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Jose Garcia

(2,698 posts)
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:11 AM Apr 2020

Tammy Baldwin, Ron Johnson call for Postal Service to investigate undelivered absentee ballots

Source: Madison.com

U.S. Senators Tammy Baldwin and Ron Johnson are asking the Postal Service to investigate why an untold number of absentee ballots never made it to voters who didn’t want to risk contracting the COVID-19 coronavirus by going to the polls for Tuesday’s election.

Baldwin, D-Madison, and Johnson, R-Oshkosh, sent a letter Thursday to U.S. Postal Service Inspector General Tammy Whitcomb citing reported delivery failures in Appleton, Oshkosh and Fox Point Village and saying they are “concerned there may be more examples” of missing ballots.

The senators said the investigation is necessary so absentee voting procedures are “strictly and effectively followed” during upcoming elections.

Here’s what is known and unknown about the absentee ballots:

Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/s/madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/tammy-baldwin-ron-johnson-call-for-postal-service-to-investigate-undelivered-absentee-ballots/article_bc2e459f-f7b1-51ac-b5be-ec846a1f9c20.amp.html

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Tammy Baldwin, Ron Johnson call for Postal Service to investigate undelivered absentee ballots (Original Post) Jose Garcia Apr 2020 OP
Hell...I've been waiting on stamps to be delivered for eight days Bengus81 Apr 2020 #1
I wanted to order a screwdriver set from amazon yesterday jimfields33 Apr 2020 #3
I believe amazon right now is prioritizing shipments LisaL Apr 2020 #5
I definitely agree with prioritizing jimfields33 Apr 2020 #9
Sometimes those extremely long delivery times not fooled Apr 2020 #21
Amazon won't deliver non essential items. Home Depot tried charging me 45 dollars shipping sarcasmo Apr 2020 #15
Amazon is 100% delivering non essential items obamanut2012 Apr 2020 #16
Thanks. I'm going to try ordering anyway. jimfields33 Apr 2020 #20
Yup....takes forever. Ordered a new Insinkerator Bengus81 Apr 2020 #28
When I order it shows six weeks out and ends up canceling. sarcasmo Apr 2020 #30
I ordered boxers for myself and my 4yo son on Monday. Quackers Apr 2020 #17
Oh. Thank you jimfields33 Apr 2020 #19
I don't think the post office is to blame for this one. gab13by13 Apr 2020 #2
True but they might be the only ones to get pensions jimfields33 Apr 2020 #4
UPS and Fedx safeinOhio Apr 2020 #6
The Post Office and the press gab13by13 Apr 2020 #8
Publican Activist judges. safeinOhio Apr 2020 #10
It allows Congress to designate post offices. Igel Apr 2020 #12
Republican party created the fiasco. They are to blame. Tech Apr 2020 #7
Try ordering a mask on line. gab13by13 Apr 2020 #11
Postal Regulatory Commission bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #13
My dad has been complaining about mail delivery in Michigan. RandySF Apr 2020 #14
I usually don't get much mail. llmart Apr 2020 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2020 #23
A paragraph from an email from Rep Debbie Dingell JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2020 #25
The whole P.O. thing is warming up to be a giant bomb Lulu KC Apr 2020 #18
Just for the record Johnson................this is why the election went the way it did............. turbinetree Apr 2020 #24
Big answer if it was a 'franked' politicians piece of crap it would... Historic NY Apr 2020 #26
I had ordered some face masks from Amazon, MiniMe Apr 2020 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Apr 2020 #29

Bengus81

(7,059 posts)
1. Hell...I've been waiting on stamps to be delivered for eight days
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:22 AM
Apr 2020

Ordered through USPS to keep out of a PO line or one at the super market. This has tracking because it's supposedly being sent Priority. The tracking has said for the last two days it would be delivered by 8pm that evening. Nope,never showed up. NOW today it says something about a tracking alert.

This is just six of those small books of ten stamps,so yeah I can see how those ballots would go missing--now doubt be delivered to those people on Saturday or next Monday.

jimfields33

(16,987 posts)
3. I wanted to order a screwdriver set from amazon yesterday
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:55 AM
Apr 2020

Keeps me from going out to Walmart, but it was a May 1st delivery date. I know it’s not a priority in the big picture but MAY 1st???? I didn’t bother.

LisaL

(45,632 posts)
5. I believe amazon right now is prioritizing shipments
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 09:09 AM
Apr 2020

of what it considers essential. I guess they don't consider screwdrivers as essential.
I've been ordering a lot of items from amazon (allows me not to venture out as much) with good success.

jimfields33

(16,987 posts)
9. I definitely agree with prioritizing
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 09:54 AM
Apr 2020

But I thought an additional five days would be ok but close to a month? Yieks!!!

not fooled

(5,845 posts)
21. Sometimes those extremely long delivery times
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 11:43 AM
Apr 2020

indicate the item would be sent directly by a seller overseas, in e.g. China or Hong Kong.

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
15. Amazon won't deliver non essential items. Home Depot tried charging me 45 dollars shipping
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:45 AM
Apr 2020

on two 27w light bulbs. Bought the same two light bulbs for twenty dollars shippign included on Ebay.

Bengus81

(7,059 posts)
28. Yup....takes forever. Ordered a new Insinkerator
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 02:28 PM
Apr 2020

Took about 2.5 weeks to get here but saved the trip to HD where it was about 20.00 more.

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
17. I ordered boxers for myself and my 4yo son on Monday.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 11:25 AM
Apr 2020

The delivery was scheduled to be the end of April. My boxers came in on Wednesday and my son's arrived yesterday. So it’s more likely they are overestimating delivery windows just in case.

jimfields33

(16,987 posts)
19. Oh. Thank you
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 11:39 AM
Apr 2020

You think they are overestimating so we don’t expect next day but maybe comes much sooner then planned? I think I will try it. I’d rather not go out right now. Thank you for replying. You made my day.

gab13by13

(22,562 posts)
2. I don't think the post office is to blame for this one.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:49 AM
Apr 2020

You won't have to worry about the PO since it is running out of money because it has to put away benefits for workers 75 years in advance, that's money for people who haven't even been born yet.

Yeah let's get rid of the Post Office then we can kiss mail in voting goodbye.

jimfields33

(16,987 posts)
4. True but they might be the only ones to get pensions
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:57 AM
Apr 2020

I know it’s overkill but some pensions will end due to bankruptcy and states and local won’t be able to keep up the promises. I see that happening sometime in the future.

safeinOhio

(33,153 posts)
6. UPS and Fedx
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 09:09 AM
Apr 2020

only charge five bucks to deliver a letter.
Section 8. Clause 7 of the US Constitution "to establish Post Offices and Post Roads"

gab13by13

(22,562 posts)
8. The Post Office and the press
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 09:49 AM
Apr 2020

are the only occupations that I believe are listed in the Constitution, and Republicans want to do away with both of them.

Igel

(35,665 posts)
12. It allows Congress to designate post offices.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:23 AM
Apr 2020

"Empowered" doesn't mean "required."

And "the press" isn't "reporters." It says that if you own a press, you are authorized to use it. Instead of needing a special government patent or permission to actually use it. Think of these as being like taxi "medallions", but instead of it being something up for auction it's something that individual rulers can dispense as they want--you can charge for them, but mostly it's a way of controlling who gets them. A second way of controlling presses was by saying that you could only print on approved paper--the approval cost, and might not be given. You build a press and make paper on your own, sorry, can't use either without express permission from the person you might want to print bad things about.

That could be newspapers. It can be your local photocopy machine making handbills protesting a business. It's somebody publishing a Bible or a political tract. Think of press as the thing, not the activity or the "estate".

Somewhere along the way it's come to mean "journalists"--perhaps because that's how newspapers mostly wanted it to be applied.

gab13by13

(22,562 posts)
11. Try ordering a mask on line.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:16 AM
Apr 2020

I found some fancy ones last week with designs on them that are reusable, for 8.95 from Amazon/Adinikas mask. Delivery is April 17th.
Plain masks delivery is the end of June.

bucolic_frolic

(44,540 posts)
13. Postal Regulatory Commission
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:26 AM
Apr 2020

controlled by Republicans. But not credible they'd be involved. If there are plumbers holding up the works in WI, it's most likely an unofficial operation to tilt the election process.

llmart

(15,825 posts)
22. I usually don't get much mail.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:03 PM
Apr 2020

But in the past three weeks there has been suspiciously next to no mail for me and that is unusual. I'm in Michigan. I did receive that piece of shit postcard with Trump's name on it re: the virus but was what I consider campaign material. I left it in the back of my mailbox and refuse to take it out. I didn't ask to be on that mailing list.

Response to RandySF (Reply #14)

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,534 posts)
25. A paragraph from an email from Rep Debbie Dingell
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:38 PM
Apr 2020
On a check in call yesterday there was an update from USPS and mail delivery. USPS in Michigan’s Detroit district office made the tough decision to focus on first class letters, bills and checks, and packages to ensure that essential mail would be delivered. Many mail carriers and postal workers are currently at home for their and our safety. We thank the hard-working front-line workers – including letter carriers and postal workers. We will stay on top of mail delivery issues like we always have and maintain this essential service.


So, I guess all the advertisements and catalogs are piling up somewhere. I look forward to seeing them in July or August.

Lulu KC

(2,650 posts)
18. The whole P.O. thing is warming up to be a giant bomb
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 11:29 AM
Apr 2020

I have missed how keeping it funded is included in stimulus package--need to get up to date on this! Yesterday we put our primary ballots out to be mailed and I had a feeling I was releasing them into a very treacherous future.

turbinetree

(24,823 posts)
24. Just for the record Johnson................this is why the election went the way it did.............
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:28 PM
Apr 2020

and you asshole confirmed two the five federalist society POS.................it real simple if you know how to read.................. ..................

https://www.channel3000.com/supreme-court-blocks-extended-absentee-voting-in-wisconsin-primary/


so don't lay this completely on the PO, your party under John Boehner and his partner in crimes Paul Ryan, put the system in the straights it is in...............mad:

And this Johnson is what your party has being to the postal system.............

https://www.alternet.org/2011/09/3_big_lies_at_the_heart_of_republican_attacks_on_the_post_office/.

MiniMe

(21,742 posts)
27. I had ordered some face masks from Amazon,
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:58 PM
Apr 2020

Amazon told me it would be May or so before it was delivered. They are due to be delivered today per the tracking.

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