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Sat May 30, 2020, 05:10 PM

KARE 11 Investigates: Records show arrests so far are mostly in-state

Source: KARE-TV

MINNEAPOLIS — In casting blame on those responsible for the worst damage from the riots, local and state leaders attributed it to people not from Minnesota.

But publicly available data does not support those claims, KARE 11 Investigates has found.

“I think our best estimate of what we heard are about 20 percent are Minnesotans, and 80 percent are outside,” Gov. Tim Walz said during a Saturday morning press conference.

“I want to be very, very clear,” Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey said during the press conference. “The people that are doing this are not Minneapolis residents. They are coming in largely from outside of this city, outside of the region, to prey on everything we have built over the last several decades.”

Read more: https://www.kare11.com/mobile/article/news/investigations/kare-11-investigates-records-show-arrests-mostly-minnesotans-as-george-floyd-protests-riots-continue-minneapolis-st-paul/89-73f3e0e8-0664-41d5-8d3e-4467d04da7cb

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Reply KARE 11 Investigates: Records show arrests so far are mostly in-state (Original post)
Jose Garcia May 30 OP
janterry May 30 #1
mzmolly May 30 #3
muriel_volestrangler May 30 #5
Lulu KC May 30 #9
Jose Garcia May 30 #6
Igel May 30 #12
IronLionZion May 30 #2
reACTIONary May 30 #13
IronLionZion May 31 #20
reACTIONary May 31 #22
IronLionZion May 31 #23
reACTIONary May 31 #24
IronLionZion May 31 #25
reACTIONary May 31 #26
IronLionZion May 31 #27
reACTIONary May 31 #28
IronLionZion May 31 #29
reACTIONary May 31 #30
reACTIONary May 31 #36
Jamastiene May 31 #31
reACTIONary May 31 #32
Jamastiene May 31 #33
reACTIONary May 31 #34
reACTIONary May 31 #35
scarletwoman May 30 #4
janterry May 30 #7
scarletwoman May 30 #8
The Magistrate May 30 #10
scarletwoman May 30 #11
killaphill May 30 #14
The Magistrate May 30 #15
killaphill May 30 #16
The Magistrate May 31 #17
killaphill May 31 #18
The Magistrate May 31 #19
LanternWaste May 31 #21
the_sly_pig May 31 #37
Jose Garcia Jun 1 #38
the_sly_pig Jun 1 #39
Jose Garcia Jun 1 #40

Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Sat May 30, 2020, 05:13 PM

1. Both the statement and the data are congruous

He said they are not residents of Minneapolis. They are largely coming from outside the city.

The data merely says they are from the state

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Response to janterry (Reply #1)

Sat May 30, 2020, 05:18 PM

3. Saint Paul

is not represented in the numbers. And the Mayor said from 'outside the city.'

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Response to janterry (Reply #1)

Sat May 30, 2020, 05:23 PM

5. The governor was talking about the state; the mayor about the city (nt)

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #5)

Sat May 30, 2020, 05:54 PM

9. +1 and

I think the numbers of out-of-state were higher in St. Paul.
However, it's been hours since I heard that and I've been glued to the news since then, so I'd recommend checking on that at this point.
I didn't even know about Boogaloo Bois or Rent A Crowd until this afternoon! Learning a lot today.

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Response to janterry (Reply #1)

Sat May 30, 2020, 05:23 PM

6. One prominent person claimed that 80% were from outside the state:

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Response to Jose Garcia (Reply #6)

Sat May 30, 2020, 06:43 PM

12. That would be the OP:

"20 percent are Minnesotans, and 80 percent are outside"

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Sat May 30, 2020, 05:16 PM

2. Suburbs?

There is plenty of racism in the suburbs and rural areas outside the twin cities.

Most of the racist cops live far away from the neighborhoods they patrol. We may have different outcomes if police lived in the neighborhoods they "serve and protect".

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #2)

Sat May 30, 2020, 08:44 PM

13. Why do you think the rioters are racists?

That does not seem probable. What evidence is there for that?

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Response to reACTIONary (Reply #13)

Sun May 31, 2020, 01:20 PM

20. To discredit the peaceful protesters who have legitimate concerns

Racists want to start a racial civil war in America

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #20)

Sun May 31, 2020, 01:34 PM

22. I understand that that would be the motivation....

... what evidence is there that there were any racists who actually did that?

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Response to reACTIONary (Reply #22)

Sun May 31, 2020, 01:51 PM

23. Their online supporters spread racist memes about the riots

to discredit black, brown, and urban liberal protestors and sow divisiveness

Sure, it could be anarchists. Or both.

The fact that it happened in many cities across America makes it seem like it was organized and planned. Racist groups do that online and have long posted plans for a racial civil war. I would hope federal and international law enforcement would monitor deep web activity to investigate who is behind it.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #23)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:12 PM

24. Did any of them show up and participate in the riots?

If so, how many? From where? As near as I can tell, the claims that this is the case have yet to be substantiated.

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Response to reACTIONary (Reply #24)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:19 PM

25. It may have yet to be investigated

Many of the protest leaders have pleaded with the bad guys to stop smashing windows and setting fires. It's not the protestors doing it. It's someone else taking advantage of the situation.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #25)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:23 PM

26. I'm glad they are doing that...

... MLK did the same.

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Response to reACTIONary (Reply #26)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:36 PM

27. For a moment, I thought you were defending the good name of racists

from slanderous accusations

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #27)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:55 PM

28. My interest is in ...

... truth, justice and the American way.



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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #29)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:27 PM

30. Thanks.

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Response to reACTIONary (Reply #13)

Sun May 31, 2020, 04:23 PM

31. Tons. Pay attention.

If you want to keep your head in the sand and expect everyone else to spoon feed you every bit of evidence, just keep your head in the sand. Open your eyes.

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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #31)

Sun May 31, 2020, 04:53 PM

32. I don't think there is any such evidence. Not even a...

... spoonful.

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Response to reACTIONary (Reply #32)

Sun May 31, 2020, 04:54 PM

33. Ok, enjoy yourself.

Don't bother looking. Keep your head in the sand. I have seen enough to believe it, but I'm not doing your legwork for you. A lot of it is posted right here on DU.

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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #33)

Sun May 31, 2020, 05:33 PM

34. You also. nt

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Sat May 30, 2020, 05:19 PM

4. They only had data from 36 arrests.

KARE 11 found that of 36 cases, about 86 percent of those arrested listed Minnesota as their address.
The data, taken from the Hennepin County Jail’s roster, shows that nearly all of the people arrested in likely connection to the riots live in Minneapolis or the metro area. The five cases from outside Minnesota were of people listed as living in Missouri, Florida, Arkansas, Michigan and Illinois.

To be sure, the data is not conclusive and is a small sample size. KARE 11 looked only at the arrests from May 29 to May 30 that were made available on the jail roster as of 11 a.m. Saturday. The records do not say specifically whether a person arrested was connected to the riots and arson. And many of those responsible for the worst destruction escaped apprehension.

Minneapolis Police spokesman John Elder said Saturday afternoon that he believes some of the people arrested have given false addresses.


My bold & underline.

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Response to scarletwoman (Reply #4)

Sat May 30, 2020, 05:26 PM

7. so too soon to tell

this is always the case at times like this.

TY

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Response to janterry (Reply #7)

Sat May 30, 2020, 05:34 PM

8. It's a stupid media trick - put up a bullshit headline before there's any actual information.

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Response to scarletwoman (Reply #8)

Sat May 30, 2020, 06:27 PM

10. That It is, Ma'am

This is one instance where I am inclined to take the local authorities at their word.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #10)

Sat May 30, 2020, 06:42 PM

11. Thank you. I trust our Governor and Mayors and AG - sterling Democrats, all.

They have all talked about the arsonists and disrupters getting organized on the Dark Web and arriving in groups specifically to create chaos and destruction.

I'm a born and bred Minnesotan, grew up in St. Paul, lived in Minneapolis for 20+ years, and now live in a small town about a 100 miles north - this is personal.

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Response to killaphill (Reply #14)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:10 PM

15. That Speaks Well For Their Honesty, Sir




"When the facts alter, I change my opinion. What do you do?"


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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #15)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:14 PM

16. The facts never altered

 

The statements they issued were fiction.

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Response to killaphill (Reply #16)

Sun May 31, 2020, 12:06 AM

17. That Is Unlikely, Sir

Early reports in chaotic situations are often fragmentary, and prove incomplete or inaccurate once everything is in hand and sorted through. There is nothing in the situation which requires imputation of malice.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #17)

Sun May 31, 2020, 12:19 AM

18. Nobody said the statements were malicious

 

"Mayor Melvin Carter blamed inaccurate information given to him during a police briefing."

They were just wrong.

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Response to killaphill (Reply #18)

Sun May 31, 2020, 12:22 AM

19. Which Means, Sir, That He First Stated The Facts As He Knew Them

That is different from saying a statement is fictitious. A person must know a statement is false before he can be said to made a fictitious statement.

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Response to killaphill (Reply #18)

Sun May 31, 2020, 01:31 PM

21. I dig how consistently you keep moving your own goalposts on this one.

Like your OP before this one.

And the OP before that.

And the OP before that.

And the OP before that.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2020, 06:39 PM

37. KARE is 27 minutes

Of puppies, sports, commercials for local business and weather, now claims investigative reporting? I think not. Study the amount of “news” KARE broadcasts. It’s a joke.

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Response to the_sly_pig (Reply #37)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:06 PM

38. Well, their reporting caused ther Governor & Twin Cities mayors to walk back their claims

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Response to Jose Garcia (Reply #38)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:37 PM

39. As across the nation...

Two groups stood out, protesters and provocateurs. Things will settle down and KARE I’ll return to their brainless, inoffensive, “there are fine people on both sides” programming.

In fairness WCCO and KSTP are both the same. FOX is FUX.

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Response to the_sly_pig (Reply #39)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 04:02 PM

40. Fox? KARE TV is an NBC affiliate

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