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Thu Oct 29, 2020, 08:48 AM

UK Labour suspends Jeremy Corbyn over anti-Semitism report

Source: BBC

Labour has suspended Jeremy Corbyn after an inquiry found the party responsible for "unlawful" harassment and discrimination when he was leader.

The UK's human rights watchdog, in its report on anti-Semitism in the party, also said his office had "politically interfered" in the complaints process.

Afterwards, Mr Corbyn said the scale of anti-Semitism within Labour had been "dramatically overstated".

Labour then said it was suspending him for a "failure to retract" his remarks. Mr Corbyn's successor as leader, Sir Keir Starmer, said the publication the Equality and Human Rights Commission's (EHRC) report had brought "a day of shame" for the party.

Read more: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54730425



Want to know how we ended up with a useless incompetent moron like Boris Johnson as UK Prime Minister? Because his main opponent at last year's general election was Jeremy Corbyn. Easily the worst leader of the Labour party ever, whose time in the role was dogged by factional infighting, failure to stand up to the Tories over the disastrous project to leave the EU and endless anti-Semitism scandals.

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Reply UK Labour suspends Jeremy Corbyn over anti-Semitism report (Original post)
T_i_B Oct 29 OP
My Pet Orangutan Oct 29 #1
T_i_B Oct 29 #7
My Pet Orangutan Oct 29 #8
Myrddin Oct 29 #15
Polybius Oct 29 #20
shotten99 Oct 29 #2
JI7 Oct 29 #3
TheRickles Oct 29 #12
My Pet Orangutan Oct 29 #18
TheRickles Oct 30 #22
JI7 Oct 30 #23
TheRickles Oct 30 #25
My Pet Orangutan Oct 29 #4
T_i_B Oct 29 #6
Post removed Oct 29 #13
ananda Oct 29 #5
Jose Garcia Oct 29 #9
Initech Oct 29 #10
Polybius Oct 29 #21
Happy Hoosier Oct 29 #11
BlueIdaho Oct 29 #14
Steelrolled Oct 29 #16
T_i_B Oct 29 #17
NorthOf270 Oct 29 #19
JI7 Oct 30 #24

Response to T_i_B (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:10 AM

1. Micheal Foot is up there for worst labour leader

Not an antisemite, no, but the 1983 manifesto included promises

Immediate nuclear disarmament
Immediate withdrawal from the EEC
Nationalization of the banks
Abolish the House of Lords

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Response to My Pet Orangutan (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:32 AM

7. That was 1983

By 1993 Labour was on the rise under John Smith and the Tories were struggling with sleaze and the repercussions of Black Wednesday.

As bad as Foot was, he didn't lurch from one anti-Semitism scandal to another.

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Response to T_i_B (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:34 AM

8. Fixed. ty.

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Response to T_i_B (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:03 PM

15. John Smith - the best Prime Minister we never had.

I know it's well worn, but it's always worth repeating.

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Response to My Pet Orangutan (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:04 PM

20. Wow, that's insane radical left

They make our left look like conservatives. 😂

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Response to T_i_B (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:11 AM

2. In all fairness, I thought the anti-Semitism charges were exaggerated

I never saw evidence of it, but then again, I wasn't watching closely enough.

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Response to shotten99 (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:17 AM

3. not exaggerated at all

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Response to JI7 (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:07 AM

12. Could you provide a link, showing how bad it was? Thanks

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Response to TheRickles (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 07:46 PM

18. 'Investigation finds unlawful acts of discrimination and harassment'

Investigation into antisemitism in the Labour Party finds unlawful acts of discrimination and harassment

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/our-work/news/investigation-antisemitism-labour-party-finds-unlawful-acts-discrimination-and

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Response to My Pet Orangutan (Reply #18)

Fri Oct 30, 2020, 06:55 AM

22. Thanks for the link, but this report is so oriented to bureaucratic process

that it's hard to know what was actually done or not done that was so egregious. The only specific acts described were some social media posts by 2 Labour politicians that included "antisemitic tropes". What did they actually say, that merited such a harsh penalty for the leader of the party to which they belonged? I'm biased because I liked Corbyn, saw him as a UK parallel to Bernie in the sense of being able to push his party further leftward. Same as with Bernie, there was strong institutional and media resistance, so I'm concerned that this expulsion was part of that process. I'm also Jewish, FWIW, and have seen the "antisemitism" being weaponized all over the place.

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Response to TheRickles (Reply #22)

Fri Oct 30, 2020, 08:03 AM

23. Both have failed to do anything to actually get things done other than help people like Boris into

office .

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Response to JI7 (Reply #23)

Fri Oct 30, 2020, 08:45 AM

25. Interesting comments to an article in today's Guardian (UK) about this issue.

Several commentators note the vagueness of the allegations against Corbyn, and the possibility that the more centrist Blairite wing of the Labour Party was behind these efforts to besmirch Corbyn (a life-long anti-racist campaigner). There's a strong parallel to the Clinton/DNC faction of the Democratic Party working to undermine Bernie (I know that view isn't popular on DU, but I think that dynamic was in play - the Establishment feeling threatened by an increasingly popular outsider-turned-insider). And the party establishments' not embracing their leftist wings led to Johnson and Trump getting elected, IMO>

Here's one comment:
I have been reading the 850 page leaked Labour party report into antisemitism. Two things emerge so far:
1. the contention that around half the complaints/allegations during the period 2018-19 came from a single serial source who seemed to be acting maliciously to overwhelm the system, many of the allegations being repeated or spurious. This would, if the case, suggest that Corbyn is right in his assertion that the numbers are exaggerated;
2. The utterly toxic atmosphere in Labour HQ among Blairite officials determined to oust the democratically elected LOTO, with the implication that there was delaying/obstructing of the leadership's moves to deal with the issue. This changed in 2018 with change of staff and actions by Formby, as was recognised by the EHRC several times in their report.


Makes sense to me.

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Response to shotten99 (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:19 AM

4. Not exaggerated. Shameful.

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Response to shotten99 (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:27 AM

6. The Equality and Human Rights Commission has released it's report into Labour's anti-Semitism issues

It was pretty damming, and Corbyn's attempts to downplay and evade responsibility for the issues have caused him to be suspended from the party he used to lead a few months ago.

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Response to T_i_B (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:19 AM

5. I don't know how Corbyn lasted so long.

I've been wanting him gone for a long time.

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Response to T_i_B (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:38 AM

9. Wow. Sounds like Labour actually wants to start winning elections

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Response to T_i_B (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:52 AM

10. He'd fit right in with the Trump administration.

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Response to Initech (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:06 PM

21. No he wouldn't

Trump is a racist Republican and Corbyn is radical left. They would hate each other.

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Response to T_i_B (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:56 AM

11. Corbyn has managed to almost single-handedly cripple the UK labour party.

And WAY too many "progressives" cheered him on.

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Response to Happy Hoosier (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 11:20 AM

14. It's going to be a long trudge back to relevancy for Labour.

The ability of voters to join other viable parties is making it even worse.

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Response to T_i_B (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:56 PM

16. I've never fully understood the process of selecting (and removing) party leaders

It seemed like everyone knew Corbyn was a disaster, except those who somehow kept him in power.

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Response to Steelrolled (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 07:26 PM

17. Cultism

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The movement surrounding Corbyn was quite cultish and put loyalty to Corbyn ahead of everything else.

It wasn't a small movement either. Corbyn had significant grassroots support that dominated Labour. And Corbyn's supporters were often quite myopic with their focus on internal Labour Party issues above stuff that actually mattered to voters.

There was a leadership contest following the disastrous EU referendum, and Corbyn's lacklustre performance in that campaign, but the organisational network surrounding Corbyn, and the influx of new Labour members personally devoted to Corbyn ensured that the leadership challenge never really had a chance.

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Response to T_i_B (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:25 PM

19. Labour desperately needs an Obama or Trudeau type

 

Corbyn was a disaster.

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Response to NorthOf270 (Reply #19)

Fri Oct 30, 2020, 08:05 AM

24. Even a Macron type would help

He is more Center fiscally but clearly on the right side when it comes to issues of social justice .

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