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Mon Jul 13, 2020, 06:47 PM

Justice Department releases Stone clemency grant after inquiry from judge

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Source: ABC News

The Justice Department on Monday made public the official order from President Donald Trump granting clemency to his longtime adviser and friend Roger Stone after a federal judge who oversaw Stone's criminal case raised questions about the the scope of the president's controversial action.

In an order Monday, D.C. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson called for the Trump administration to provide her with a copy of Trump's executive order granting Stone clemency, and "whether it involves the sentence of incarceration alone or also the period of supervised release."

Jackson said her order followed questions that were specifically raised by the U.S. Probation Office, and ordered the government to submit the order by Tuesday -- when Stone was originally set to begin his 40-month prison sentence at a federal corrections institution in Alabama.

But Scott Anderson, a fellow in Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution, argued that any attempts to impose limits on the president's constitutional pardon power could prove fruitless.






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Reply Justice Department releases Stone clemency grant after inquiry from judge (Original post)
groundloop Jul 13 OP
Thomas Hurt Jul 13 #1
groundloop Jul 13 #3
liberalmuse Jul 13 #2
dweller Jul 13 #4
Xipe Totec Jul 13 #5
groundloop Jul 13 #9
eppur_se_muova Jul 13 #6
Rural_Progressive Jul 13 #7
eppur_se_muova Jul 13 #8
reACTIONary Jul 13 #16
C_U_L8R Jul 13 #10
NCjack Jul 13 #11
aggiesal Jul 13 #12
Maeve Jul 13 #14
BlueIdaho Jul 13 #15
bucolic_frolic Jul 13 #13
Nitram Jul 14 #17

Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 06:54 PM

1. What was to stop the DOJ from ginning up a version that covers that issue.

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 06:56 PM

3. Absolutely nothing.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 06:54 PM

2. This is fucking criminal.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 06:58 PM

4. was the ink still wet ?



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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 06:59 PM

5. Not dated? - NVM, 2nd page.

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:25 PM

9. Edited original post to include page 2. (OOPS)

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:02 PM

6. Why the Hell can't they use the modern spelling of "diverse" ?

"Divers" are people who jump into water.

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Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #6)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:05 PM

7. So that's not a typo

that's actually an arcane form of the word? Weird.

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Response to Rural_Progressive (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:08 PM

8. Evidently, it's not actually the same word, to my surprise.

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Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #8)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:39 PM

16. diverse means various. I think they are the same word. nt

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:36 PM

10. The sharpie

Kinda caps it off with quite a kkkindergarten touch. What a doofus.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:36 PM

11. If Bill Barr knows that Trump acting to protect himself, he is required

to charge him. If Jerry Nadler establishes this, the House should proceed to impeach Barr and Trump.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:40 PM

12. What's with the Sharpie pen? Does he not use anything other than a Sharpie? ...

Even the month and date are written with a Sharpie!

Also, when this pResidency is completed, there has to be changes made to the clemency and pardons by any President.

Any current sitting President should NOT be allowed to grant clemency or a pardon, to anyone guilty of committing a crime that benefits the current sitting President.
In this case; "Lie for me and I'll set you free!"

This basically opens the door to Presidential corruption until that door is closed
(i.e. change clemency and pardons).


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Response to aggiesal (Reply #12)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:05 PM

14. Little fingers need big crayons

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #12)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:12 PM

15. He wants to make sure

His name is the biggest thing on the page. Yes, he is that fragile.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:12 PM

13. I read today

that Barr advised against commuting the sentence.

Constitutional pardon power? Pardoning a co-conspirator is equivalent to pardoning oneself. Several articles made that point today.

And saying "look at me! I didn't talk, so pardon me!" is .............. obstruction? Quid pro quo?

In my neighborhood it'd probably be called a shakedown.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Tue Jul 14, 2020, 10:35 AM

17. Trump's "signature" resembles the pattern a seismograph creates during an earthquake.

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