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Mon Sep 28, 2020, 04:03 PM

Trump campaign sues to block mail-in ballot rule changes

Source: ABC News

RALEIGH, N.C. -- President Donald Trump's campaign committee and the Republican National Committee sued Saturday to block North Carolina election officials from enforcing rule changes that could boost the number of ballots counted in the presidential battleground state.

The Republicans’ lawsuit claims a new system adopted by the State Board of Elections will allow for absentee ballots to be cast late and without proper witness verification, “which invites fraud, coercion, theft, and otherwise illegitimate voting.”

The elections board on Tuesday issued new guidance allowing mail-in absentee ballots with deficient information to be fixed without forcing the voter to fill out a new blank ballot for November's general election.

The change means absentee voters who don’t provide complete information on their envelope about a witness who saw them fill out the ballot won’t have to complete a new ballot and locate another witness. A voter will just have to turn in an affidavit confirming they filled out the original ballot.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-campaign-sues-block-mail-ballot-rule-73287822?cid=clicksource_4380645_1_heads_hero_live_headlines_hed

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Reply Trump campaign sues to block mail-in ballot rule changes (Original post)
groundloop Sep 28 OP
Statistical Sep 28 #1
mac56 Sep 28 #2
mwooldri Sep 28 #3
bluestarone Sep 28 #4
diverdownjt Sep 29 #18
bucolic_frolic Sep 28 #5
Bengus81 Sep 28 #6
Illage Vidiot Sep 28 #7
SergeStorms Sep 28 #15
stillcool Sep 28 #16
Firestorm49 Sep 28 #8
Thekaspervote Sep 28 #9
BumRushDaShow Sep 28 #10
klook Sep 28 #11
Karma13612 Sep 28 #13
Escurumbele Sep 28 #12
Karma13612 Sep 28 #14
AllaN01Bear Sep 28 #17
apnu Sep 29 #19

Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 04:06 PM

1. The modern Republican party can no longer win nationally if all/most voters can vote. nt

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 04:06 PM

2. They can't win a fair fight.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 04:09 PM

3. Says the party who rigged the NC 9th District...

... by harvesting mail in ballots from likely Democratic voters and not turning those ballots in.

NC SBOE picked up on this by noticing a pattern - far fewer ballots that were sent out were returned.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 04:13 PM

4. The party of stop the vote!

These are THE PARTY OF STOP THE VOTE!!!

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 29, 2020, 06:23 AM

18. Let's use our words properly shall we....?

It's not stop the "vote".

It's "stop the opposition from voting"

It's one party rule for them...Fascism.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 04:27 PM

5. Fear the government that fears your ballot /nt

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 04:32 PM

6. Tell Trump and the RNC that we'll take a hard look at this in a few months.........

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 04:35 PM

7. Slap on a Mask and VOTE IN PERSON

 

These people did. Anthony Fauci's gonna do it. Who am I not to follow their lead?

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Response to Illage Vidiot (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 06:00 PM

15. I already have my absentee ballot.

I'm considering voting in person, which in my state is perfectly legal. In New York you only need a witness if you can't write your own name for some reason. They check the signature on the absentee ballot with the signature on record by the voter. I don't know why any state would require someone to fill out their ballot in front of a witness.

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Response to Illage Vidiot (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 06:11 PM

16. no thanks. They don't want me voting by mail...

so that's the way I'll vote.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 04:36 PM

8. If your vote didn't matter, they wouldn't work so hard to suppress it.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 04:51 PM

9. All of these suppress the vote suits by repukes, none have been decided in gop favor

Even when the judge was a dotard appointee

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 04:54 PM

10. These people don't even know that there is a federal law that allows this

It was passed almost 20 years ago (HAVA - Help America Vote Act), which was sponsored by a Republican, and that includes these provisions -

H.R.3295 - Help America Vote Act of 2002 107th Congress (2001-2002)

Sponsor: Rep. Ney, Robert W. [R-OH-18] (Introduced 11/14/2001)
Committees: House - House Administration; Judiciary; Science; Government Reform; Armed Services | Senate - Rules and Administration
Committee Reports: H. Rept. 107-329; H. Rept. 107-730 (Conference Report)
Latest Action: 10/29/2002 Became Public Law No: 107-252. (TXT | PDF) (All Actions)
Roll Call Votes: There have been 9 roll call votes

[snip]

Title III: Uniform and Nondiscriminatory Election Technology and Administration Requirements - Subtitle A: Requirements - (Sec. 301)

[snip]

Creates an exception for a State or jurisdiction that uses a paper ballot voting system, a punch card voting system, or a central count voting system to meet such requirement by establishing a voter education program specific to that voting system that notifies each voter of the effect of casting multiple votes for an office and providing the voter with instructions on how to correct the ballot before it is cast and counted. Requires the voting system to: (1) produce a record with an audit capacity for such system; (2) be accessible for individuals with disabilities in a manner that provides the same opportunity for access and participation as for other voters; (3) provide alternative language accessibility pursuant to the Voting Rights Act of 1965; (4) comply with established error rate standards; and (5) operate according to a uniform definition of what constitutes a vote.

(Sec. 302) Provides for provisional voting by individuals who declare that they are registered to vote in a Federal election in a jurisdiction but who are not on the official list of registered voters or are otherwise alleged to be ineligible. Requires that: (1) such individuals be permitted to cast a provisional ballot; (2) the ballot be promptly verified and counted if determined to be valid under State law; and (3) the voter be able to ascertain whether the vote was counted, and, if the vote was not counted, why it was not counted.

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https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-congress/house-bill/3295

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 05:03 PM

11. Even Georgia lets you vote absentee without a witness signature.

North Carolina is one of only 12 states with this idiotic requirement. Ridiculous. Voting rules should be the same for every state!

Thanks to the ACLU for their work on this case.

https://www.wxii12.com/article/nc-requires-one-witness-signature-for-mail-in-ballots/33283157#

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Response to klook (Reply #11)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 05:25 PM

13. This is what I was thinking as well.

On both counts.

They are making a big deal because it’s a swing state.

I am so fed up with this I could scream.

It is criminal that they actually try whatever means necessary to restrict voting.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 05:11 PM

12. The lack of patriotism I see is so disheartening

When I here the words "trump's campaign" it hits me hard because I understand there are a group of people who do not care for their country, they are there supporting a traitor, a cheater, and all the ugly things that trump represents and is. I know that if I were working for his campaign that I would have resigned a long time ago, no matter how unintelligent you are, you have to understand that you are working for a traitor, a person who is damaging the country, who only has his self-interest in mind.

Its not that difficult to understand, is it?

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Response to Escurumbele (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 05:30 PM

14. Brad Parscale represented his campaign

For quite some time. I guess you could say he was the face of it.

The Brad that beats on his wife, embezzles money, is armed to the teeth.*

Yea, the Trump campaign is a beacon of all that is good.



* I purposely omitted the part about the mental health issue because that certainly is not a voluntary act. I hope he gets the help he needs. And he should stay away from stressful stuff, probably for the rest of his life.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 08:29 PM

17. i wish we could just skip over october and go straight to november.

wait , id still want to do halloween. my fav day of that month.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Tue Sep 29, 2020, 07:47 AM

19. Oh look! Conservatives, AGAIN, trying to limit votes at the polls.

What they've always done.

Conservatives in the South cooked up the 3/5 rule and the Electoral College.

Conservatives cooked up Jim Crow and poll taxes.

Conservatives, to this day, fight for poll taxes, voter purges, and reduce the number of polling stations.

Conservatives, want the voting process as complicated to enroll and perform as possible.

Conservatives, you can ask any one you want, believe only "property owners" should be allowed to vote.

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