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Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:11 PM

Trump declares US in 'culture war,' says flying Confederate flag 'freedom of speech'

Source: MSN

As President Donald Trump ramps up rhetoric stoking racial divisions in the country, asked directly to give his personal stance on the Confederate battle flag's place in society, Trump said, for him, it's "very simple -- it's freedom of speech."

"You do what you do, it's freedom of speech. NASCAR can do whatever they want, and they've chosen to go a certain way, other people choose to go a different route, but it's freedom of speech," Trump told Nexstar in an interview Tuesday, on the heels of a controversial tweet appearing to criticize the racing giant for banning the flag.

In a separate interview Tuesday, the president also declared, "We are in a culture war."

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Trump contradicted his own White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, who just the day before, looking to counter reports calling the president's Fourth of July speeches "dark and divisive," said, "This vision is not a culture war."

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-declares-us-in-culture-war-says-flying-confederate-flag-freedom-of-speech/ar-BB16uWHF?ocid=msedgntp



Trump is continuing his crusade to divide our country and spread hate, chaos, death and lawlessness as a path to victory.

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Reply Trump declares US in 'culture war,' says flying Confederate flag 'freedom of speech' (Original post)
TomCADem Jul 8 OP
soothsayer Jul 8 #1
Ahpook Jul 8 #3
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 8 #6
dawg day Jul 8 #8
Drum Jul 8 #12
Drum Jul 8 #11
Berlin Expat Jul 9 #27
PSPS Jul 9 #25
muriel_volestrangler Jul 9 #31
lagomorph777 Jul 9 #34
Stuart G Jul 8 #2
bucolic_frolic Jul 8 #4
moose65 Jul 8 #5
ChazInAz Jul 8 #20
droidamus2 Jul 8 #7
Captain Zero Jul 9 #28
droidamus2 Jul 9 #33
Dem2theMax Jul 8 #9
Woodwizard Jul 8 #10
TomCADem Jul 8 #13
Yeehah Jul 8 #14
TeamPooka Jul 8 #15
keithbvadu2 Jul 8 #16
rpannier Jul 9 #36
Kashkakat v.2.0 Jul 8 #17
orleans Jul 8 #18
Senor Insomne Jul 8 #19
Hoyt Jul 8 #21
flibbitygiblets Jul 8 #22
GulfCoast66 Jul 9 #23
Baked Potato Jul 9 #24
dalton99a Jul 9 #26
alphafemale Jul 9 #29
Aussie105 Jul 9 #30
Harker Jul 9 #32
BlueStater Jul 9 #35

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:19 PM

1. What's he distracting us from?

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:34 PM

3. Doubtful anything

Probably trying to hang on to the few dwindling rubes that still support the POS.

They'll never leave him unless he declares BLM or something similar.

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:40 PM

6. We are dying. Our famlies dying. Our friends are dying. HE IS FAILING THIS COUNTRY!

That's what he's distracting us from.

He's not just a lousy president, he's a lousy human being.

He's a sociopath.

And the Republicans left him in power.

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:43 PM

8. Already worked.

Who is talking about Putin?

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Response to dawg day (Reply #8)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:48 PM

12. Yup

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:47 PM

11. Maybe tomorrow's decision (?) from SCOTUS re his tax records?

Iím sure they have multiple press-release versions at the ready.

Weíre watching choreography....

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Response to Drum (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 02:04 AM

27. I've been wondering

if he got a heads-up regarding the ruling(s) a few days back - and it wasn't good for him. Could explain why he's been melting down on Twitter lately. I think the one that worries him the most is Trump v. Vance, the NY state AG case; even if he managed to swing some kind of Federal blanket pardon*, that of course doesn't cover state proceedings against him.

Guess we'll find out today (9 July 2020) around 16:00 East Coast time....that's when SCOTUS will issue its rulings on the last three cases for this term, and those final three are all about Trump's taxes.

* The scenario would go down like this: Trump loses this November - he resigns, let's say, a week or two before next year's Inauguration Day and has Pence take over as a caretaker President until Biden is sworn in and in return, Pence issues a blanket pardon for Trump.

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:43 AM

25. All the dead and sick people, the crashed economy, his deteriorating health ... and bountygate

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:14 AM

31. That he doesn't care if Americans die, whether from Covid or Russian bounties on soldiers

I think that's the fundamental message Dems need to repeat - "Trump doesn't care if you die. He only thinks about himself. A president must not be allowed to do that."

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 01:20 PM

34. Pretty much every fucking thing he says or does.

His campaign at this point can only hope that nobody is looking at the multiple catastrophes he has inflicted upon this once-great nation.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:24 PM

2. Stupid is Still..."STUPID"..

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:37 PM

4. Straight out of Fundie World

Culture War R.I.P. (1980-2020)

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:37 PM

5. Technically he's right, I guess, about the Confederate flag...

For an individual to decide to fly it on his or her property or festooned from a pickup truck, it is free speech. People can fly it if they want to. However, a government entity flying one or a state or local flag that features it ISNíT free speech.

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Response to moose65 (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 11:20 PM

20. Certainly.

And they can face the consequences of their bonehead actions.
I certainly see burning that rag as free speech.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:40 PM

7. Typical

This is what the Republicans always do when they can't figure out anything else to run on pull out the old 'Culture War' bs. What they haven't figured out is the voting population that still reacts to that crap is shrinking at it pisses of a lot of people to the point they may just get out and vote.

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Response to droidamus2 (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 04:19 AM

28. this and 'Law and Order'

are their two fallback, go-to, since 1968 actually.
The two are related in some symbiotic way as well.
Law and order. + Culture War.
Both reveal subtle and not so subtle racism. Stand in it's place.

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Response to Captain Zero (Reply #28)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 01:14 PM

33. Exactly

Law and order to subjugate the lower classes and the minorities and 'culture wars' to divide the middle and upper middle classes.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:45 PM

9. Remember the movie 'Dave?'

Paging Alec Baldwin.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:45 PM

10. Everything to distract from the covid disaster and the Putin bounties.

He is doing the usual throw everything at the wall distraction technique.

Being called a racist is better than a traitor for the base.

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Response to Woodwizard (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:06 PM

13. States That Voted for Trump May Pay For It With Their Lives due to COVID-19...

...literally:

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:13 PM

14. That's right, Commander Bonespurs....

and your side is going to lose.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:15 PM

15. Freedom of speech yes, embracing traitors is not free of repercussion though

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:20 PM

16. The Confederate flag is so free that it's supporters partner it with the Nazi flag.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #16)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 08:04 PM

36. Most interesting thing about that pic is that there isn't an American flag anywhere

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:34 PM

17. OK, but opposing it is also freedom of speech - it goes both ways. Not sure

where they got the idea that it was a one way street.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:52 PM

18. culture war, not a culture war...

Kayleigh McEnany, don't you get it? donald trump hates you.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:58 PM

19. Pat Buchanan Must be So Proud

 

Don't watch this, I post it as a memento, nothing more.



And I LOVED Molly Ivins' famous takedown: "I liked the speech better in the original German."

BAM!

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 11:22 PM

21. As much as I despise that flag and those that wave it, as long as governments

arenít flying it, I donít think it should be outlawed by government for ignorant white wingers who think itís cool to keep them on their property.

I do think organizations, establishments, parks, etc., can ó and should ó ban it on their property, like NASCAR. And I have no problem with people expressing their distaste with flag-waving deplorables.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 11:23 PM

22. "freedom of speech"...from the guy who calls the press "enemies of the people"

and tried to sue CNN for airing his own, actual words

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:28 AM

23. So is he going to allow the southern Swastika to fly at his rallies?

Because now they are not allowed.

Personally I hope he allows them.

Maybe a bunch at the convention.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:40 AM

24. He should know, he flies the White Flag in front of Vladdy.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:50 AM

26. The traitor has been a clear and present danger to this country since day one.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:04 AM

29. He is going to order it flown atop the White House any day now

Just wait for it

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 06:43 AM

30. Freedom of speech is important . . . .

If it isn't hate speech.

If it isn't rabble rousing speech.

If it isn't degrading, inciteful, derogatory racist/xenophobic banter.

If it isn't made up, non-fact speech.

If it isn't facts distorted into propaganda.

So yes, freedom of speech is important. But the speaker had better choose his words carefully.

It is a freedom that comes with responsibility.

Spouting verbal diarrhea isn't acceptable.



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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 10:11 AM

32. He so desperately wants the "wartime president" label

that he'll force it down our throats somehow.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 01:33 PM

35. I don't think anyone has ever disputed that it's freedom of speech, you miserable dipshit.

So is saying the ďNĒ word. It doesnít mean you should do either.

Take your pathetic straw man and shove it up your ass.

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