Redskins to retire team name Monday; new name to be revealed later

[greyl]

Source: Washington Post

The Washington Redskins plan to announce Monday morning that they will change their team name, three people with knowledge of the situation confirmed Sunday night. The team is not expected to reveal a new name until a later date.

Monday’s anticipated announcement comes after the organization released a statement July 3 saying it would be undertaking what it called a “thorough review” of the team’s name; multiple people familiar with the process have said that it would result in the name being changed. In an interview July 4, Coach Ron Rivera — who is working with owner Daniel Snyder to choose a name — said he hoped the new name would be in place by the start of the 2020 season. Others have said it will be revealed as soon as within two weeks.

Two people with knowledge of the team’s plans said Sunday that the preferred replacement name is tied up in a trademark fight, which is why the team can’t announce the new name Monday.

Sports Business Journal was first to report Sunday night that the announcement of the name’s retirement would come Monday morning.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/07/12/redskins-retire-team-name-monday-new-name-be-revealed-later/

[47of74]

1. about fucking time

Does it make me a bad person if I've already got the microwave popcorn popped and ready for the furious rage-tweeting that will result from this?

[Proud liberal 80]

2. Yeah

Waiting for the conservatives that have already “boycotted” the NFL because of the players kneeling to say that the are “boycotting” the NFL.

[SnowCritter]

39. What 47of74 said!

But my popcorn won't be of the microwave variety.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

3. I wonder why a new name would be tied up in a trademark fight?

Does that mean they are trying to co-opt a name some other team is already using?

I just hope they don't stick with the Native American theme and try to become the Braves or the Warriors, or even a specific tribal name.

I am not Native American myself, so perhaps my thinking a tribal name, perhaps the Potomacs, wouldn't be a good idea. Maybe that would be just fine. However, something otherwise neutral that does recognize the geographic location would be good.

[OnlinePoker]

4. It could be a name from a team in another sports league. n/t

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

32. Redskins could change to Red Sox or Red Wings?

They could change the name to Washington Lady A, but may run into copyright issues.

"Warriors" is a fine, meaningless, generic name that seems to offend nobody. So my money's on that name.

[greyl]

6. Only if they're trying to get Warriors, which is inferior to Redwolves and Red Wolves.

Redskins may have to battle Washington trademark squatter

https://247sports.com/Article/Washington-Redskins-may-have-to-battle-Washington-trademark-squatter-for-name-change--149081198/

Washington trademark squatter adds to his portfolio
Posted by Mike Florio on July 12, 2020, 12:20 PM EDT

As of the posting of the FOX5 story in May 2015, McCaulay had registered for trademark protection on the following Washington-based names: Americans, Bravehearts, Federals, Forces, Founders, Gladiators, Monuments, Natives, Pandas, Pigskins, Red-Tailed Hawks, Renegades, Sharks, Veterans, and Tribe. McCaulay told FOX5 that he had spent $20,000 to secure the various trademarks.

A Sunday search conducted by PFT of the USPTO’s public trademark database revealed that Phillip Martin McCaulay (it would be one hell of a coincidence if it wasn’t the same guy) has recently filed applications for the following trademarks: Washington Redtails (July 7 and July 5), Washington Monuments (July 6), Washington Veterans (July 6), Washington Renegades (July 6), Washington Red-Tailed Hawks (July 4), and Washington Americans (June 18).

Other related trademarks applications have been filed in recent weeks by Richard Garrison of Los Angeles (Washington Braves, July 5); David Woods of Alexandria, Virginia (Washington Freedom Fighters, July 5), F1rst World Apparel of Santa Clarita, California (Washington War Hogs, July 5), Raymond Luchi of Santa Rosa, California (Washington Radskins, July 4), and David Howard of Rockville Centre, New York (Washington Potomacs, July 3).

Baseball’s Washington Nationals claimed the name “Washington Senators” in 2008, per the USPTO database. Before the Montreal Expos became the Washington Nationals in 2005, the Washington Senators relocated to Texas and became the Rangers in 1972.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/07/12/washington-trademark-squatter-adds-to-his-portfolio/

Link to tweet

[rpannier]

25. Not sure

I pretty sure one of the reasons given by pro teams to change the names is that the team is stuck with reimbursing clothing makers for the stock they cannot sell
I think Charlotte or New Orleans (or both) had this issue
Maybe this has something to do with it
Or, what happens when they change the name?
Can other people sell items with the original logo and name?
One I know of comes from a small college that changed its name from Siwash to Prairie Fire.
Some people made shirts that read 'Old Siwash' and bore the original logo
The question was "Does the college still own all the rights or did they forfeit them?"

[rusty quoin]

5. The Washington Nations

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

49. I like that.

[athenasatanjesus]

8. Orcs

A football team needs to go by that name, and Orcs work well with Hogs.

[Codeine]

47. Replace the Tomahawk Chop with a stadium yelling

“WAAUGHHHH!”

[KS Toronado]

9. how about The Washington Palefaces?

[rpannier]

26. Caucasians.

The logo already exists
And some place sells them
Would be easy
https://sports.yahoo.com/black-panther-challenge-creator-looks-raise-awareness-washington-caucasians-shirts-224016536.html

Though the one for Cleveland is still the best

https://gawker.com/ignorant-white-people-cant-get-enough-of-these-caucasi-1614503516

[murielm99]

31. Do you remember a Saturday Night Live sketch

with Franken and Davis, where the Native Americans were the dominant culture? They were playing sportscasters. They announced team scores by teams like the Palefaces and Whities. They discussed how the white people were beginning to object to the bigoted team names. They just could not understand why that was a problem.

[flibbitygiblets]

45. I never saw that--will go look it up

Franken was so ahead of his time.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

50. Yes, I saw that one.

I also seem to recall that in that sketch they had teams with names that are also ethnic slurs. A while back I did a brief search for that sketch, but couldn't find it. I have a feeling that it simply isn't out there, because it would come across as extremely offensive today, even with the set up context.

[murielm99]

51. That's right.

I think one of the teams was called the Polaks.

Somebody must have that sketch.

[KS Toronado]

58. I looked and could not find it on Youtube

[murielm99]

59. Somebody must have old tapes of

original SNL programs.

[LuvNewcastle]

10. The Washington Pages or

The Washington Interns

[SledDriver]

11. The Washington Lobbyists

[RockRaven]

12. Money talks. So does extreme embarrassment amongst the oligarchs...

It took all three minority owners trying to sell their stakes in the team but not being able to find buyers PLUS the stadium sponsor (a company founded by one of those minority owners) declaring that they'd take their name off the stadium irrespective of the contractual situation (because of pressure from hundreds of investment funds to their corporate board/executives). Plus the team desperately wants a new publicly funded/subsidized stadium but the public sentiment is way, way against that for numerous reason, amongst which -- and easiest to change -- is the racist name/theme.

Dan Snyder is an irredeemable P.O.S. He's doing the right thing, after decades of absolutely refusing to ever do so, only because he was forced to by just the right combination of pressures, i.e. for the wrong reason.

[soldierant]

13. Thank Fedex for that.

It was their push - as a sponsor - that made them consider it at all.

[FakeNoose]

40. That's IT! The Washington Couriers

It's perfect

[soldierant]

57. LOL!

[generalbetrayus]

14. I'm thinking it'll be the name I've suggested here before: Washington Warriors

"In the July 4 interview, Rivera said he and Snyder had come up with two names that Rivera really liked. He did not reveal the names but said he wanted to confer with Native American and military organizations to make sure that the new name properly honored both."

That way you can honor both Native Americans and the military. but the new mascot will be military-oriented. Also alliterative, and can be fit into the beloved R......s fight song. All the team has to do is work it out with the Golden State Warriors of the NBA.

[olddad65]

15. My guess is they want to buy the name 'the Washington Generals'

From the Globetrotter outfit.

[Yavin4]

16. The Washington Federals.

Here come the Feds!

[greyl]

18. as they smuggle a poached killer whale through the backwoods of Silver Spring. nt

[Jimbo S]

60. That was the name of the old USFL team

[Yavin4]

61. Guess who destroyed the USFL

Donald Trump

[Jimbo S]

62. But hey, he got his $3!

[Celerity]

17. Red Wolves

[IronLionZion]

42. I like red wolves, and that big Awoo!

it would be nice to hear more howling

[StevieM]

63. Agreed!! Red Wolves would be perfect!! (eom)

[grantcart]

19. The Washington Inspector Generals lolol

Trump would have cow

[rpannier]

20. My only concern is that they are talking about tying their new name to the military in some way

Almost anything they choose will be better than what it is now
But, I'm not sure fawning over the military is such a great thing
And I am a veteran

[greyl]

21. Agreed, hoping it's red and having to do with wolves. nt

[IronLionZion]

48. Washington Confederate Statues

and the motto can be "You can't erase history"

[Greg K]

22. Perhaps Washington Swamp Monsters

[madamesilverspurs]

23. They could take a cue from University of Northern Colorado c2002 --

It was my privilege to hear about this from one of the team's creators, Solomon Little Owl.





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[Zambero]

24. Looks like they'll become the No-Skins until further notice

[Aussie105]

28. The Pink Skins?

Or, the 'pink and a dash of brown skins'?

No, maybe not.

[Major Nikon]

29. This didn't age well

[underpants]

34. That's a great part - Snyder yet again looking like a fool

[underpants]

33. Most likely- Warriors or Redtails

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213723876

[bucolic_frolic]

35. The Railroad

[Miigwech]

36. Maybe change the name to "Washington Blackface?" snark

Being forced to change and not having done so because it is the proper thing to do, is not admirable. They will never truly learn the lesson of why the name change is demanded. One more moment for racist resentment ... will feed the flames of the flaming shit brained shitheads. That's what I see.

[Paladin]

37. Let's see them get really nasty: The Lobbyists. (nt)

[DinahMoeHum]

38. Don't like "Warriors". There's only one DubNation around.

I prefer Red Hawks or Red Tails. Keeps the burgundy and gold colors.




#newrostrong

[IronLionZion]

41. Gridlock, Grifters, Swamp dwellers, Bandits, Looters,

The simplest change would probably be Warriors. Then they don't have too much to change in their logo or songs. And they can always argue with the Golden State Warriors.

[Paladin]

43. Combine all those terms into the obvious: The Lobbyists. (nt)

[IronLionZion]

44. Beltway Bandits could be accurate

[IronLionZion]

46. Washington Redskins Change Their Name To The D.C. Redskins

https://sports.theonion.com/washington-redskins-change-their-name-to-the-d-c-redsk-1819575691

[Steelrolled]

53. If only it were so easy...

Yes, they have got ridden the offensive "Washington". But don't they realize that D.C. stands for District of Columbia, and Columbia is derived from Columbus! It's even worse! Stop the presses!

[IronLionZion]

54. We'll change District of Columbia to Douglass Commonwealth

that last part isn't a joke but is part of the statehood bill since we wouldn't be a district anymore and America already has a Washington state.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

52. I always referred to them as 'The Slurs'

[Pluvious]

55. I like to think that the "Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt" had...

... played at the very least some small role in publicizing and propogating
this cause which they devoted much of a season to

[dawn frenzy adams]

56. I was always troubled by Dan Snyder

Snyder took over the R@dski*s in 1999. Considering that he is Jewish, I just don't understand why he would let this offensive name remain for 21 years.