadcast in which he baselessly told Trump supporters to prepare for an armed insurrection led by left-wing groups.

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Read more: https://www.thefader.com/2020/10/29/report-trump-admin-document-says-billie-eilish-is-destroying-our-country-and-everything-we-care-about



One of the more interesting entries on the list of "who or what the Trump admin considers more dangerous than Covid-19"...

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Reply Report: Trump admin document says Billie Eilish is "destroying our country and everything we care ab (Original post)
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 11:47 AM

1. I'd heard the name. Had to look her up. Interesting music but . . .

this has to be a nation on very rocky footing if this young woman is "destroying (it) and everything we care about."

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Response to Journeyman (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 11:54 AM

2. Not many people over 50 know much about her

But she's a household name among many zoomers.

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:19 PM

12. wish you were gay (Billie Eilish)

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 04:00 PM

63. Many, many of us over 50 know who she is

And like her. My 77-year-old mom loves her.

DU has always been odd this way, thinking only younger people know cdertain pop culture icons.

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 04:03 PM

64. I am 68

I love her. I even cover “I love you” by her. Kid Rock and Cat Scratch shit stain is out there. But Charlie Daniels is in wherever racist trump humping assholes go.

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Response to Traildogbob (Reply #64)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:14 PM

75. Charlie Daniels...

Charlie Daniels is dead now. trumpanzees will have to find another redneck I guess.

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Response to Kimber432 (Reply #75)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:38 PM

81. I know

That’s why I said where ever his kind end up. Racist Trump humping ass holes. Pretty sure heaven looks poorly on supporters of incest, child rape, and refugee child thieves .

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Response to Traildogbob (Reply #64)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:43 PM

83. I'm 68 also and I love her too.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Reply #83)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:55 PM

86. Lyrics have meaning

not so in most pop music. She records everything in her bedroom with her brother. A big FU to the criminal industry of music companies. Started writing at freakin 6 years old.

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Response to Traildogbob (Reply #86)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:09 PM

87. Yes. I think it's fabulous on so many levels.

She is incredibly talented and this will only become more so with time. Her genuine personality makes her so relatable.
Her success is one of the really cool things about the age in which we live.
There are so many incredibly talented creators, artists, singers, writers, makers in the world. Thanks to technology we are able to see more of them than ever. It's encouraging and inspiring at the same time.

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 04:14 PM

66. I'm one of the "not many"

I saw her on SNL and immediately became a fan.

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:35 PM

89. I'm 55 and know her music.

Not really a fan. But respect the way she and her brother produced he first album in her Bedroom, if I’m not mistaken.

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 1, 2020, 08:27 PM

107. I like songs that I've heard from her.

She's a really good artist/songwriter. I think her brother is a songwriter for her.

I'm over 60, BTW. But I don't know all of the newest artists.

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Response to Journeyman (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:57 PM

62. I just can't see her music catching on with young people.

I find her depressing and my kids find her depressing. It's a taste thing. I don't like sad music and neither do they.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #62)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 04:19 PM

67. She has won a LOT of awards, so I think her music has caught on

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Her music isn't for everyone, just like all music.

And she's not quite 19 years old.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #62)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:30 PM

79. Many kids love sad music.

Shit, that’s 90% of what I listened to as a teen; The Cure, The Smiths, Depeche Mode — misery with a beat.

My 16yr old daughter loves Billie Eilish. I think she’s just completely awful and largely lacking in actual talent, but I bear her no ill will.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #62)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:41 PM

82. Your assessment is way off for most people

Eilish's debut studio album, When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go? (2019), debuted atop the Billboard 200 and became the best-performing album of 2019 in the US.[2] It also reached number one in the UK. The album contains six Billboard Hot 100 top 40 songs: "When the Party's Over", "Bury a Friend", "Wish You Were Gay", "Xanny" and "Bad Guy", the last of which became her first number one single in the US. In 2020, she performed the theme song "No Time to Die" for the James Bond film of the same name, which became her first to peak at number one in the UK.

Her accolades include five Grammy Awards, two American Music Awards, two Guinness World Records, three MTV Video Music Awards, and one Brit Award. She is the youngest person and second person ever to win the four main Grammy categories – Best New Artist, Record of the Year, Song of the Year and Album of the Year – in the same year. In 2019, Time magazine placed her on their inaugural "Time 100 Next" list. Additionally, Eilish is the 23rd biggest artist of the digital singles era, according to the Recording Industry Association of America, selling 37.5 million singles in the US alone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billie_Eilish

Billie’s Instagram following is mostly female and between 13 and 24 years
68.2 million followers on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/billieeilish/

More states about her young following: https://medium.com/evolution-of-an-artist/unraveling-the-rise-of-billie-eilish-17fae8038340

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Response to FreeState (Reply #82)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:55 PM

85. I don't "get it"

To each their own.

But then again, I switch the dial during some episodes of Terry Gross' Fresh Air...

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #62)

Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:13 AM

96. She certainly doesn't do anything I like.

Why is she so breathy, like she's got asthma? How come pop singers now can't sing a sustained melodic line with some force behind it? Everything is choppy and thumpy and nervous.

I don't think rap is music because it does not have varying melodic pitches. It's spoken word with some bass under it.

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Response to Manifestor_of_Light (Reply #96)

Sat Oct 31, 2020, 02:06 AM

104. I agree

I also think she's a modern day beat poet...

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #62)

Fri Oct 30, 2020, 01:49 AM

97. Just to put this subject in perspective I took some screenshots from Spotify ...

Where they show the play counts of artists; 10 most popular songs (although there's a time component where an artists more recently popular stuff gets a leg up over older tracks with more listens in terms of ordering and/or making the top 10, so there's that).

Safe to say the Spotify is very popular with young people. All people really, but especially young people.

How about we check the listens for an artist one would assume is very popular ...



Or perhaps a staggering popular and beloved classic rock group ...



And then here's listens to Billy Eilish ...



Wherein, when I did a rough count of Billie's two biggest hits alone ... they have close to as many listens as the entire Top 10 of the Beatles. And 7 songs more popular than any Beatles song. Granted the Beatles have a LOT more songs so I'm sure their total listens are higher overall. But yeah ... Billie's pretty friggin' popular

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #97)

Sun Nov 1, 2020, 04:05 PM

105. "Popular" does not necessarily mean "good".

Yes. I am a classical musician with a lot of years of training.

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Response to Manifestor_of_Light (Reply #105)

Mon Nov 2, 2020, 12:26 AM

108. Oh for sure. That wasn't what I was addressing though :)

Just showing that her music has most definitely 'caught on with the young people'.

A lot of young people have shit for taste.

Most of them really, esp. nowadays.

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #108)

Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:02 PM

111. People tell me I'm a horrible and worthless person

for saying that rap is not music. It doesn't have all the elements of music.

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #97)

Sun Nov 1, 2020, 06:01 PM

106. "Popular" does not necessarily mean "good".

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:00 PM

3. $250 ad campaign?

The Internet is really something.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:17 PM

10. $250 million

 

Paid by taxpayers for the sole benefit of fat bastard.

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Response to chuckperth (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:27 PM

27. and went straight into trumps pocket no doubt

They spent 250M, but only 250 on production. The rest funnels through shell companies no doubt.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #27)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:21 PM

88. Sorry But, No

The dems found out about it a bit ago and started asking embarrassing questions.
The campaign was put on hold, and per the House leader I saw on CNN (forget his name, but he is a chairman of one of the committees).
They are introducing legislation to take this from unethical idea to illegal idea.
But, the $ didn't go to PINO! It's still sitting in its appropriation silo.

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Response to chuckperth (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 08:02 PM

91. Thank you! Absolutely true.

Journalism these days.

Wanted most to say: a hearty welcome to DU, chuckperth!

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:54 PM

19. They're also against Jennifer

for her Super Bowl performance.

Jennifer... Lopez?? I don't watch football.

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Response to Chellee (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 04:57 PM

72. Jennifer Lopez's halftime performance

was absolutely spectacular. She looked great, sounded awesome. Had a bunch of kids in cages on the stage as a thumb in the eye of Trump and his ilk. “This is what your president is doing right now” kind of thing. I’m not shocked trump doesn’t want her. Thinner skinned bastard can’t deal when people criticize him.

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Response to christx30 (Reply #72)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 08:11 PM

93. Turds spent $250 million vetting the Stars for pro-Drumpf views.

Caputo the Nut at HHS...

US vetted stars’ politics to showcase Trump virus response

https://apnews.com/article/trump-ad-christina-aguilera-jack-black-e831d89cd7b3028ca4b632a5e2d0fe83

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Response to Chellee (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 08:06 PM

92. Who can be against J.Lo?

She fills up a room, even outdoors.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:06 PM

73. $250...chump change

Lorne Michaels offered the Beatles $3000, later upped to $3200 to reunite on SNL.

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Response to Mendocino (Reply #73)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 08:00 PM

90. I just want to get to that asteroid before Elon Musk.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:00 PM

4. I bet the documents included the phrase "wild jungle rhythms" too.

Probably more than once.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:02 PM

5. Well Billie Eilish is 'The Bad Guy'.



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Response to iscooterliberally (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:18 PM

11. And in her own words .... "Duh!" :)

I love Billie Eilish, and I'm 54!

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Response to VWolf (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:39 PM

31. I'm 57, but most of my life I have worked in the music business in one way or the other.

I found out about her when Dave Grohl from the Foo Fighters mentioned her a year or so ago.

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Response to iscooterliberally (Reply #31)

Mon Nov 2, 2020, 04:39 PM

109. Good enough for Dave

Good enough for me.

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Response to VWolf (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:45 PM

33. yep...67 and love her....

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Response to VWolf (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:02 PM

39. I'm 56 and thinks she's great.

She's what we all wished we were when we were her age or least we thought of ourselves that way when we were her age.

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Response to iscooterliberally (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:37 PM

59. Her dress and video

Looks derivative of Yolandi from Die Antwoord, in my opinion.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:03 PM

6. It is a given that 10 were approved

I can't find who they are/were. I wish I could find out so as to discontinue watching, listening to their attempts at being "stars"

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Response to llashram (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:03 PM

53. Let me guess: Ted Nugent, Kid Rock, Scott Baio ..... n/t

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Response to llashram (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:25 PM

56. Yeah if he wants music to kiss his ass...

You should hear the "country hip hop" genre, it's as putrid as it sounds!

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Response to llashram (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:26 PM

78. From the Washington Post report:

The documents show that Trump political appointees and the contractors they hired also vetted celebrities for the public health campaign based on whether they had ever criticized the president, or supported former president Barack Obama, gay rights or same-sex marriage. Of at least 274 celebrities under consideration, only 10 appear to have been approved, according to a document the lawmakers obtained.
...
The administration ultimately approved only 10 celebrities to participate in a PSA program: actor Dennis Quaid; gospel singer CeCe Winans; singer Marc Anthony; Hasidic singer Shulem Lemmer; Mehmet Oz, known as the television doctor Dr. Oz; country singers Billy Ray Cyrus, Miranda Lambert and Garth Brooks; former basketball player Dwyane Wade; and singer Enrique Iglesias.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/10/29/trump-covid-advertising-celebrities/

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #78)

Fri Oct 30, 2020, 09:31 AM

102. thank you

not surprised by any of the approved. I just threw the Winans CD's out and today is trash day.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:07 PM

7. Count me as one of the old fogies who has heard the name Billie Eilish

but otherwise know nothing about her.

And with all due respect to someone who is apparently a very talented young person, I somehow doubt she has the reach to destroy our country and everything we care about. Oh, wait. I keep forgetting that the Republicans constantly claim someone else is doing exactly what they are doing.

Which also means, that Trump's constant refrain that Joe Biden has made money from shady China deals means that he himself is doing exactly that.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:08 PM

8. Dr. Oz supports

……Repugs or is against "gay marriage" etc? I don't get this list.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:36 PM

16. Dr. Oz helped to push the idea of hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID

Which Trump had shares in.
So he appointed Oz on his council on sport, fitness and nutrition.
Oz had Donnie on his show in 2016 as a guest. He's a Trump humper.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 30, 2020, 11:03 AM

103. Never liked or trusted the guy.

Now I know why. He's a hummer. Thanks!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:10 PM

9. All the Good Girls Go To Hell (I'm sure this is one that drives RWNJ crazy)

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:22 PM

13. Oh no, they've been orangelisted! How will their careers ever survive?

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Response to tanyev (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 30, 2020, 02:04 AM

98. They'll never work in this town again! (nt)

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:24 PM

14. Is someone mad she showed up at the DNC but not the RNC?

These clowns are so petty.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:35 PM

15. Huh?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:36 PM

17. I believe the word you are looking for is "degenerate".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_art


Degenerate art (German: Entartete Kunst) was a term adopted in the 1920s by the Nazi Party in Germany to describe modern art. During the dictatorship of Adolf Hitler, German modernist art, including many works of internationally renowned artists, was removed from state-owned museums and banned in Nazi Germany on the grounds that such art was an "insult to German feeling", un-German, Jewish, or Communist in nature. Those identified as degenerate artists were subjected to sanctions that included being dismissed from teaching positions, being forbidden to exhibit or to sell their art, and in some cases being forbidden to produce art.

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Response to ret5hd (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:25 PM

26. Exactly what I thought of -- in case there was any doubt about Trump's affinity for Nazis.

MoMA recently presented an exhibit of some of these works:
https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/3868

Here's a painting the loutish dumbasses (the Nazis, that is) thought was "degenerate":

André Derain. Valley of the Lot at Vers. 1912
André Derain’s Valley of the Lot at Vers was removed from the Wallraf-Richartz Museum in Cologne. In 1939, The Museum of Modern Art purchased the painting from Karl Buchholz, one of four art dealers acting on behalf of the German Government, and his partner Curt Valentin, a German-Jewish immigrant who had settled in New York after fleeing Germany. Feeling fortunate at having acquired the painting, MoMA director Alfred H. Barr, Jr. stressed the continuity of the work within the French tradition, stating that "the Derain painting, far from being radical, is a severely disciplined landscape in a modern classical style derived from Cézanne and Poussin."

Oil on canvas, 28 7/8 x 36 1/4" (73.3 x 92.1 cm). Abby Aldrich Rockefeller Fund. © 2017 Artists Rights Society (ARS), New York/ADAGP, Paris

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:40 PM

18. Dennis Quaid, Dr. Oz, and Billy Ray Cyrus?

Wow! What a star studded event! I'd like to know who the other 7 were they picked if these were the standouts.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:57 PM

20. Billie Eilish Carpool Karaoke with James Corden


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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #20)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 04:25 PM

68. That smile!

Love it!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:00 PM

21. Don't know a lot about her but have this version on my Spotify Account

She definitely has talent. Major shocker. She is a never trumper, just like every other living artist I listen to.

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Response to Norbert (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:37 PM

30. There's a demo version of this song in the latest version of Logic Pro X music production software

It's very instructive to look under the hood to see how it's put together. The song uses 36 tracks, relying on various software tonal and percussion instruments to support Billie's vocals. Her brother, Finneas O'Connell, did the production.

This video is by somebody else, but it's a good overview for the music nerds who want to learn more about how this song was produced:

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:09 PM

22. Are you sure about Billy Ray Cyrus?

Isn't that Milley's Father?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:15 PM

23. She and her brother are very talented.

I don't listen to her music, but I respect what she does. She sings well. I happen to have other tastes.

I am no Ariana Grande fan, either. I think she sings well, too. I respect the way she handled things after the bombing at her concert.

Not many performers or celebrities seem to like Trump. Boo fucking hoo.

Have you noticed that there is no music in the current White House? Past Presidents had all kinds of concerts. Trump is more than just a philistine. He is a troglodyte.

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #23)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:11 PM

43. C'mon, he plays the Village People at his superspreader events

not enough culture for you?

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #23)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 04:30 PM

69. Finneas

Yeah, I think they're great.

I suppose OrangeAss is too busy thinking about golf (and how to cheat at it) to be very interested in the arts in any way.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:18 PM

24. If Pop Culture can't save the Pop Culture President then Pop Culture has died

RIP. You were all a bunch of screaming and moaning drama queens to me

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:22 PM

25. From the Washington Post

The administration ultimately approved only 10 celebrities to participate in a PSA program: actor Dennis Quaid; gospel singer CeCe Winans; singer Marc Anthony; Hasidic singer Shulem Lemmer; Mehmet Oz, known as the television doctor Dr. Oz; country singers Billy Ray Cyrus, Miranda Lambert and Garth Brooks; former basketball player Dwyane Wade; and singer Enrique Iglesias.
Three of them sat for interviews about aspects of the pandemic, which were to be used in the ad campaign, but as of Oct. 1, all had withdrawn their consent for those interviews to be used, according to a document included in the letter.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/10/29/trump-covid-advertising-celebrities/

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Response to Gymbo (Reply #25)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:47 PM

34. I assume their "approved" list doesn't automatically imply they support the Admin.

The list is just likely people who *haven't* come out vocally against Trump, and I'm glad to hear that all participants withdrew support after figuring out what was going on.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:37 PM

28. That would be hilarious is it wasn't just so tragic. It's an enemies list, more or less -

of celebrities.

Not the first one, I know.

That's what makes it even more tragic. Never learn.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:37 PM

29. That would be hilarious is it wasn't just so tragic. It's an enemies list, more or less -

of celebrities.

Not the first one, I know.

That's what makes it even more tragic. Never learn.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:40 PM

32. Okay, I'm invoking Poe's Law.

I mean, I personally find Eilish's music a bit bland and overhyped, but damn. Didn't know she was destroying our country.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #32)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:07 PM

41. I don't get the fascination with her, either.

She seems like a meh Hope Sandoval knockoff, to me. But I know the kids like her, for some reason.

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Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #41)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:12 PM

45. It's not like I'm a stick in the mud who doesn't like contemporary pop acts.

I think Lorde is brilliant, for example.

Taylor Swift has some great songs, as does Lady Gaga and Lizzo. Beyonce is incredible in terms of production. And I must admit that even Miley Cyrus has grown on me with some of her more recent work.

But Billie Eilish...I don't dislike her--and I'm glad she has emerged as an outspoken advociate--but I just don't find her music very interesting. For one, it's barely audible. I'd consider her more of a spoken word artist than a singer.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #45)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:18 PM

47. I'm right there with you.

There are a lot of modern acts I like. I just think Billie Eilish is boring.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #45)

Fri Oct 30, 2020, 02:23 AM

99. Miley's love of other artists that I love has endeared her to me ...

Anyone who covers Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots cannot possibly be bad

I also like Lorde and Lady Gaga.

I honestly wouldn't know if a song was Taylor Swift singing if you played it for me ... I've probably heard some of them but likely not more than 1 or 2 times and didn't know they were her. I don't know what she sounds like IOW.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:52 PM

36. Who is Billie Eilish? I knew - she's a performer. But...this is pretty Q Anon, don't you think?

Yep. She's tearing the whole thing down with a song....

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:56 PM

37. trump is jealous because Mr. Eilish has over 68 million followers. Legitimate followers, not fake

like trump has...

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:59 PM

38. She's 18 freaking years old. And she's encouraging young adults to vote. So, destroying our country

in the opinion of our "Stamp out the vote" aka republican party.

FWIW, I think she's absolutely amazing. She doesn't exploit her body (quite the opposite, she purposely wears baggy clothes to avoid that kind of attention). She is pro-LGBTQ in a big way (even though she's straight). She gets a TON of crap online from haters, to the point that she is afraid when she wins awards because the hate gets amped up to 11. And she wins a lot of awards, and for good reason.

I don't particularly love very many of her songs, but these two
--Bellyache
--My future

are completely stunning (in a good way), in my opinion. Way beyond her years musically speaking.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:03 PM

40. So, I listened to a couple of the songs below.

Not really a fan, but hard to believe that the Right-wing is so het-up about how she's destroying everything...geez.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:08 PM

42. How is this LBN?

Really???

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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #42)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 04:06 PM

65. How isn;t it??????

A President makes an enemies list of celebrities, and YOU think that isn't national news???

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:15 PM

46. I think Huckabee and the Nuge are available to sing "Cat Scratch Fever"

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #46)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:31 PM

50. They should stick to their own stars

beside Nuge & Huck there is Angelina Jolie's dad (can never remember his name), Chiachi (another forgettable name), Adam Sandler, Kanye West and --------- well, that is about all I can think about.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #46)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:29 PM

57. Mike Huck, pals with pedophiles Josh Duggar and Ted Nugent.

Mike Huck, pals with pedophiles Josh Duggar and Ted Nugent.

Republican family values.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:30 PM

48. Billie Eilish?

You mean the somewhat cute singer who wears clothes that'd fit Trump and dyes her hair green?

I guess if "everything we care about" includes not having your kids running around with green hair, then maybe...

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #48)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 04:33 PM

70. There's a reason she dresses that way

I can't remember exactly what she said, but it had something to do with objectification of the female body. She and her brother are very talented, IMO, and don't need to overshadow that talent with seeing how much skin she can show.

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Response to Rorey (Reply #70)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:43 PM

95. Her reasoning is very logical

She dresses in Trump-sized clothes to avoid being body-shamed.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:30 PM

49. None of those artists they "rejected" would EVER consent to being in a Trump ad

I'm sure they're just crushed to "not make the cut."


Since fascism is inherently antithetical to creativity, virtually all RW music is shite.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:33 PM

51. Sounds like an employment project for

Kid Rock and Ted Nugent.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:34 PM

52. As a musician, I find her work to be creative and thoughtful.

And I'm 71!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:08 PM

54. Shades of Nixons Enemies list in 2020

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:33 PM

58. Trump is the bad guy. Duh!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:50 PM

60. She reminds me of Allen Ginsburg or a beat poet

I find her depressing..

Shoot me...not my type of music...

I fail to see how she's destroying country...just as I fail to see how Kanye is destroying our country or how Justin Beiber is destroying our country or how Britney Spears destroyed our country...Katie Perry, Lady Gaga...put any name in there...

My kids age: 27, 30 and 34 also find her depressing.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:55 PM

61. Damn..you gotta wonder what he thinks about Lizzo



Truth hurts, doesn't it?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 04:51 PM

71. She spoke and sung at DNC Convention this year.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:12 PM

74. Billie Eilish is your enemy.... Vladdy Putin is your friend

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:18 PM

76. So you're a tough guy

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:19 PM

77. Today, the Washington Post reported that a $250 ad campaign ostensibly designed to ...

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I'm sure they mean $250 million.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:47 PM

84. Related article: Trump administration vetted political views of 274 celebrities for botched $265 mil

Trump administration vetted political views of 274 celebrities for botched $265 million Covid ad campaign, House lawmakers say

The “PSA Celebrity Tracker” used by HHS details the political views of more than 200 celebrities considered for the campaign, according to an internal HHS document dated Oct. 23 that was produced by contractor Atlas Research.

The document lists the political leanings of various artists, their arrest history, drinking or drug problems, sexual misconduct or sex tapes as well as which segment of the population they appealed to.

Singer Adam Levine is a “Liberal democrat who supported Obama and fights for gay rights,” but he appealed to the general population as well as to “super spreaders.” Also popular with “super spreaders,” singer Lady Gaga hasn’t “specifically claimed any political side,” although she vocally supported Hillary in 2016, according to the list. Actor and singer Neil Patrick Harris was popular among the LGBTQ community as well as the general populace. He also “Performed at the Republican National Convention in 2016,” the document notes, “but appears to be a liberal Democrat.”

Of actor Danny Devito, the document says pointedly: “Democrat, hates Republicans.” And actor Jack Black is “known to be a classic Hollywood Liberal,” according to the document.

Another document from Atlas, dated Sept. 29, includes notes from a meeting with HHS officials where they said the PSA with comedian George Lopez is “Not moving forward due to previous concerns regarding his comments regarding the President.”


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/29/trump-administration-vetted-political-views-of-274-celebrities-for-botched-covid-ad-campaign.html

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:26 PM

94. It's because she asked generation Z to go out and vote and they are...

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2020, 07:35 AM

100. Unlocking

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #100)

Fri Oct 30, 2020, 08:28 AM

101. Thank you! And I want to note here that The Fader has been around for 20+ years & has 6 million

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:06 PM

110. I thought Obama already did that

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