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kpete

(71,965 posts)
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:20 PM Oct 2012

Potentially Ominous Sign For Romney In Today’s Gallup Numbers

Source: The New Republic

Potentially Ominous Sign For Romney In Today’s Gallup Numbers
Nate Cohn
October 9, 2012 | 1:32 pm

While the twitter-verse was ablaze with the news that Romney seized the lead in Gallup’s tracker of likely voters, the underlying data hinted at troubling news for Romney. After making big gains among registered voters following the debates, Gallup’s most recent days of tracking have shown a shift back in the president’s direction, with Obama returning to pre-debate levels.



Similarly, Gallup’s 3-day approval tracker found the president reaching 53 percent, suggesting that the president fared pretty well in interviews on Saturday, as well.

Ultimately, this is just two nights of tracking, but it’s consistent with the movement in Rasmussen’s tracker, Obama’s strong performance in Colorado and Iowa in Rasmussen’s Sunday polls, and PPP’s tweets about the evolution of their samples. If confirmed by other pollsters, there’s a chance that Romney’s impressive bounce might prove short-lived.

Read more: http://www.tnr.com/blog/electionate/108344/ominous-sign-romney-in-todays-gallup-numbers#

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Potentially Ominous Sign For Romney In Today’s Gallup Numbers (Original Post) kpete Oct 2012 OP
Nate also has POTUS up so... bamacrat Oct 2012 #1
Yep. BlueCaliDem Oct 2012 #10
Up where? regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #30
Bye, Mittens! thelarge Oct 2012 #2
and Romney is going on CNN tonight. RDANGELO Oct 2012 #3
Latest Breaking News (Forum) AFD Oct 2012 #6
Romney only goes on CNN when he's in hair-on-fire crisis mode... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #16
Their internal polls must show what the tracking polls do. Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #19
Yep, that he's slipping....and isn't it typical of narcissist Romney to... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #21
Perhaps they realize that Romney's lies and flip flopping during the first debate Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #22
More Willard! Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #35
thanks for that, will try to watch it wordpix Oct 2012 #40
Ooooooooh, noooooooooooo Mister Bill!!!! MADem Oct 2012 #4
whatever will they do? CitizenPatriot Oct 2012 #27
Willard's lies caught up to him Berlum Oct 2012 #5
I know right? The first debate determines the outcome of an election... LW1977 Oct 2012 #7
for gawds sake barbtries Oct 2012 #8
I'm sorry, I refuse to believe people "like" Romney JohnnyRingo Oct 2012 #9
I know of a few Repugs who sat out the last election who are now with Romneyboy. Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #12
One note however... titaniumsalute Oct 2012 #11
Hopefully the results of the debate will be like that girl you picked up at the bar,.,.,. Vietnameravet Oct 2012 #13
What a great, great analogy! CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #17
More like that guy you let go home with you from the bar. nolabear Oct 2012 #23
Was that you? Who has a $50 limit on their credit card? 12AngryBorneoWildmen Oct 2012 #28
Seriously?? Vietnameravet Oct 2012 #31
that is such a perfect analogy renate Oct 2012 #32
Funny, to hear DU'ers tell it, Obama is doomed, we're all doomed, best to just give up. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #14
Anyone who says that isn't thinking... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #20
Those who are saying that don't know Cha Oct 2012 #25
lulz at game over man. Robeysays Oct 2012 #36
CNN - the new FOX rtracey Oct 2012 #15
I have a bit more hope for CNN... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #18
Uh oh--DU Cave invaders won't like this one Kingofalldems Oct 2012 #24
shit PD Turk Oct 2012 #26
what I think happened ginnyinWI Oct 2012 #29
I've been expecting a slow reaction to Romney's lying. tclambert Oct 2012 #33
7.8 ffr Oct 2012 #34
The write as if every poll was reliable Coyotl Oct 2012 #37
Great way to start the day. wtmusic Oct 2012 #38
This makes a lady with Cancer feel so much better! Kteachums Oct 2012 #39
Hey ! This means another 'I did not say that' video - soon to post. toby jo Oct 2012 #41
One comparison is an interesting gauge PATRICK Oct 2012 #42

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
30. Up where?
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 06:15 PM
Oct 2012

538 dropped Obama's odds to 71.4%, down from 74.8 %yesterday and 78-something% two days ago.

Still, if this information holds up, Obama's odds are likely to improve over the next week.

RDANGELO

(3,432 posts)
3. and Romney is going on CNN tonight.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:27 PM
Oct 2012

There is no way he would be going on CNN if he thought he had the upper hand.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
16. Romney only goes on CNN when he's in hair-on-fire crisis mode...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:49 PM
Oct 2012

Romney is terrible in interviews. Also, he clearly avoids interviews because he can be asked hundreds of questions that would cause him to unravel (his tax returns, his plans to voucherize medicare, his debate lies, the 47 percent comment, etc.). There are enormous potential pitfalls to doing a CNN interview.

He must really be running scared.

If this was a guy who handled big interviews well, it would be less of a gamble. However, Romney tends to not do so well in interviews. He avoided the Sunday talk shows for months--even in the Republican primary. This is a guy who likes to be a bully (and apparently a liar) behind a podium. He doesn't like to be challenged.

You can bet, as you said, that Romney no longer believes he has the upper hand.

Also--I think his "stellar" debate performance gave him some unearned confidence. He might feel a bit emboldened right now because he erroneously believes that America is in love with him right now. He might be in reckless mode.

Let's hope he unravels and stumbles on CNN for all the world to see. Would love it.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
21. Yep, that he's slipping....and isn't it typical of narcissist Romney to...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:59 PM
Oct 2012

...believe that the answer is...MORE ROMNEY!!!

They just need to see MORE of me! They loved me during the debate. And now they want more!

I'll give them more then!

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
22. Perhaps they realize that Romney's lies and flip flopping during the first debate
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 05:00 PM
Oct 2012

may come back to haunt him in the following weeks.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. Ooooooooh, noooooooooooo Mister Bill!!!!
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:31 PM
Oct 2012

There's a little cottage industry of gleeful doom-and-gloomers who have been smearing turdish negativity across this board that will be sorely disheartened by this news. Those who delight in seeing Obama on the ropes will have to find a new line of bullshit to prosecute!

CitizenPatriot

(3,783 posts)
27. whatever will they do?
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 05:55 PM
Oct 2012

Most fun watching them tell people that they were blind Obama bots who refused to accept the UTTER FAILURE AND DOOM of Obama, even tho the internals of the polls showed right away that Romney did not make gains where he needed to and it was a short term bounce.


Berlum

(7,044 posts)
5. Willard's lies caught up to him
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:35 PM
Oct 2012

Americans greatly dislike the lies Romney, Ryan, and the other Republicans so glibly spout.

LW1977

(1,232 posts)
7. I know right? The first debate determines the outcome of an election...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:36 PM
Oct 2012

....Just ask President Mondale, President Perot and President Kerry.. Oh wait..

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
9. I'm sorry, I refuse to believe people "like" Romney
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:41 PM
Oct 2012

I'd also question the scenario where a likely voter would watch the debate and say "I was going to vote for Obama, but now I'm going with Romney". What kind of wishy-washy citizen is going to do that? Is this the type that changes toothpaste every other week because they saw a new commercial that promises "a brighter smile and fewer cavities"?

Still, when it was McCain four years ago I could understand why some people liked the candidate. I'm sure he loves his country, is generally personable, and has a lengthy record of public service, but if someone now tells me they really like Mitt Romney and they think he'd be a great leader of the country, I call them a racist liar. Romney is simply a vote against Obama.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
12. I know of a few Repugs who sat out the last election who are now with Romneyboy.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:51 PM
Oct 2012

I have many problems with John McCain. That fact does not negate his superiority when compared against Romney. As you said, he has along record of public service. McCain also won the first debate based upon his true beliefs.

For those Repugs who voted for Bush twice, sat out 2008, and are now voting for Romney, they are casting their vote against Obama, against the black man. That is telling of their character.

ABC poll finds Obama's numbers on the rise:
http://www.politicususa.com/obama-favorability-soars-romney-remains-popular-nominee-1980.html

 

Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)
13. Hopefully the results of the debate will be like that girl you picked up at the bar,.,.,.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:25 PM
Oct 2012

seems really exciting the first night but after the thrill ( or alcohol) wears off you realize YIKES!! you need to get out FAST!!

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
17. What a great, great analogy!
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:52 PM
Oct 2012

Very astute analogy there--comparing Romney to the girl you pick up in a bar.

I love that. A great editorial/op-ed could be written with that theme, for sure!

Let's just hope that Obama (and Biden on Thursday), do the equivalent of going into that dark bar--and flipping on the lights---for everyone to see the real ugliness!!!

We've all been there...

nolabear

(41,936 posts)
23. More like that guy you let go home with you from the bar.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 05:19 PM
Oct 2012

You know, the one who told you all those things that sounded SO good even though you could've sworn you heard him talkIng to his buddies earlier and sounding like a jerk. But he was so forceful, and he swore you'd be better off with him, that he knew people and would treat you and your family with nothing but respect. And then when you were alone he screwed you, called you a whore, took your wallet and went back to the bar to run up a tab on your credit card and tell his friends how you we're beneath him. That guy.

28. Was that you? Who has a $50 limit on their credit card?
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 05:55 PM
Oct 2012

Just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
14. Funny, to hear DU'ers tell it, Obama is doomed, we're all doomed, best to just give up.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:28 PM
Oct 2012

Game over man, GAME OVER!

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
20. Anyone who says that isn't thinking...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:56 PM
Oct 2012

There is still so much time left.

Obama is a fighter. I would say that he does his best work when he is in fighting mode.

I think we will see a big change in Obama.

Remember how Obama was during the primary with Hillary Clinton?

'Nuf said.

Cha

(296,875 posts)
25. Those who are saying that don't know
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 05:33 PM
Oct 2012

shit about politics. But, they do know how to set their hair on FIRE.

 

Robeysays

(673 posts)
36. lulz at game over man.
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 12:48 AM
Oct 2012

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This is exactly what they sound like. bill paxton from aliens.
 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
15. CNN - the new FOX
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:33 PM
Oct 2012

CNN is becoming another Fox news. Ashley Banfield seems to lean repub, and Wolf Blitzler seems just to lean..... Romney will get the easy questions like ABC and David Gregory on NBC.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
18. I have a bit more hope for CNN...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:54 PM
Oct 2012

Everyone hates Blitzer because he challenges both sides. He also lets both sides spew their talking points. So both sides are never happy with him. However, I think he does go after people and I don't think he likes to be known as the kow tower who allows politicians to remain unchallenged.

If it is Blitzer--I think we can expect that he may go after Romney. It's so easy!!! And of us could interview Romney and make him wet his pants! All you have to do is ask him basic questions about the lies he told during the debate. It's low-hanging fruit people--easily picked.

Ohhhh..I hope Romney gets his just desserts with this CNN interview.

And Ashley Banfield is a lefty for sure!

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
26. shit
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 05:52 PM
Oct 2012

That Pew poll the other day did everything but walk up to houses with confederate flags in the front lawn and knock on the doors and Rmoney couldn't even pull 50% with that crowd. The polls aren't worrying me right now.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
29. what I think happened
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 06:03 PM
Oct 2012

Nobody likes Mitt. Then Debate One happens, and he looks good to the media punditry. The average RW Repub doesn't understand the talk about economics, but since the punditry thought Mitt won, they perked up and thought to themselves that maybe he could win after all.

Repubs love to vote for and be on the side of the winner, even if they personally don't like the candidate. So they start responding positively when polled.

Then the excitement dies down, and with it, Mitt's approval ratings. Some voters might even have listened to all the lies being debunked. So they respond negatively.

In short, the bump was entirely a creation of the media. And no substance.

tclambert

(11,084 posts)
33. I've been expecting a slow reaction to Romney's lying.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:38 PM
Oct 2012

The immediate takeaway was he looked OK during the debate. But as people start going over the things he said, they'll start saying, "Wait a minute, WTF?" It may take a while for it to sink in. But do you really want to vote for someone who lies THAT much and changes major policy positions from day to day? Sooner or later, someone will put together a video of Romney debating Romney debating Romney debating Romney and make it clear he doesn't really stand for anything.

Kteachums

(331 posts)
39. This makes a lady with Cancer feel so much better!
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:34 AM
Oct 2012

Everyday those polls show Mitt gaining ground I am worried. I need Obama to win for my health. Go President Obama!

PATRICK

(12,228 posts)
42. One comparison is an interesting gauge
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:03 AM
Oct 2012

of many polar opposites and what real effect it has on elections.

Mondale makes major damning speech promising new taxes. Regan is a shoe in with most press support or acquiescence although major rumblings about reality and mental competence run silent run shallow. Reagan stumbles scarily through first debate while rational and energetic Mondale pretty well clobbers him.

The aftermath is more supportive of the President but worried. Real polls do not move. Minds already made up. Mondale sees the handwriting on the wall and lies and really pitiful forays into sloganeering that seem to have defeated the ready to self-destruct Gary Hart offer no hope for his cause. He looks defeated and Haggard at second debate while Reagan looks "speeded" up all the way to an incomplete finish. The happy media pounds the nails in the coffin.

Now armed with media blank checks and a blanked out record(even as he speaks contradictions are put "behind him&quot a self blasted 47% Romney rides the first debate that only matters in a vague sort of contest way. Voters minds are equally still set in stone. Only this time the President is competent and not a real loser, the other side utterly energized by lying and sloganeering and the media happily taking their side.

Where was the media fear of losing election ratings and ad revenue then? Whatever the excuse they bow to the right, to put it most politely. This has become an interesting comparison in reversal and how powerful lies and the fraudulent corporate news community are in actually changing sensible minds.

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