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Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:02 PM

Three men connected to 'boogaloo' movement tried to provoke violence at protests, feds say

Source: NBC News


NBC News reported last weekend that members of the "Boogaloo" movement were seen at protests in states including Minnesota and Texas, as well as in Philadelphia.

June 3, 2020, 7:12 PM CDT

By Andrew Blankstein, Tom Winter and Brandy Zadrozny

Federal prosecutors in Las Vegas have charged three men alleged to be members of the far-right extremist "Boogaloo" movement with multiple state and federal violations of conspiracy to cause destruction during protests in Las Vegas, as well as possession of Molotov cocktails.

Charging documents say Stephen T. Parshall, aka "Kiwi," 35; Andrew Lynam, 23; and William L. Loomis, 40, all of Las Vegas, were arrested Saturday on a state criminal complaint alleging conspiracy to commit an act of terrorism, material support for committing an act of terrorism and multiple explosives violations. The plot was foiled with help from an informant.

The "Boogaloo" movement, which federal prosecutors describe as a "term used by extremists to signify a coming civil war and/or collapse of society," has been linked to some online posts about protests over the death of George Floyd.

NBC News reported last weekend that members of the "Boogaloo" movement were seen at protests in states including Minnesota and Texas, as well as in Philadelphia.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/three-men-connected-boogaloo-movement-tried-provoke-violence-protests-feds-n1224231

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Reply Three men connected to 'boogaloo' movement tried to provoke violence at protests, feds say (Original post)
Judi Lynn Jun 3 OP
bucolic_frolic Jun 3 #1
Jamastiene Jun 4 #11
oldsoftie Jun 4 #13
Ford_Prefect Jun 3 #2
DrToast Jun 4 #8
appalachiablue Jun 3 #3
IronLionZion Jun 3 #4
Jamastiene Jun 4 #12
IronLionZion Jun 4 #16
Turbineguy Jun 4 #5
Marcuse Jun 4 #6
SergeStorms Jun 4 #7
Talitha Jun 4 #9
Midnight Writer Jun 4 #10
Maxheader Jun 4 #14
Lonestarblue Jun 4 #15
mahina Jun 4 #17
Hestia Jun 5 #18

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:08 PM

1. I wonder how long criminal justice will remain vigilant on cases like these

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:51 AM

11. As long as the news cameras are there to watch them. n/t

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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 4, 2020, 07:52 AM

13. And these days we ALL have cameras. nt

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:20 PM

2. How is Barr going to sidestep this one? Lose the evidence? Say they were exercising 2nd amendment?

Re-write the terms of terrorism statute to say such applies "only when done by non-citizens?"

Why have they only arrested 3?????

The FBI task force who monitor this kind of activity surely has more leads than this.

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Response to Ford_Prefect (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:49 AM

8. They're up on state charges too

Barr canít touch that.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 10:24 PM

3. Beat me by a minute! moving my post on to 'Editorials'

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 11:13 PM

4. But DUers claimed there is no Boogaloo

just like the OK symbol means OK, swastika is a religious symbol, and white sheets mean ghosts.

Just because some symbol or word meant something years ago doesn't mean far-right extremists aren't using it for bad things now. DUers should be able to understand this.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:54 AM

12. Thank you.

I've been trying to get people to understand on here for ages. They just won't. The ones who do want to understand, do. The ones who don't, no matter how much evidence you go look up for them, they keep their heads in the sand. Then there are the ones who demand you go look up all of the information for them but you can tell they are going to refuse to believe it anyhow. I know those types. I refuse to do it for them and waste my time with them. They will refuse to believe it anyhow. You can tell by how many other people do go look up the evidence for them and they still refuse to see the truth.

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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 4, 2020, 09:19 AM

16. Considering how many educated people we have on this board

it seems deliberate. They don't want to accept that these things are happening because it's a scary thought and/or they hope it doesn't impact them personally...yet.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:00 AM

5. These clowns are desperate for a civil war.

They have no understanding of the consequences.

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Response to Marcuse (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:24 AM

7. Right...

that's just stuff the normal American carries around in the trunk of their car. It's like having a spare tire, or a first aid kit. I'm sure they never intended to use any of it.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:54 AM

9. God bless the informant.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:11 AM

10. So, are these guys wealthy? MN, TX, PA? More free time and money than I've ever had.

I wonder how they make their living?

I wonder if our Law Enforcement will be allowed to "Follow The Money"?



That's how they break up Drug Cartels, isn't it?

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 4, 2020, 07:57 AM

14. Over the years..


One of many winger terrorist groups. Now what? A book? Daytime show guests?

The fuckers have been cropping up like fleas on a dog..

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jun 4, 2020, 08:19 AM

15. Groups like this are identical to ISIS.

They have been radicalized via the dark sites on the Internet. They are willing to use violence and murder to achieve their goals. Their goal is a civil war so they can establish a white state, just as ISIS radicalizes young Muslim men to establish their own Islamic state.

These groups should be categorized as domestic terrorists. Unfortunately they use our free speech laws against us, but if we allow these groups to continue to grow, eventually they will be large enough to start a civil war. And they know they have support with Republicans in charge, especially Trump. These instigators have been clever in infiltrating protests and planning to blow things up around protests so that black people will be blamed. State governors could deploy the National Guard, but would Republican governors do that, especially against Trumpís wishes? He hates the protesters.

Barr and the DOJ will do very little because theyíre too busy trying to help Trump get reelected. Iím not sure what can be done, but I think we need some news laws relating to white nationalism. It is hate speech definitely, but the question is how to maintain free speech but deal with groups like this before they kill people.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 4, 2020, 08:11 PM

17. Vanilla Isis

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:31 AM

18. Isn't it ironic -- all these Laws of Unintended Consequences

1. We are not all Penelope Garcia types (Criminal Minds) who grew up with a USB as an umbilical cord. I, personally, wouldn't have a clue as to even get to the Deep Web, other than typing in IP address. After that, poof, done. At this point of my life, I have no desire to learn nor do I want to go there.

2. There have been articles about how the very people who can fight the good fight on the Dark Web are out there and have submitted resume's to help fight the Deep Web but have been turned down for employment (why should they fight for free) because they smoke cannabis. After delving the bowels of hell, can you blame them? Well, seems the bureaucracy can, because, the bosses who go to bat for these people trying to gain employment, someone with a red stamp, stamps "DENIED" on their paperwork and are put into the system for future employment.

3. So, we are left with the rah-rah-sis-boom-bah types, who are the easily swayed types, due to perceived (or unperceived) are the very ones who help our "enemies" (that is such a broad word) because we don't understand their plight. Becoming the very people they were hired to fight.

4. Once Reason has Prevailed, and "we the people" (who make less than a billion a year) can attend and shore up our government functions, laws as no cannabis use if you want employment, need to be overturned.

Joe was very instrumental in setting up the Drug Czar's office and functions and through his persuasion, kept the Federal Laws on Cannabis from being overturned years ago. This is where the VP pick becomes very important - who presides over the Senate. Someone who isn't going to actively work against 60% or more of people wanting the laws to become a footnote of history. Institutional Memory is one thing, Institutional Dinosaur-ism is another.

Back to OP, I would say 70% (giving IQ45 his "base" want to root out the umbrella white supremacy groups and quell them forever, but we've got to give them to the tools to do so. At this point of our lives, cannabis is the least of our worries (alcoholism is a worry) and get on with it. We know the problems, we've just got to break down the barriers to do so.

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