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Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:35 PM

BREAKING: Gov. Ducey closes all bars, gyms, movie theaters for 30 days

Source: KOLD TV (Tucson)

TUCSON, Ariz. (KOLD News 13) - Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey has ordered all bars, nightclubs, gyms, movie theaters and water parks to close for 30 days due to the spike in COVID-19 cases.

The start of school was pushed back to Aug. 17, but Ducey said that could change again if the virus spreads more.

Ducey made the announcement during a news conference Monday, June 29. The executive order goes into effect at 8 p.m. Monday.

“This will help relieve stress on our health care system and give time for new transmissions to slow,” Ducey tweeted out.

Read more: https://www.kold.com/2020/06/29/breaking-gov-ducey-closes-all-bars-gyms-movie-theaters-close-days/

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Reply BREAKING: Gov. Ducey closes all bars, gyms, movie theaters for 30 days (Original post)
Ptah Monday OP
Zeus69 Monday #1
Eliot Rosewater Monday #2
dem4evah Monday #8
patphil Monday #3
progree Monday #4
rdking647 Monday #12
mpcamb Monday #5
central scrutinizer Monday #6
flibbitygiblets Monday #7
dem4evah Monday #9
Squinch Monday #10
FloridaBlues Monday #11
rurallib Monday #13
progree Monday #14
Bengus81 Monday #15
Initech Monday #16
regnaD kciN Monday #17
Initech Monday #18
regnaD kciN Monday #21
Initech Monday #22
Strelnikov_ Tuesday #27
bluedigger Monday #19
Strelnikov_ Tuesday #28
ThoughtCriminal Tuesday #29
JI7 Monday #20
wackadoo wabbit Tuesday #24
marlakay Tuesday #25
ThoughtCriminal Tuesday #30
Thekaspervote Monday #23
beachbumbob Tuesday #26

Response to Ptah (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:43 PM

1. Another liberal governor...

promoting fear over the economy!!



(Oh wait...)

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:45 PM

2. By next January this country will be a complete and total shit show...but hey, Hillary gave a speech

once.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 08:02 PM

8. Let's be real ER...

 

it's kind of a shit show now. Thanks RWNJ's...Ducey included. This door jam was all IN on the Crazy Trump Train as recently as late May. Now?

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:52 PM

3. There's an old Pennsylvania Dutch saying...

We get too soon old, and too late smart.

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:54 PM

4. "Does not require restaurants to close, Ducey said". Also

"Ducey also said outdoor gatherings of 50 people or more are banned."

Wondering what the difference between a bar serving food and a restaurant serving alcohol will be.

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Response to progree (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 08:18 PM

12. texas uses percent of revenue to determine bar or restuarant

51% or more from alcohol you're a bar and are closed
less you are a resturant and can operate at reduced capacity

Arizona probably has similar laws

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:56 PM

5. Ducey's a spineless scum! Too little! Too late!

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 08:00 PM

6. Oh look, the horse is gone

Better close the barn door!

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 08:00 PM

7. Huh, I thought increased cases were because of our world-class testing!??

Not so much, I take it?

Somebody's going to get a nasty tweet from trumpleThinSkin (the horror).

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 08:03 PM

9. I prefer trumple...

 

foreskin, but yeah....what you said.

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 08:05 PM

10. They still have 14 days worth of new cases to add to their ICUs, which are at

capacity today, before this has any effect.

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 08:17 PM

11. The virus is out of the barn. Already.

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 08:22 PM

13. How about masks? (ya fricking idiot Ducey)

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 08:25 PM

14. NYTimes: Arizona's surge on a percapita basis is by far the worst

See the little graphs of the 50 states.
By default they are on a per-capita basis so that states can be compared fairly
"All charts are shown on the same scale. "
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

Click on any state's graph to bring up larger graphs and stats for that state, e.g. Arizona
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/arizona-coronavirus-cases.html

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 08:32 PM

15. Oh oh Ducey....might make Donnie mad taking that into your own hands

months too late..................

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 09:06 PM

17. Don'cha just love...

...all these Republican governors who, after making a big point about "re-opening," are now very quietly and diplomatically "re-closing," making sure to phrase it in ways that allow them to deny they're doing so, just "making a small adjustment" to their re-opening plan?


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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 09:16 PM

18. I'm convinced there's nothing we can do to stop the spread now.

We did too little too late and it may not stop until 70% of the country is infected with this thing. It's gonna get worse.

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Response to Initech (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 09:24 PM

21. If "70% of the country is infected with this thing"...

...according to the metrics from the COVID-19 Projections Using Machine Learning model, we're looking at 1,710,507 Americans dead.

We should never have ended the (first ?) lockdown until we had the testing and contact-tracing measures in charge to quickly contain any new outbreak.

To be clear, while I blame Trump and Republican governors first and foremost, I don't exempt Democratic governors from criticism, either. Too many of them (and I include Newsom in California and Inslee here in Washington) set loose metrics that allowed their states to move into reopening once numbers of cases dropped, but didn't require enough in place for testing/contact-tracing. So they, too, reopened before they were ready...and are now seeing the increase in cases we feared without measures to keep it under control.

And, while a second lockdown until we can really get testing/contact-tracing in place nationwide would be the most logical step, I'm near-certain it won't happen. As Chris Hayes pointed out a few days ago, the whole point of the lockdown (which was sure to crash the economy at least temporarily) was to buy us time for the proper testing/contact-tracing measures to be enacted. Now, we're right back at square one, but with the economy already in a severe recession. A second lockdown is going to make that much, much worse (enact one nationwide, and watch the Dow drop to 15,000 and unemployment shoot up beyond 30%), and we know the Republicans in charge will never allow that, or be willing to enact the public-welfare measures needed to even partially cushion the blow. So, most likely, we'll keep seeing these band-aid approaches, where areas of public and economic life will be dialed back for a time until the numbers stop dropping, but without calling it a lockdown or actually telling most non-essential businesses to close (note the closing of bars but not restaurants in this case) or people to stay home. And we all know what half-measures do: just keep us on this roller-coaster indefinitely (or at least until a reliable vaccine is out and enough of the population has been inoculated), at continuing cost to human life. But "FREEEEEEDUMB!!!"...




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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #21)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 09:32 PM

22. Yeah the bad thing is that we opened way too quickly.

And the fucking idiots are the ones who refuse to wear masks and take all the necessary precautions are the ones who are making it worse and will continue to make it worse. The bad thing is that I wish we had a competent president who would lead us through all of this. But I'm afraid that by the time Biden takes office it may be too late to stop the number of dead from getting worse.

This wasn't just a mere pandemic. This is like a real life Skynet - its' arrival was most likely equal parts inevitable preventable, but by unleashing it, it could spell some serious doom for a long time. It will take a lot to fix it, too.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #21)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 08:08 AM

27. We can 'reopen' most of the economy . . if we take necessary measures


Bars (indoor), restaurants (indoor), mass gatherings are out.

Businesses provide PPE for their employees exposed to the public, or in workplaces where employees are exposed to others.

Adequate testing capacity, and most importantly . . contact tracing capacity.

Dedicated COVID wards/isolation units for those that desire to stay away from family during the critical two-week shedding period.

And the simplest part, everyone wear a mask when exposed to others indoors.

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 09:18 PM

19. Sometimes living in the Four Corners sucks.

I'll probably have half of Flagstaff driving by on the highway into Cortez by the weekend.

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Response to bluedigger (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 08:10 AM

28. Beautiful place


Cortez.

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Response to bluedigger (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 05:45 PM

29. If it is any consolation

I was in Flagstaff last Saturday and almost everyone I saw was wearing masks. But what would really matter would be the previous week or two.

As for the rest of the state, we have very low mask compliance but I have seen a huge improvement in the past week.

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 09:24 PM

20. Is he making wearing masks statewide policy ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #20)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:39 AM

24. No. He doesn't have the gonads to do that

He's left it up to the individual cities and counties to mandate masks, if they wish.

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Response to wackadoo wabbit (Reply #24)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:46 AM

25. Our governor in OR just said we all have to wear them

Starting Wednesday. I have been on a local thread where I was one of a few ok with it, most were going nuts.

You can’t even share info from scientists or doctors because they seem to have articles going against wearing them. I wonder if they are real or who these people are endangering people’s lives.

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Response to marlakay (Reply #25)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 05:50 PM

30. I never have time to debunk their BS "Sources"

And I found it doesn't matter to them. Anything that confirms what they want to believe is the truth.

And now the right-wing, Trump-loving governor has the problem of getting them in line after months of convincing them that wearing a mask is in a pandemic is an un-American endorsement of Satan.


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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 10:29 PM

23. And once again, in a month the virus will be magically gone or just not as contagious

Or who knows??

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 07:41 AM

26. Basically starting all over to control but its really too late as people

will just ignore it. Control of a pandemic relies on discipline and self-control. 2 qualities severely lacking in US culture and made worse by a Govt under trump's indifference and incompetence.

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