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Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:38 PM

Postmaster general says postal service can't return mail-sorting machines

Source: The Hill

Postmaster General Louis DeJoy said U.S. Postal Service (USPS) mail-sorting machines dismantled earlier this year would not be put back together, according to a report from Bloomberg.

The postmaster general stated that the old machines were stripped for parts to improve or repair other sorting machines.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/news/518107-postmaster-general-says-postal-service-cant-return-mail-sorting-machines



This fits the definition of treason in the US Constitution, because by doing this, Trump and DeJoy are levying war against one or more states.

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Reply Postmaster general says postal service can't return mail-sorting machines (Original post)
PatrickforO Sep 24 OP
sakabatou Sep 24 #1
TreasonousBastard Sep 24 #2
LiberalArkie Sep 24 #11
TreasonousBastard Sep 24 #13
LiberalArkie Sep 24 #15
TreasonousBastard Sep 24 #16
Frustratedlady Sep 24 #3
DENVERPOPS Sep 24 #17
Blue Owl Sep 24 #4
iluvtennis Sep 24 #20
lastlib Sep 25 #32
RKP5637 Sep 24 #5
msongs Sep 24 #6
jorgevlorgan Sep 24 #7
bluestarone Sep 24 #8
aeromanKC Sep 24 #9
Lonestarblue Sep 24 #10
onetexan Sep 24 #14
marble falls Sep 24 #12
LiberalFighter Sep 24 #18
Evolve Dammit Sep 24 #19
keithbvadu2 Sep 24 #21
DeminPennswoods Sep 24 #23
keithbvadu2 Sep 24 #25
DeminPennswoods Sep 24 #27
reggaehead Sep 25 #33
DeminPennswoods Sep 25 #39
PatrickforO Sep 24 #28
scarletwoman Sep 24 #30
MichMan Sep 25 #36
PatrickforO Sep 25 #37
MichMan Sep 25 #41
PatrickforO Sep 25 #43
bucolic_frolic Sep 24 #22
intrepidity Sep 24 #24
BlueIdaho Sep 24 #26
nwliberalkiwi Sep 24 #29
area51 Sep 24 #31
NCjack Sep 25 #34
still_one Sep 25 #35
mahina Sep 25 #38
mahina Sep 25 #40
VarryOn Sep 25 #42
maxrandb Sep 27 #44

Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:40 PM

1. DeJoy has engineered this, trying to get Trump to win

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:41 PM

2. So buy some new ones, dickhead.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:16 PM

11. I would imagine they are custom built.

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #11)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:19 PM

13. No doubt some are custom installations. So buy some new custom installations.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #13)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:26 PM

15. I would imagine at some time congress needs to fund new sorters. The pictures I have seen

look like they have been hay-wired together for many years.

Not take up for the postmaster, but it is common to retire a piece of equipment to supply the parts for others.

The wireline telephone industry has been going through that for several years after Nortel went belly up. Nortel built probably most of the wireline telephone switches. A lot have been salvaged to supply parts (at a premium) to working switches.

So the same thing might be going on at some of the post offices.

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #15)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:30 PM

16. Right, but like a lot of things, that should be taken up by congress-- but won't be.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:42 PM

3. I'll bet you a dime to a donut the USPS employees will tell you a different story.

He is as big a liar as Trump. There were over 700 sorters in the end, weren't there?

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Response to Frustratedlady (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:31 PM

17. A previous article

said workers were re-installing them, but suddenly realized that the optical scanner units had been removed from all of the sorters and intentionally crushed. With out the scanners, the machines were useless, and no new scanner units were available to replace the smashed ones. Someone obviously knew what to do to render the sorter/scanners worthless........

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:42 PM

4. DeJoy needs to be RETURNED TO SENDER or better yet, CANCELLED

n/t

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:44 PM

20. Exactly. nt

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 12:40 AM

32. POSTAGE DUE.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:44 PM

5. Sounds like a totally bullshit story to me! n/t

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:47 PM

6. his minions will be out there supporting his position soon nt

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:48 PM

7. Contempt of court couldn't be more obvious

Fix it, buy new ones or go to jail. It is pretty simple.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:54 PM

8. WELL i hope the judge at the very least asks for

FUCKING PROOF!!! If this asshole is lying then stuff it to him!! PERJURY!!!!!

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:03 PM

9. Judge should demand to see the work orders

You know other sorting machines were not worked on with refurbished parts.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:10 PM

10. A Biden AG needs to charge DeJoy with malicious destructionof federal property.

Along with all those new managers he hired who carried out the orders. I see this destruction as no different from violent people breaking the windows of a federal building. Such people get arrested.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #10)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:23 PM

14. i can see the Con's pardoning him before the lame duck period is up

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:18 PM

12. I bet a contempt citation would magically get a bunch of them back on line.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:34 PM

18. Get him for perjury.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:39 PM

19. Treason.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:20 PM

21. Surely there must be a cost-benefit analysis to make such a business decision. Let's see it.

Throwing away mail sorting machines and going back to manual labor.

Surely there must be a cost-benefit analysis to make such a business decision. Let's see it.

How USPS Sorts Mail

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #21)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:34 PM

23. This isn't as crazy as it sounds

Often times gov't equipment is out of production. The only way to fix it is to cannibalize other old or decommissioned equipment. There's never usually money, or enough money, allocated to replace all the equipment with new, so you end up with a mish-mash. I saw that with military aircraft and their spare parts. I don't think the post office is really much different when it comes to managing its equipment.

TBH, I think downsizing sorting equipment has been in the works for awhile what with mail volume falling and package mailing increasing. This wasn't something DeJoy just decided on his own. The bureaucracy just doesn't work that fast.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #23)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:47 PM

25. Then there would still be a cost-benefit analysis.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #25)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:53 PM

27. I'm sure there is paperwork and probably budget

submissions backed up with the appropriate analysis. That's just the way the federal funding request process works.

A FOIA to the post office would very likely shake all this information loose. Don't know why no has tried this.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #27)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:48 AM

33. It has gone to court

And the argument for it rejected. Maybe you would like to try again.

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Response to reggaehead (Reply #33)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 12:45 PM

39. A FOIA went to court?

nt

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #23)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:00 PM

28. It is the timing that stinks, though, isn't it?

There is a difference between doing it two months before a national election that a sitting president is trying to sabotage, and doing it next year after the election is done.

In addition, the postal service would be fine if it wasn't for the 2006 Republican 'Postal Accountability Act.'

Basically that piece of legislation forces the USPS to take $5 billion off the top every year to fund pensions for workers they haven't even hired yet. Or at least that's what the Republicans SAID it was for.

What it was really for is to cripple the USPS so it could be privatized as part of the neoliberal agenda, and for good measure bust one of the most powerful unions still extant.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #28)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:46 PM

30. Bingo! "...cripple the USPS so it could be privatized as part of the neoliberal agenda, and for

good measure bust one of the most powerful unions still extant."

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #28)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 11:32 AM

36. That 2006 law passed both the House and Senate

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Response to MichMan (Reply #36)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 12:34 PM

37. Yeah, but this was drafted and signed BEFORE the Dems took over the House and Senate both.

At the time, we had a Republican White House, a Republican Senate and a Republican House.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #37)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:32 PM

41. Yes but it passed unanimously by consent

There wasn't a partisan split in the votes in either chamber

Might have been a bad law in retrospect, but everyone voted in favor at the time. Bush was claimed to veto it without the prefunding portion, but it was still passed by consent. Maybe everyone just wanted to go on vacation and rushed it through, don't know.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_Accountability_and_Enhancement_Act

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Response to MichMan (Reply #41)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 10:55 PM

43. This is why winning this election and turning this country deep blue

won't be enough. We have to stay involved and hold these people accountable once we send them to DC.

Seriously. Because I get so tired of being taxed without any representation. What I mean by that is this: Individual taxpayers such as you and me pay $0.86 out of every dollar the US government collects in income taxes. Corporations only pay $0.06. Go back to 1960, and that ratio is more like 45/35. Basically we are totally out of balance fiscally.

Add to this the fact that we have so many special interests and lobbies in Washington, not to mention the military- and prison-industrial complexes, that the Congress tends to pass stuff that doesn't help us at all.

A great example is the new Space Force. However you might feel about the romance and glamor of a space force, I've got to say that healthcare would be much better for me and my family.

Then, when someone has the temerity to try and pass something that will actually benefit us, the right wing noise machine activates and all of a sudden they are a commie socialist that is going to dismantle the suburbs and open the borders.

For once, I want to see the tax money I pay in to this government, which is supposed to be of, by and for the people, to be used for programs that actually make my life better instead of stuff that doesn't help me at all.

This Postal Accountability Act is a classic example. ALEC probably wrote it, or some other right-wing think tank. And they had debate, maybe, and then passed it by acclaim. Now look what we have - a bunch of Republican clowns talking about how the USPS is inefficient and can't manage its cash flow. Then you get crony-traitor DeJoy in there dismantling machines and all of a sudden we have some Republican-caused problems cropping up in battleground states.

Makes you want to puke.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:31 PM

22. I bet three of us could have one operational by noon tomorrow

What a lying sack of ****!

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:36 PM

24. There had better be a serious, deep investigation into this

We're blue areas disproportionately affected? Even if not, it''s massive ratfuckery.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:51 PM

26. I'll bet the next Postmaster General can figure out how to do it.

DeJoy needs to be decommissioned and sold for parts.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:35 PM

29. No Joy with Dejoy!!!

Dejoy and his wife a both as corrupt as can be!!!

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Thu Sep 24, 2020, 10:14 PM

31. Postal service reduction in sorting capacity:

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:15 AM

34. He destroyed public property. He has to reach into his pocket and pay for replacement

machines and damages (e.g., overtime for manual sorting). Our lawyers need to hit him where he hurts -- in his pocket book.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 05:28 AM

35. Hopefully when we win we will have to undo what this POS, and the rest of the thugs have done to

undermine our country


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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 12:41 PM

38. It's good he has money. We can sue his socks off.

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 01:30 PM

40. Which is almost certainly a lie

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:45 PM

42. I'm starting to believe we need...

To focus on encouraging in-person voting. Sure, mail-in voting should be encouraged for those that need it. I’m just concerned that if our voters fail to receive ballots for whatever reason (nefarious or otherwise), they’ll be too afraid to head to the polls if it’s too late to receive a ballot.

Maybe two weeks out or so, there should be an ad campaign asking “Got your ballot yet? No? Then you need to vote in person.” Someone more creative than me can make that more catchy!

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Response to PatrickforO (Original post)

Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:36 AM

44. I hope he knows how to operate a lisence plate machine.

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