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kozar

(2,029 posts)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 04:08 PM Jul 2020

'Multiple victims' reported shot as armed militias face off at Louisville police brutality protest

Last edited Sat Jul 25, 2020, 04:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Daily Beast

According to Jessie Cohen of WHAS11, at least two attendees at a planned protest in Louisville were shot and taken to the hospital as rival armed militias faced off and police stood by.

As Cohen tweeted, “We just watched two people be taken onto stretchers at Baxter square on 12th and Jefferson. Metro safe has confirmed reports of shootings & that there are multiple victims. We heard the noises when people scattered to get behind cars, & to take a knee.”


According to a report at the Daily Beast, the protest against police brutality resulted in a stand-off between “the Not F**king Around Coalition—an all-Black armed militia founded by Atlanta-based rapper and DJ John ‘Jay’ Johnson,” and members of the conservative Three Percenter militia group.


An updated report from MSNBC claimed that the shooting was “accidental” and three members of the NFAC were wounded.



Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/multiple-victims-reported-shot-as-armed-militias-face-off-at-louisville-police-brutality-protest/



And these weren't Trumps boys, he got his civilians on civilians

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'Multiple victims' reported shot as armed militias face off at Louisville police brutality protest (Original Post) kozar Jul 2020 OP
Whoa, like the race war PatSeg Jul 2020 #1
Not predicted by the right, set in motion by the right with their racist policies. nt iluvtennis Jul 2020 #23
Self-fulfilling prophecy PatSeg Jul 2020 #33
What is "three percenter"? They use 3% of their brain? louis-t Jul 2020 #2
Refers to the supposed 3% that were druggies in the 50's. rickford66 Jul 2020 #9
No TheProle Jul 2020 #30
Probably right. Fill me in. rickford66 Jul 2020 #31
They claim only 3% of the population picked up arms in the Revelution. marble falls Jul 2020 #37
So the present "Militias" should be the 0% ers rickford66 Jul 2020 #38
Pretty close to truth. Here's 3%ers marching in Charlottesville: Hoyt Jul 2020 #10
Wouldn't want to get between those 3%ers and a pork chop Zorro Jul 2020 #20
My first thought... tavernier Jul 2020 #22
HAH! zanana1 Jul 2020 #60
or a bowl of gravy. nt Hotler Jul 2020 #62
I'd like to take these lardasses on a 12-mile force march Yeehah Jul 2020 #36
It comes from the Revolutionary War where only 3% actually took up arms against the British Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #12
You are correct. Lasher Jul 2020 #24
Right... SkyDaddy7 Jul 2020 #52
Militant right-wingers who think their strength is far greater than their numbers. Mister Ed Jul 2020 #42
White supremacists mercuryblues Jul 2020 #57
Here is the Daily Beast link blogslut Jul 2020 #3
Paywall nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #5
And it begins... Freedomofspeech Jul 2020 #4
Possibly the only way we're going to get sane firearms control. TygrBright Jul 2020 #6
From the Louisville Carrier...3 Accidently Shot..at link below (non-life-threatening injuries) Stuart G Jul 2020 #7
Friendly fire? . . . Journeyman Jul 2020 #8
Yes, "beyond fucking stupid" ...a kid picks up a loaded gun, shoots his brother or sister....that is Stuart G Jul 2020 #13
I would tell them to put an expiration date on the 2nd amendment JonLP24 Jul 2020 #27
Sounds great, so when are you thinking we could be there? ahoysrcsm Jul 2020 #54
Good luck disarming legal, law abiding black americans ansible Jul 2020 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm Jul 2020 #59
Sounds like the bullet ricocheted NickB79 Jul 2020 #11
Well that's one less thing to worry about LeftInTX Jul 2020 #15
Kickin' with disgust! Faux pas Jul 2020 #14
It was an accidential discharge LeftInTX Jul 2020 #16
Well Bannon, Miller and the Storm Front people definitely wanted PatrickforO Jul 2020 #17
This is the outcome of our failed gun policies with a boatload of racism thrown in. Vinca Jul 2020 #18
One of their own members accidentally shot the others madville Jul 2020 #34
And why every Tom, Dick and lunatic shouldn't be able to own a weapon. Vinca Jul 2020 #43
Putin, Miller, Bannon, Prince, Gingrich just had a collective orgasm. Feel free to add names Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #19
Not Melania. She's a professional. No orgasm for her. keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #21
She is not human as we know it. Complicit liar and grifter who was brought into the web via Epstein Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #32
First time i've heard about the NFAC group onetexan Jul 2020 #25
The 3%ers are Trump's boys JonLP24 Jul 2020 #26
The locals are saying it was accidental. kyburbonkid Jul 2020 #28
dear lord wheelinanddealin Jul 2020 #29
Freikorps rampaging on the streets of the USA Yeehah Jul 2020 #35
OP title is inflammatory and should be modified or removed. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #39
This is Latest Breaking News - the poster had to use the headline from the source posted csziggy Jul 2020 #46
Thanks, csziggy. I didn't notice it was from LBN. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #47
I figured that - you've been here long enough to know the rules csziggy Jul 2020 #48
If you handle firearms like a wreckless idiot. Crowman2009 Jul 2020 #40
Right. Sounds like the NFAC needs to stop fucking around with guns. Dr. Strange Jul 2020 #51
As Donald Smiles Zephaniah Jul 2020 #41
This is alarming... jimlup Jul 2020 #44
Yeah. Igel Jul 2020 #49
Yep! jimlup Jul 2020 #56
Where are the dotard goons? Oh...gosh I forgot their white. No need for law and order there Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #45
fortunately, the reality is not as inflammatory as the OP RussBLib Jul 2020 #50
bears watching llashram Jul 2020 #53
Why did Raw Story use a headline that forms an inaccurate picture of what happened? Sapient Donkey Jul 2020 #55
"Why did Raw Story use a headline that forms an inaccurate picture of what happened?" Steelrolled Jul 2020 #61
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
10. Pretty close to truth. Here's 3%ers marching in Charlottesville:
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 04:43 PM
Jul 2020
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________________

From what I am reading, so far, it appears the shooting today was an accidental shooting. Truthfully, going to a protest while armed ought to be illegal.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,788 posts)
12. It comes from the Revolutionary War where only 3% actually took up arms against the British
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 04:44 PM
Jul 2020

It is of course a label much favoured by the hard militant right wing.

The Southern Poverty Law Center categorizes the Three Percenters as an "anti-government" group.[6] Some Canadian experts consider the group the "most dangerous extremist group" in Canada.


Lasher

(27,500 posts)
24. You are correct.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:56 PM
Jul 2020

The group's name derives from the disputed claim that only three percent of American colonists took up arms against the Kingdom of Great Britain during the American Revolution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Percenters

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
52. Right...
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 03:08 PM
Jul 2020

If I'm not mistaken the actual % was north of 15%!!(I think)
...Like many racist organizations trying to hide behind BS ideas that they're simply "Patriotic Groups" proudly & BRAVELY defending the Constitution & homeland these knuckleheads, the so-called 3%ers just happen to form in reaction to America electing the 1st African American POTUS.

...What a coincidence!!!

Mister Ed

(5,896 posts)
42. Militant right-wingers who think their strength is far greater than their numbers.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 05:14 AM
Jul 2020

I believe their name is a reference to their oft-cited claim that, during the American Revolution, only about 3% of the population actually took up arms against British rule. They figure that, although they may be few in number, they can have a similarly great influence on the course of events.

'Course, that's what all terrorist organizations figure. And sometimes, alarmingly enough, it proves to be true.

TygrBright

(20,733 posts)
6. Possibly the only way we're going to get sane firearms control.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 04:28 PM
Jul 2020

Lots of skeery-looking black folks with big-ass gunz.

I'm not saying it's a good thing. But reality is what it is.

sadly,
Bright

Stuart G

(38,359 posts)
7. From the Louisville Carrier...3 Accidently Shot..at link below (non-life-threatening injuries)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 04:31 PM
Jul 2020
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2020/07/25/louisville-shooting-accidental-shots-fired-injures-3-nfac-protest/5510892002/

LOUISVILLE, Ky. — Shortly before 1 p.m. Saturday, three people were struck by gunfire when someone’s gun discharged while participating in the NFAC demonstration at Baxter Park.

The group was gathered in the park preparing to march downtown to 6th and Jefferson. Two individuals were wheeled off on stretchers by medics, another had her arm treated and another appeared to have his hand treated.

All three victims went to the University of Louisville Hospital with non-life-threatening injuries, Louisville Metro Police Chief Robert Schroeder later confirmed in a news release.

"All involved are members of the NFAC and there are no outstanding suspects," Schroeder said. "This is a tragic situation that could have been much worse. I encourage anyone choosing to exercise their Second Amendment rights to do so responsibly."

Stuart G

(38,359 posts)
13. Yes, "beyond fucking stupid" ...a kid picks up a loaded gun, shoots his brother or sister....that is
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 04:46 PM
Jul 2020

also..."beyond fucking stupid"...How many times has that happened?

or something similar.....like ...."Friendly fire?"...your words not mine.....
Guns, guns, and more guns.....& more guns.........

....I honestly believe that if we could talk to Washington, & Jefferson and told them about what horror the
2nd Amendment has given us in modern times,,,,the two of them, plus Franklin, would do everything
possible to remove it forever and forever..They were some of the smartest people around and
in no way could see this stupidity in the distant future..
...It was meant because we didn't have an army, and we needed
to have weapons so we could defend this country from outside forces...That is it, and that is all...

Yes, Jefferson, Washington and Franklin would have figured out something. Each one of them was smarter than all the Republicans in Congress. That you can take to the bank.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
27. I would tell them to put an expiration date on the 2nd amendment
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:06 PM
Jul 2020

No slavery & everyone is created equal.

ahoysrcsm

(787 posts)
54. Sounds great, so when are you thinking we could be there?
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 04:33 PM
Jul 2020

2030?
2040?
2050?

I'm thinking it will need to be sometime after we stop executing Black Americans without due process.

After voting rights are restored, and all Americans can vote without waiting in long lines.
After gerrymandering is abolished.

Need I go on?

PS, gun control is great, but lets remove the "Arms" from the biggest "gang" in america, the police.

Response to ansible (Reply #58)

NickB79

(19,113 posts)
11. Sounds like the bullet ricocheted
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 04:44 PM
Jul 2020

Possibly hit the concrete sidewalk and sprayed fragments. That would explain how 4 people were injured but none killed.

madville

(7,397 posts)
34. One of their own members accidentally shot the others
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 08:50 PM
Jul 2020

Someone didn’t know how to safely handle a firearm it looks like.

keithbvadu2

(36,362 posts)
21. Not Melania. She's a professional. No orgasm for her.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:54 PM
Jul 2020

Not Melania. She's a professional.

I had to spell out the whole word 'professional'.

The abbreviation would have been taken accurately.

kyburbonkid

(251 posts)
28. The locals are saying it was accidental.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:09 PM
Jul 2020

An accidental discharge. And people wonder why the push for basic gun control? Having said that, it was a hell of march by these guys expressing the freedom to open carry in our populated city.

Yeehah

(4,524 posts)
35. Freikorps rampaging on the streets of the USA
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 09:20 PM
Jul 2020

I suppose it was inevitable. Empires collapse from within.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
39. OP title is inflammatory and should be modified or removed.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 11:25 PM
Jul 2020
At least three people were wounded when a firearm was accidentally discharged Saturday afternoon as the NFAC was gathering in Baxter Park. MetroSafe officials tell WLKY that three people were transported by ambulance.

Sources tell WLKY that a firearm accidentally discharged, wounding individuals who were nearby. Reports indicate that one person was shot in the chest, another in the leg and one had a graze wound on the arm.

Demonstrators remained peaceful as paramedics tended to the wounded.

See: https://www.wlky.com/article/big-protests-expected-downtown-saturday-heres-everything-we-know/33419557

There was no "face-off" between groups, as it remained peaceful. We hope it stays that way.

KY

csziggy

(34,120 posts)
46. This is Latest Breaking News - the poster had to use the headline from the source posted
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:05 AM
Jul 2020

Better, they should have gone to the source that Raw Story got their information from. Although their article does not provide a link, they cite WHAS11.

Here are the WHAS11 stories:


Heavily armed militia NFAC join protesters in downtown Louisville calling for justice for Breonna Taylor, AG responds
Dressed in all black, carrying assault rifles, the militia marched from Baxter Park to Metro Hall where Grandmaster Jay gave speech demanding justice for Breonna.

Author: WHAS11 Staff
Published: 2:14 PM EDT July 25, 2020
Updated: 11:53 PM EDT July 25, 2020
Facebook Twitter

LOUISVILLE, Ky. — Members of the Georgia-based Black militia NFAC, which stands for "Not F**king Around Coalition” came to demand justice for Breonna Taylor who was shot and killed on March 13.

Dressed in all black and carrying assault rifles, the militia marched from Baxter Park in the Russell neighborhood to Metro Hall, where leader Grandmaster Jay gave his speech and demands.

Prior to the march three members of the group was injured at the park when a gun accidentally fired. Louisville Metro Police (LMPD) confirmed the shooting as accidental but also warned that it could have been worse.

During his speech in front of Metro Hall, the group spokesperson Grandmaster Jay warned the Attorney General to get to a decision in the Breonna Taylor case. Members of the group met with Attorney General Daniel Cameron earlier this week. Saturday's march was part two of their process, the group confirms.

More, including video that begins without prompting: https://www.whas11.com/article/news/investigations/breonna-taylor-case/everything-we-know-about-the-planned-protest-in-louisville-saturday/417-a204dbdf-ef2c-4b04-8830-94043ef144a2


Here is their story just about the shooting:

'This is a tragic situation that could have been much worse' | 3 injured in accidental shooting at NFAC militia staging area
LMPD confirmed the shooting was accidental as three people were sent to the hospital with non-life threatening injuries.

Author: WHAS11 Staff
Published: 1:21 PM EDT July 25, 2020
Updated: 2:58 PM EDT July 25, 2020

LOUISVILLE, Ky. — LMPD has confirmed that at least three people were injured in a accidental shooting at Baxter Park in the 300 block of 12th St.

According to LMPD, three victims were sent to the hospital as a result of a discharge from a member of the NFAC demonstration.

All of the members of involved are affiliated with the NFAC and there no outstanding suspects, police say.

In a statement, LMPD interim chief Robert Schroeder said, "This is a tragic situation that could have been much worse. I encourage anyone choosing to exercise their Second Amendment rights to do so responsibly."

The Russell neighborhood park is where members of the NFAC militia gathered ahead of their Justice for Breonna Taylor protest march into downtown.

More, including same warning about video: https://www.whas11.com/article/news/local/two-rushed-to-hospital-after-reported-gunshots-at-nfac-militia-staging-area/417-4b48929b-f95c-4455-9822-4387bf22f470

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
47. Thanks, csziggy. I didn't notice it was from LBN.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:25 PM
Jul 2020

I always go to local news sources directly, which for here in Louisville is WAVE, WLKY, WHAS and WDRB.

Far too many times, sources like Raw Story sensationalize their headlines or simply don't read enough to get the full context of each story, and this is a good example.

IMO, headlines like that one are just fodder for the right-wing to use on social media against peaceful protests.

Still, I feel it's a very bad idea for protesters to be carrying guns regardless of their political leanings. Observing guns is an instant turn-off for many members of the public who are potential supporters of a protest.


KY........

csziggy

(34,120 posts)
48. I figured that - you've been here long enough to know the rules
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:39 PM
Jul 2020

I hate seeing Raw Story articles cited here, same as tweets. Why not follow the links from each and get closer to the original sources?

I do a lot of genealogical research and try to drill down to original sources for all my information. I'm thrilled when I find a scan of the original indenture from 1685 for one of my ancestors. Many are satisfied by a listing in a compilation that only tells me the first listing of that individual being in New Jersey in 1685 with no indication of how they know he was in NJ or what documentation there is for that claim.

Same for political sources - the closer I can get to an original source - interviews, video, etc. - the happier I am.

 

Zephaniah

(31 posts)
41. As Donald Smiles
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:24 AM
Jul 2020

Or, more accurately, as Vladimir pulls pulls the correct puppet strings to make Donald smile.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
44. This is alarming...
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 07:58 AM
Jul 2020

The fuel is in place. This situation forms the kindling. All that is needed now is the lighted match.

Igel

(35,192 posts)
49. Yeah.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:49 PM
Jul 2020

Both sides brought the gasoline in jerry cans.

One side hurt itself, though. People were really eager to jump to an entirely wrong conclusion based on early, preliminary information and group affiliation.

That, too, is gasoline, but a tanker truck with a spray hose. I'd rather be around the NFAC folk.

RussBLib

(8,984 posts)
50. fortunately, the reality is not as inflammatory as the OP
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 02:16 PM
Jul 2020

you take what you get

we all have to be on the lookout for provocative media. with so many fakers and false actors on the stage, knowing who to believe and trust becomes a real exercise.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
53. bears watching
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 03:22 PM
Jul 2020

you just know trump loves this...this is what he's been enabling with his racist BS.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
55. Why did Raw Story use a headline that forms an inaccurate picture of what happened?
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 05:16 PM
Jul 2020

Anyway, can't people just keep their guns at home?

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
61. "Why did Raw Story use a headline that forms an inaccurate picture of what happened?"
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 09:48 AM
Jul 2020

Why do lawyers make misleading statements in court? It's how they make a living.

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