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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 08:57 PM Sep 2012

Kudankulam Nuclear Plant can be stopped if safety concerns are not met, says Supreme Court

Source: The Economic Times

NEW DELHI: The Supreme Court has said the Kudankulam Nuclear Power Plant could face decommissioning if safety concerns of the local people are not met. The remark was greeted with cautious optimism by groups protesting at the plant, who nevertheless stuck to their plans to lay siege to it on October 8.

Hearing arguments of advocate Prashant Bhushan, on behalf of the protesting organizations like the People's Movement Against Nuclear Energy, the court said, "it is a serious matter and we are taking it seriously. Everyone is concerned with the safety of the people around the plant. If we are not satisfied with the safety, we can stop it."

Bhushan had claimed many changes had been made in the Kudankulam plant since 1989, when environmental clearance was last given.

On August 31, the Madras HC had allowed the Nuclear Power Corporation of India to load fuel in the plant's first reactor. At that time, activists opposing the commissioning of the plant challenged the order in SC.

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Read more: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/kudankulam-nuclear-plant-can-be-stopped-if-safety-concerns-are-not-met-says-supreme-court/articleshow/16581989.cms



India should start phasing out nuclear energy, like Germany, France, and Japan.
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Kudankulam Nuclear Plant can be stopped if safety concerns are not met, says Supreme Court (Original Post) bananas Sep 2012 OP
India shouldn't stop construction of nuclear power plants. cosmicone Sep 2012 #1
What............... SILVER__FOX52 Sep 2012 #3
I recommend logic rather than emotion. cosmicone Sep 2012 #4
wrong, 3 Mile Isl. now is known to be a meltdown + there have been many, many "near misses." See: wordpix Sep 2012 #5
I am not advocating it for the US. cosmicone Sep 2012 #7
Nuclear is much more expensive than oil and gas and wind. bananas Sep 2012 #9
Not in India cosmicone Sep 2012 #10
Wind is already cheaper than coal in parts of India bananas Sep 2012 #11
If you think you can run cosmicone Sep 2012 #12
Nuclear is one of the most expensive energy sources - it's "cake", not bread bananas Sep 2012 #8
K&R. So glad to hear it can be stopped! Overseas Sep 2012 #2
"India should start phasing out nuclear energy, like Germany, France, and Japan." greiner3 Sep 2012 #6
 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
1. India shouldn't stop construction of nuclear power plants.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:17 PM
Sep 2012

India cannot afford to supply electricity from expensive natural gas and oil. Coal is indigenous but pollutes badly.

Nuclear power plants are not ideal but they are a path to prosperity for hundreds of millions mired in poverty and disease. For affluent nations like Germany, France and Japan, it is a relatively easy decision -- just eat cake if there is no bread.

SILVER__FOX52

(535 posts)
3. What...............
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:27 AM
Sep 2012

" Can not afford the costs "..............are you kidding ???........try calculating the cost of an extreme nuclear accident, which, statistically will happen. What's that cost now...........you joke !!

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
4. I recommend logic rather than emotion.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 03:31 AM
Sep 2012

At the end of 2011, there were 435 nuclear power plants worldwide with a combined operating history of 14,892 years. There have been only TWO major accidents -- Chernobyl which was due to operator error and Fukushima because of a once in a lifetime tsunami. The former can be handled with better automation, better training of operators and fewer hours (like air traffic controllers) and the latter by choosing sites and engineering that would protect the plants from natural disasters.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
5. wrong, 3 Mile Isl. now is known to be a meltdown + there have been many, many "near misses." See:
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 07:45 AM
Sep 2012

The Case Against the Nuclear Renaissance for the long list.

And BTW, if nuclear is so safe and cheap, why aren't investors investing in new ones? They are asking US for BILLION$ (several billions for each new plant) in guaranteed loans. In addition, each plant is only insured for $350 million for an accident so if a Chernobyl or Fuku accident were to occur in the US, taxpayers are on the hook to pay for the billions in cleanup (if it can be done).

This industry needs to be shut down.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
7. I am not advocating it for the US.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:10 AM
Sep 2012

I am advocating it for India where electricity makes a difference between having a job vs starvation. Indian markets cannot afford oil-fired or CNG/LNG-fired power plants. No power = no manufacturing job growth, no manufacturing jobs = starvation and poverty.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
9. Nuclear is much more expensive than oil and gas and wind.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:23 AM
Sep 2012

And solar will be cheaper than nuclear almost everywhere in a few years.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
10. Not in India
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 08:09 PM
Sep 2012

India builds its own nuclear power plants with very few imported components and the costs are far far less than comparable European or American plants.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
11. Wind is already cheaper than coal in parts of India
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 09:42 PM
Sep 2012
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-07-18/ge-turbines-help-greenko-drive-wind-power-cost-below-coal

GE Turbines Help Greenko Drive Wind Power Cost Below Coal
By Natalie Obiko Pearson on July 18, 2012

The cost of wind power has dropped below the price of coal-fired energy in parts of India for the first time as improved turbine technology and rising fossil-fuel prices boost its competitiveness, Greenko Group Plc (GKO) said.

“Today we’re able to supply energy below the cost of conventional power,” said Mahesh Kolli, president of Greenko, which is building wind projects with General Electric Co. (GE) in India. “That’s the key development for this year.”

The cost of wind has closed in on coal thanks to more advanced turbines, which can produce more electricity from lower wind speeds. The shift means new wind farms in India will be able to survive without state subsidies, potentially attracting investors to a country where 57 percent of installed capacity is coal-based and 31 percent renewable, including hydropower.

Greenko began operating its first wind project in Ratnagiri in Maharashtra state this year using 1.6-megawatt GE turbines designed for low winds. That farm is “achieving efficiencies never before seen in India,” with a 30 percent plant load factor, Kolli said today by telephone. That’s a measure of a site’s actual generation compared with its theoretical capacity.

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cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
12. If you think you can run
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:34 PM
Sep 2012

a country the size of India on wind and solar alone, you would be wrong.

Secondly, I am not favoring nuclear in lieu of wind/solar/geothermal but in addition to it.

The power needs of India with a billion people are astronomical as all rural areas get TVs, microwaves and computers. Without lots of power, India is destined to be an agrarian backwards country.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
8. Nuclear is one of the most expensive energy sources - it's "cake", not bread
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:22 AM
Sep 2012

The reason fossil fuels are used so much is because they've been the cheapest.
But they are getting more expensive.

Renewables keep getting cheaper as technology improves and manufacturing scales up.
Wind is roughly competitive with natural gas now.
In some areas solar is cheaper than fossil fuel.
This decade, solar will become competitive with fossil fuels almost everywhere.

Nuclear fission will remain extremely expensive.
It's possible that fusion will be cost-competitive, but it's still decades away.

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
2. K&R. So glad to hear it can be stopped!
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 01:38 AM
Sep 2012

If safety concerns are not met.

There's a lot of sun in India.

There's a lot of mass transit could be more.

There are lots of brilliant engineers there too.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
6. "India should start phasing out nuclear energy, like Germany, France, and Japan."
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:03 AM
Sep 2012

AS SHOULD THE US!!!!!!!!!!!

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