Potentially Ominous Sign For Romney In Today’s Gallup Numbers
Source: The New Republic
Potentially Ominous Sign For Romney In Todays Gallup Numbers
Nate Cohn
October 9, 2012 | 1:32 pm
While the twitter-verse was ablaze with the news that Romney seized the lead in Gallups tracker of likely voters, the underlying data hinted at troubling news for Romney. After making big gains among registered voters following the debates, Gallups most recent days of tracking have shown a shift back in the presidents direction, with Obama returning to pre-debate levels.
Similarly, Gallups 3-day approval tracker found the president reaching 53 percent, suggesting that the president fared pretty well in interviews on Saturday, as well.
Ultimately, this is just two nights of tracking, but its consistent with the movement in Rasmussens tracker, Obamas strong performance in Colorado and Iowa in Rasmussens Sunday polls, and PPPs tweets about the evolution of their samples. If confirmed by other pollsters, theres a chance that Romneys impressive bounce might prove short-lived.
Read more: http://www.tnr.com/blog/electionate/108344/ominous-sign-romney-in-todays-gallup-numbers#
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)I guess the sky stayed up eh?
Can you hear Corporate Media gnashing teeth and sobbing?
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)538 dropped Obama's odds to 71.4%, down from 74.8 %yesterday and 78-something% two days ago.
Still, if this information holds up, Obama's odds are likely to improve over the next week.
thelarge
(23 posts)The lies are coming home to roost!
RDANGELO
(3,432 posts)There is no way he would be going on CNN if he thought he had the upper hand.
AFD
(9 posts)I agree, he's running scare again.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Romney is terrible in interviews. Also, he clearly avoids interviews because he can be asked hundreds of questions that would cause him to unravel (his tax returns, his plans to voucherize medicare, his debate lies, the 47 percent comment, etc.). There are enormous potential pitfalls to doing a CNN interview.
He must really be running scared.
If this was a guy who handled big interviews well, it would be less of a gamble. However, Romney tends to not do so well in interviews. He avoided the Sunday talk shows for months--even in the Republican primary. This is a guy who likes to be a bully (and apparently a liar) behind a podium. He doesn't like to be challenged.
You can bet, as you said, that Romney no longer believes he has the upper hand.
Also--I think his "stellar" debate performance gave him some unearned confidence. He might feel a bit emboldened right now because he erroneously believes that America is in love with him right now. He might be in reckless mode.
Let's hope he unravels and stumbles on CNN for all the world to see. Would love it.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...believe that the answer is...MORE ROMNEY!!!
They just need to see MORE of me! They loved me during the debate. And now they want more!
I'll give them more then!
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)may come back to haunt him in the following weeks.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)There's a little cottage industry of gleeful doom-and-gloomers who have been smearing turdish negativity across this board that will be sorely disheartened by this news. Those who delight in seeing Obama on the ropes will have to find a new line of bullshit to prosecute!
CitizenPatriot
(3,783 posts)Most fun watching them tell people that they were blind Obama bots who refused to accept the UTTER FAILURE AND DOOM of Obama, even tho the internals of the polls showed right away that Romney did not make gains where he needed to and it was a short term bounce.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Americans greatly dislike the lies Romney, Ryan, and the other Republicans so glibly spout.
LW1977
(1,232 posts)....Just ask President Mondale, President Perot and President Kerry.. Oh wait..
barbtries
(28,772 posts)the man does nothing but lie! how could anybody vote for him?!
waaaa
JohnnyRingo
(18,619 posts)I'd also question the scenario where a likely voter would watch the debate and say "I was going to vote for Obama, but now I'm going with Romney". What kind of wishy-washy citizen is going to do that? Is this the type that changes toothpaste every other week because they saw a new commercial that promises "a brighter smile and fewer cavities"?
Still, when it was McCain four years ago I could understand why some people liked the candidate. I'm sure he loves his country, is generally personable, and has a lengthy record of public service, but if someone now tells me they really like Mitt Romney and they think he'd be a great leader of the country, I call them a racist liar. Romney is simply a vote against Obama.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)I have many problems with John McCain. That fact does not negate his superiority when compared against Romney. As you said, he has along record of public service. McCain also won the first debate based upon his true beliefs.
For those Repugs who voted for Bush twice, sat out 2008, and are now voting for Romney, they are casting their vote against Obama, against the black man. That is telling of their character.
ABC poll finds Obama's numbers on the rise:
http://www.politicususa.com/obama-favorability-soars-romney-remains-popular-nominee-1980.html
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)These are registered voters...not likely voters. Likely voters are much closer.
Vietnameravet
(1,085 posts)seems really exciting the first night but after the thrill ( or alcohol) wears off you realize YIKES!! you need to get out FAST!!
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Very astute analogy there--comparing Romney to the girl you pick up in a bar.
I love that. A great editorial/op-ed could be written with that theme, for sure!
Let's just hope that Obama (and Biden on Thursday), do the equivalent of going into that dark bar--and flipping on the lights---for everyone to see the real ugliness!!!
We've all been there...
nolabear
(41,936 posts)You know, the one who told you all those things that sounded SO good even though you could've sworn you heard him talkIng to his buddies earlier and sounding like a jerk. But he was so forceful, and he swore you'd be better off with him, that he knew people and would treat you and your family with nothing but respect. And then when you were alone he screwed you, called you a whore, took your wallet and went back to the bar to run up a tab on your credit card and tell his friends how you we're beneath him. That guy.
12AngryBorneoWildmen
(536 posts)Just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding.
Vietnameravet
(1,085 posts)I never heard of a man doing anything like that.. Where did you get that idea?
renate
(13,776 posts)It really is.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Game over man, GAME OVER!
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)There is still so much time left.
Obama is a fighter. I would say that he does his best work when he is in fighting mode.
I think we will see a big change in Obama.
Remember how Obama was during the primary with Hillary Clinton?
'Nuf said.
Cha
(296,875 posts)shit about politics. But, they do know how to set their hair on FIRE.
Robeysays
(673 posts)<iframe width="420" height="315" src="
" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>This is exactly what they sound like. bill paxton from aliens.
rtracey
(2,062 posts)CNN is becoming another Fox news. Ashley Banfield seems to lean repub, and Wolf Blitzler seems just to lean..... Romney will get the easy questions like ABC and David Gregory on NBC.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Everyone hates Blitzer because he challenges both sides. He also lets both sides spew their talking points. So both sides are never happy with him. However, I think he does go after people and I don't think he likes to be known as the kow tower who allows politicians to remain unchallenged.
If it is Blitzer--I think we can expect that he may go after Romney. It's so easy!!! And of us could interview Romney and make him wet his pants! All you have to do is ask him basic questions about the lies he told during the debate. It's low-hanging fruit people--easily picked.
Ohhhh..I hope Romney gets his just desserts with this CNN interview.
And Ashley Banfield is a lefty for sure!
Kingofalldems
(38,425 posts)That Pew poll the other day did everything but walk up to houses with confederate flags in the front lawn and knock on the doors and Rmoney couldn't even pull 50% with that crowd. The polls aren't worrying me right now.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)Nobody likes Mitt. Then Debate One happens, and he looks good to the media punditry. The average RW Repub doesn't understand the talk about economics, but since the punditry thought Mitt won, they perked up and thought to themselves that maybe he could win after all.
Repubs love to vote for and be on the side of the winner, even if they personally don't like the candidate. So they start responding positively when polled.
Then the excitement dies down, and with it, Mitt's approval ratings. Some voters might even have listened to all the lies being debunked. So they respond negatively.
In short, the bump was entirely a creation of the media. And no substance.
tclambert
(11,084 posts)The immediate takeaway was he looked OK during the debate. But as people start going over the things he said, they'll start saying, "Wait a minute, WTF?" It may take a while for it to sink in. But do you really want to vote for someone who lies THAT much and changes major policy positions from day to day? Sooner or later, someone will put together a video of Romney debating Romney debating Romney debating Romney and make it clear he doesn't really stand for anything.
The only number we need to know.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Take, for example, Pew
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)Kteachums
(331 posts)Everyday those polls show Mitt gaining ground I am worried. I need Obama to win for my health. Go President Obama!
toby jo
(1,269 posts)PATRICK
(12,228 posts)of many polar opposites and what real effect it has on elections.
Mondale makes major damning speech promising new taxes. Regan is a shoe in with most press support or acquiescence although major rumblings about reality and mental competence run silent run shallow. Reagan stumbles scarily through first debate while rational and energetic Mondale pretty well clobbers him.
The aftermath is more supportive of the President but worried. Real polls do not move. Minds already made up. Mondale sees the handwriting on the wall and lies and really pitiful forays into sloganeering that seem to have defeated the ready to self-destruct Gary Hart offer no hope for his cause. He looks defeated and Haggard at second debate while Reagan looks "speeded" up all the way to an incomplete finish. The happy media pounds the nails in the coffin.
Now armed with media blank checks and a blanked out record(even as he speaks contradictions are put "behind him" a self blasted 47% Romney rides the first debate that only matters in a vague sort of contest way. Voters minds are equally still set in stone. Only this time the President is competent and not a real loser, the other side utterly energized by lying and sloganeering and the media happily taking their side.
Where was the media fear of losing election ratings and ad revenue then? Whatever the excuse they bow to the right, to put it most politely. This has become an interesting comparison in reversal and how powerful lies and the fraudulent corporate news community are in actually changing sensible minds.