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Jose Garcia

(2,698 posts)
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 04:57 PM Apr 2020

#FireChrisHayes trends after MSNBC host covers Biden sexual assault allegations

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Source: The Hill

MSNBC host Chris Hayes sparked backlash from the left when he became the first prime-time host on the network to cover a former aide's sexual assault allegations against presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, with the hashtag "FireChrisHayes" trending on Twitter.

The "All-In" host welcomed New York magazine's Rebecca Traister to his program Wednesday night after she penned an essay, titled "The Biden Trap," that was critical of the former vice president for not addressing Tara Reade's allegations in any interviews, thereby leaving Democratic women supporting his candidacy to answer questions about the allegations for him.

Biden has conducted dozens of national and local interviews in recent weeks, but has yet to be asked about the allegations. His campaign denied the allegations in a statement on March 28.

“What this is creating is a kind of a perfect storm where the women who are being asked to support his opponent are now being asked to answer for these charges,” Traister told Hayes. “In part because of the vacuum created by Joe Biden, who is not yet really directly answering these questions, and certainly, not doing what I wish he would, which is to say: ‘Please direct your questions about these allegations to me, and not the women that are out there offering their support to my candidacy.'”

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#FireChrisHayes trends after MSNBC host covers Biden sexual assault allegations (Original Post) Jose Garcia Apr 2020 OP
I felt disgusted listening to her The Blue Flower Apr 2020 #1
Once again, the media is trying to turn a nonstory into a big issue. Lonestarblue Apr 2020 #2
True pandr32 Apr 2020 #4
This is NOT a bad thing! phandancer917 Apr 2020 #5
It is a bad thing. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #23
If that's the case, he should have covered the WHOLE story, not just a few aspects of it. George II Apr 2020 #24
No. This is NOT a story. Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2020 #28
Fair enough.... phandancer917 Apr 2020 #29
The corporate media want Trump in power Miguelito Loveless Apr 2020 #8
don't you know. they have to be fair and balanced JI7 Apr 2020 #9
No Mr Chris 'smug' Hayes is a Bernie supporter. He is trying to overturn the will of primary voters Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #22
With entertainers like Chris Hayes, they are attempting jrthin Apr 2020 #3
Sorry, but DarthDem Apr 2020 #6
Agree.. and now that he "smells blood in the water.." he's all Cha Apr 2020 #14
....................................... still_one Apr 2020 #7
Does she have Stockholm Syndrome towards Putin or something? LisaM Apr 2020 #10
I am not a Chris Hayes fan, but I agree with you Lisa, I don't think he should be fired either, still_one Apr 2020 #11
He needs to apologize or be fired. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #15
I'm glad Chris Hayes is being held accountable on Cha Apr 2020 #17
I saw it. He should be fired. He presented it as if there was no question that she was credible... Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #20
But the Times has now said they did not clear this. oldsoftie Apr 2020 #30
I didn't see it, but then again I don't watch him. In my view if one doesn't like what he says turn still_one Apr 2020 #32
Ari Melber also "covered" this story. hay rick Apr 2020 #12
Maybe if we get the issue "over with" now, Karma13612 Apr 2020 #13
why don't these brave journalists get so force ful with trump ? samsingh Apr 2020 #16
Exactly! Rebl2 Apr 2020 #36
yes, fire him samsingh Apr 2020 #18
Yes, fire him. samsingh Apr 2020 #19
Oh BS. I guess Don Lemon should be fired then. And HuffPost run out of business. Etc. oldsoftie Apr 2020 #21
Don Lemon didn't cover the story with such a blatant bias that Chris Hayes did. George II Apr 2020 #25
I was listening & when I realized he had reached the end of the segment it was a shock! Judi Lynn Apr 2020 #26
I have a reading disorder. OilemFirchen Apr 2020 #27
This is why I stopped watching msnbc after the election kimbutgar Apr 2020 #31
How dare that Scumbag!!! MenloParque Apr 2020 #33
We might not want to hear this Steelrolled Apr 2020 #34
I cannot stand the little preening twerp, never have, only reason I watch a few minutes is because NotHardly Apr 2020 #35
Yes Hayes is as Rebl2 Apr 2020 #38
She needs to read more, specifically the accuser's father's book Joinfortmill Apr 2020 #37
Smartest Boy in the room. BlueIdaho Apr 2020 #39
I tweeted to Hayes: never watch your program agsin. Prof.Higgins Apr 2020 #40
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Apr 2020 #41

The Blue Flower

(5,508 posts)
1. I felt disgusted listening to her
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 05:00 PM
Apr 2020

From all I've read, it's a nonstory. I turned off the tv after listening to her present nothing of value to the story.

Lonestarblue

(10,713 posts)
2. Once again, the media is trying to turn a nonstory into a big issue.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 05:08 PM
Apr 2020

The media is doing the same hand wringing with this story as they did with Hillary’s emails. Biden has already said that the story is not true. So exactly what does the media expect by demanding that he respond to the allegations? He has responded. Tara Reade’s story has enough holes in it to drive a Mack truck through. The mainstream media is already looking for ways to tear Biden down. Harping on this story is not news—it’s giving a voice to someone trying to smear a presidential candidate.

pandr32

(11,817 posts)
4. True
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 05:20 PM
Apr 2020

I'll bet that the plan is to make this a big deal and then compare Joe to DT as equals--both men have been accused. The hope is it would make them equally bad so never mind the allegations against DT.
Horse race.

phandancer917

(145 posts)
5. This is NOT a bad thing!
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 05:22 PM
Apr 2020

Whether we want this or not....this IS A STORY! The trick is to get ahead of it and knock down the lies early.

MSNBC or the RNC -- this is going to get a LOT of airtime. Might as well vet all angles.

Demsrule86

(69,320 posts)
23. It is a bad thing.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:10 PM
Apr 2020

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. If that's the case, he should have covered the WHOLE story, not just a few aspects of it.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:10 PM
Apr 2020

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
28. No. This is NOT a story.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:27 PM
Apr 2020

It is a bogus distraction. Ask yourself who is pushing this tall tale. Her story has been debunked more times than I can count. The inconsistencies, contradictions, and incongruous components of her "story" are incompatible with the ability to believe any portion of her account. You could sail the entire Seventh Fleet through the holes in her story.


We need to stop giving this fabricated invention any more oxygen.

phandancer917

(145 posts)
29. Fair enough....
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:41 PM
Apr 2020

....however, this WILL be a story regardless.

Might as well pour sunlight in to bring out the truth.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,548 posts)
8. The corporate media want Trump in power
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 05:31 PM
Apr 2020

He is good for profits. I would have thought this was obvious by now.

JI7

(89,564 posts)
9. don't you know. they have to be fair and balanced
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 05:32 PM
Apr 2020

with the negative reporting on trump they have to do negative reporting on Biden also.

this includes legitimizing questionable bs .

Demsrule86

(69,320 posts)
22. No Mr Chris 'smug' Hayes is a Bernie supporter. He is trying to overturn the will of primary voters
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:09 PM
Apr 2020

with lies. Sen. Sanders has no part in this. He and VP Biden have worked it out. You should not use your power as a journalist to lie...effectively put your thumb on the scale.

jrthin

(4,859 posts)
3. With entertainers like Chris Hayes, they are attempting
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 05:16 PM
Apr 2020

to Benghazi/what about her emails Biden.

DarthDem

(5,309 posts)
6. Sorry, but
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 05:26 PM
Apr 2020

I've never liked Chris Hayes. He was smugly dismissive of Biden at every opportunity until - whoops! He overwhelmingly became the presumptive nominee. Sorry, Mr. Hayes.

Cha

(300,265 posts)
14. Agree.. and now that he "smells blood in the water.." he's all
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:01 PM
Apr 2020

over it.

I welcome the backlash against his incompetent reporting.

still_one

(93,430 posts)
7. .......................................
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 05:28 PM
Apr 2020

Here is a timeline of events, regarding Tara Reade’s actions toward both Joe Biden:

December 1992 — August 1993 — Tara Reade worked as a Senate aide in Joe Biden’s office.
2009 — Reade commended Biden for actions he has taken against domestic violence.
2017 — Reade repeatedly attacked Putin and Russia on Twitter for election interference and for Russian legislation that legalized domestic violence.
2017 — Reade repeatedly praised Joe Biden through tweets, retweets and “likes” on Twitter. On multiple occasions she boosts him for his work on helping end sexual assault.
2018 — Reade claims she liked Russia since she left Washington DC (Over a decade ago), and praised Putin and Russia over and over again. She also directly praised Putin for his treatment of women in multiple articles.
January of 2019 — Reade first begins talking about her sexual harassment allegations against Joe Biden on Twitter.
March, 2019 — Reade continues to praise Putin.
April, 2019 — Reade comes forward with her original allegations against Biden, but says his actions were NOT “sexualization,” but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a “pretty” lamp that is thrown away when it’s too bright. She also claimed that her story was not “a story about sexual misconduct.”
September 2019 — Reade calls on Joe Biden to be investigated for his dealings with Ukraine.
January, 2020 — Reade continues to praise Vladimir Putin on Twitter.
March, 2020 — Reade comes forward again, this time claiming that Joe Biden did sexually assault her in 1993.
March, 2020 — Reade tells Vox News that she started liking Putin and Russia in 2018 after “watching Noam Chomsky,” but no longer likes Putin after finding out about domestic violence in Russia. (note: in 2018 she claimed to have loved Russia since over a decade ago, and in 2017 she was posting tweets on her account related to Russia’s domestic violence.)

https://medium.com/%40eddiekrassenstein/evidence-casts-doubt-on-tara-reades-sexual-assault-allegations-of-joe-biden-e4cb3ee38460

LisaM

(27,973 posts)
10. Does she have Stockholm Syndrome towards Putin or something?
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 05:34 PM
Apr 2020

i don't think Chris Hayes should be fired over one objectionable guest, but if a DUer can put together this effective timeline in a matter of minutes, it shouldn't be out of Chris Hayes' range to do the same thing. Is he a sloppy journalist?

(Kudos on the timeline, BTW, which I may steal).

still_one

(93,430 posts)
11. I am not a Chris Hayes fan, but I agree with you Lisa, I don't think he should be fired either,
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 05:38 PM
Apr 2020

and he won't be. Obviously this is an emotionally charged issue, which causes folks to say things they don't always mean

The timeline was extracted from the medium link I supplied below, and of course use it where applicable


Thanks


Demsrule86

(69,320 posts)
15. He needs to apologize or be fired.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:02 PM
Apr 2020

Cha

(300,265 posts)
17. I'm glad Chris Hayes is being held accountable on
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:03 PM
Apr 2020

Social Media anyway for his incompetent reporting.

Spreader of Smears on Joe Biden.

Demsrule86

(69,320 posts)
20. I saw it. He should be fired. He presented it as if there was no question that she was credible...
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:05 PM
Apr 2020

and she is not. He went after a legitimate story on the New York Time who had researched it. He was giggling and have a great time. It was disgusting. He needs to go.

oldsoftie

(13,027 posts)
30. But the Times has now said they did not clear this.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:47 PM
Apr 2020

And CBS just did a story on this. Should they ALL be fired? No.
This isnt going to go away until its dealt with and THEN dismissed

still_one

(93,430 posts)
32. I didn't see it, but then again I don't watch him. In my view if one doesn't like what he says turn
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 07:23 PM
Apr 2020

him off or change channels

hay rick

(7,869 posts)
12. Ari Melber also "covered" this story.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 05:42 PM
Apr 2020

Thin line between journalism and complicity on MSNBC.

Karma13612

(4,578 posts)
13. Maybe if we get the issue "over with" now,
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 05:50 PM
Apr 2020

It will be old news by September.

We need to be ready for the October surprise.

Dog!, do I hate politics sometimes!

samsingh

(17,644 posts)
16. why don't these brave journalists get so force ful with trump ?
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:03 PM
Apr 2020

Rebl2

(13,946 posts)
36. Exactly!
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 08:13 PM
Apr 2020

samsingh

(17,644 posts)
18. yes, fire him
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:03 PM
Apr 2020

samsingh

(17,644 posts)
19. Yes, fire him.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:04 PM
Apr 2020

oldsoftie

(13,027 posts)
21. Oh BS. I guess Don Lemon should be fired then. And HuffPost run out of business. Etc.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:07 PM
Apr 2020

because they've covered the story as well.
I picked Biden early on when we started the DU primaries. I never changed. Still havent. But the story is out there & there is a lot of corroboration to go along with it.
Whether we like it or not. It IS a story & ignoring it will bite you in the butt.

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. Don Lemon didn't cover the story with such a blatant bias that Chris Hayes did.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:12 PM
Apr 2020

Judi Lynn

(161,299 posts)
26. I was listening & when I realized he had reached the end of the segment it was a shock!
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:13 PM
Apr 2020

Couldn't believe he let her go on and on and didn't seem remotely concerned without referring to the real picture, and had a totally blank look on his face as if nothing needed to be added. I am certain he was totally "all in" with that version.

She left it hanging at the end as if it throws total suspicion on him if he doesn't give his version of events immediately. She implied he simply looks "guilty" of the preposterous behavior.



Simply stunned. I lost total respect for him, and have enjoyed him all this time until last night.

He treated her as if she has the standing of a well respected journalist.

Horrible, what a damned disappointment,

As mentioned earlier on this thread, an explanation and an apology are due tonight, not a moment later.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
27. I have a reading disorder.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:18 PM
Apr 2020

When a paragraph follows another and completely contradicts the first, I fart uncontrollably. Thankfully, no one was near when I read this:

The "All-In" host welcomed New York magazine's Rebecca Traister to his program Wednesday night after she penned an essay, titled "The Biden Trap," that was critical of the former vice president for not addressing Tara Reade's allegations in any interviews, thereby leaving Democratic women supporting his candidacy to answer questions about the allegations for him.

Biden has conducted dozens of national and local interviews in recent weeks, but has yet to be asked about the allegations. His campaign denied the allegations in a statement on March 28.

kimbutgar

(21,780 posts)
31. This is why I stopped watching msnbc after the election
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 07:21 PM
Apr 2020

They were all in for MF45 and then shocked shocked I tell you he had won. I started watching a bit again during the impeachment. I am so disappointed in Chris Hayes for running this bs story and giving it airtime. Shame on Chris Hayes. That said I might tune in tonight to see what he says and how he defends himself.

MenloParque

(523 posts)
33. How dare that Scumbag!!!
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 07:27 PM
Apr 2020

Fire this motherfucker now!!! Don’t let him get away with this!!! Argghhhh!!!

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
34. We might not want to hear this
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 07:37 PM
Apr 2020

but this will be a good thing for his career.

NotHardly

(1,079 posts)
35. I cannot stand the little preening twerp, never have, only reason I watch a few minutes is because
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 07:53 PM
Apr 2020
Rachael Maddow comes on immediately after he stutter-steps and talks over every guest he ever has had.

Note: I did not hear the piece but I really cannot abide him & his 'low brow' playing at being informed.

Rebl2

(13,946 posts)
38. Yes Hayes is as
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 08:42 PM
Apr 2020

bad as Chris Matthews was talking over his guests. I quit watching Hayes a long time ago, partly for that reason. I did not see his interview last night, but from what I have read it is obvious he is and has always been a Bernie supporter. All he is doing is giving republicans info to use against Joe Biden. If I didn’t know better, I would say he is working for the Trump campaign. Hayes is disgusting.

Joinfortmill

(15,102 posts)
37. She needs to read more, specifically the accuser's father's book
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 08:41 PM
Apr 2020

which details an assault scene eerily similar to the one she accused Biden of. You can't make this shit up, people. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/30/1941523/-Biden-Accuser-Reade-s-Allegations-Match-Scene-from-Dead-Father-s-Novel

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
39. Smartest Boy in the room.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 09:21 PM
Apr 2020

What a disappointment.

Prof.Higgins

(194 posts)
40. I tweeted to Hayes: never watch your program agsin.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 10:43 PM
Apr 2020

Today I watched Dr. Fauci and Bill Gates on CNN while recording Rachel Maddow's program. Hayes epically failed to tell his audience the reasons why major news outlets and some progressive groups have not been willing to give this accusation against Biden a public prominence which it clearly does not deserve. If Hayes or Melber believe this is so deserving of prominence, why didn't they bring this accusation to their viewers attention back during the earlier Democratic Party primary elections?

Omaha Steve

(100,967 posts)
41. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 10:56 PM
Apr 2020

Missing link. Trending hashtags are not LBN.

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