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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:16 AM

Coronavirus India: India bans export of wonder drug - Hydroxychloroquine

Source: MSN

Coronavirus India: In a significant move, India has banned the export of hydroxychloroquine, an anti-Malaria drug that is believed to work as a medicine for treating Coronavirus infected patients as well.

According to a late-night notification by the Ministry of Commerce and Industry, the export of medication and the composition ingredients used for its manufacturing have been banned.

"The export of Hydroxychloroquine and formulations made from Hydroxychloroquine under any ITCHS Code... is prohibited with immediate effect," the DGFT under the ministry said in the notification.

Recently, the national task force for COVID-19 constituted by Indian Council for Medical Research (ICMR) has recommended hydroxy-chloroquine as a preventive medication.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/coronavirus-india-india-bans-export-of-wonder-drug-hydroxychloroquine/ar-BB11FcsI

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Reply Coronavirus India: India bans export of wonder drug - Hydroxychloroquine (Original post)
killaphill Mar 25 OP
getagrip_already Mar 25 #1
FBaggins Mar 25 #3
OhNo-Really Mar 25 #7
FBaggins Mar 25 #9
getagrip_already Mar 25 #24
FBaggins Mar 25 #31
getagrip_already Mar 25 #32
FBaggins Mar 25 #35
getagrip_already Mar 25 #36
SWBTATTReg Mar 25 #23
LisaL Mar 25 #2
OhNo-Really Mar 25 #4
cstanleytech Mar 25 #8
OhNo-Really Mar 25 #12
cstanleytech Mar 25 #15
OhNo-Really Mar 25 #11
bucolic_frolic Mar 25 #5
IronLionZion Mar 25 #6
oldsoftie Mar 25 #25
IronLionZion Mar 25 #26
Ninsianna Mar 25 #34
oldsoftie Mar 25 #38
Ninsianna Mar 25 #45
Salviati Mar 25 #10
OhNo-Really Mar 25 #13
enki23 Mar 25 #16
Ninsianna Mar 25 #29
Salviati Mar 25 #17
CountAllVotes Mar 25 #28
getagrip_already Mar 25 #33
oldsoftie Mar 25 #39
getagrip_already Mar 25 #40
SansACause Mar 25 #14
OneCrazyDiamond Mar 25 #18
JGug1 Mar 25 #19
Igel Mar 25 #20
CountAllVotes Mar 25 #37
burrowowl Mar 25 #44
truthisfreedom Mar 25 #21
Journeyman Mar 25 #22
CountAllVotes Mar 25 #30
bobbieinok Mar 25 #27
DallasNE Mar 25 #41
magoo221 Mar 25 #42
hatrack Mar 25 #43

Response to killaphill (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:21 AM

1. and here, in a single news item, is the danger of globalization of critical goods....

You follow the lowest cost suppliers, you lose control of strategically important goods.

Bring manufacturing of critical medical supplies, electronics, and chemicals back to the us. So what if it costs more.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:30 AM

3. It's also made in West Virginia nt

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:39 AM

7. Do this company import components?

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Response to OhNo-Really (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:45 AM

9. They have ingredients on-site for 50 million doses

Reportedly enough to treat 1.5 million patients.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:10 PM

24. is it trump owned or affiliated?

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #24)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:07 PM

31. It's a generic drug that sells for about 30 cents per dose nt

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #31)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:18 PM

32. yes, but who owns the company and what connection do they have to the admin?

You seem to know a lot about this un-named company, so I'm just curious.

Not accusing, just asking.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #32)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:36 PM

35. The WV manufacturer is a global pharma company

I don't see any evidence of Trump ownership of Mylan or of any of the other manufacturers who have said they're ramping up and/or donating millions of doses to hospitals in the US.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #35)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:41 PM

36. ok, thanks, good info....

Hopefully if it has efficacy it doesn't go the way of the pharma bro drugs; pennies per dose to thousands.....

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:06 PM

23. They said this before in the past about importing critical items into the US, and actually the ...

reverse has happened in the US, that alternate supplies were developed in the US to counteract any importing of critical items/materials into the US.

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Response to killaphill (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:25 AM

2. I don't believe it to be a wonder drug against covid.

It also has a bunch of side effects.
But what about people who have been using it here for other conditions?

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Response to killaphill (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:30 AM

4. So MSN sites RT 🤢

And RT sites India today

BUT

If you persist you end up at the source which includes this language

ď It, however, said the government will allow export of the medicine on humanitarian grounds on case-to-case basis on the Ministry of External Affairs' recommendation.
Export will also be permitted from the special economic zones/export oriented units and in cases where the outbound shipment is made to fulfil export obligation under any advance authorisation license issued on or before the date of this notification, which is March 25, 2020.Ē

Iíll be back with link. It a good idea to Persia to get to the original source. Iím surprised MSN used RT

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/coronavirus-india-government-bans-export-anti-malarial-drug-hydroxychloroquine-1659347-2020-03-25

Also troubling

Over the last few weeks, India has banned exports of host of medical devices including sanitisers, all types of ventilators and surgical masks.

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Response to OhNo-Really (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:42 AM

8. The future economic repercussions might be harsh for India if companies leave

and or cancel plans to expand into India for fear of being banned from exporting products they make.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:55 AM

12. In the article. The US banned import in 2013

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Response to OhNo-Really (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:02 AM

15. I'm talking about the other things they banned for export and the companies that make those

products might not exactly be to happy about that.

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Response to killaphill (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:30 AM

5. Yeah, MSN, Wonder Drug

Wonder if it works

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Response to killaphill (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:31 AM

6. I wish media would stop linking this drug to Coronavirus

it hasn't been studied and proven to treat it yet. People are hoarding it and some have already died from self medicating.

This is dangerous misinformation

Then there are people who legit need it for existing conditions with a valid doctor's prescription, and can't get it now.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:26 PM

25. But how do I hoard a DRUG? I cant get it without a prescription.

And its not even commonly prescribed either is it?

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #25)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:35 PM

26. Is this a real question?

We live in a country with a massive drug addiction problem. I don't want to spell out the ways people get restricted prescription drugs without a prescription.

Rush Limbaugh didn't let pesky laws stop him from getting oxycontin, did he?

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #25)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:31 PM

34. You get your dumbass Republican family members with DEA numbers to do it for you.

Pharmacies are now requiring diagnoses to be indicted on the scripts. Dentists abusing their prescribing power are being called out. And ophthalmologists like a certain libertarian CoronaRand.

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Response to Ninsianna (Reply #34)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:27 PM

38. How the hell can a dentist prescribe a malaria drug?

I'd hope these doctors get in some kind of trouble when this is all over with

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #38)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:45 PM

45. They're being questioned now, but all you need is a DEA number I guess at some pharmacies.

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Response to killaphill (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:46 AM

10. It's only a 'wonder' drug...

... in the sense that medical professionals are still wondering if it does anything, and the answer is still unclear.


Malaria Drug Chloroquine No Better Than Regular Coronavirus Care, Study Finds
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213170771

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Response to Salviati (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:57 AM

13. The efficacy study cited was on a 30 participant group. Too small

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Response to OhNo-Really (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:30 AM

16. It's big enough to find a big effect.

Leaving some possibility, I guess, of a small one.

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Response to enki23 (Reply #16)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 02:25 PM

29. no, it isn't.

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Response to OhNo-Really (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:06 PM

17. But the issue still stands, we don't know if it does anything or not.

Someone calling it a 'wonder' drug (the fault of the headline writer, not the OP...) is recklessly irresponsible, whether it's a journalist or the President of the United States.

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Response to OhNo-Really (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:52 PM

28. Thank you!

In order to prove efficacy you need to study a drug for at least 5 years. FIVE YEARS! Not five days or five weeks.

Studies must be many that must be carefully controlled studies w/more than 30 subjects that meet specific criteria!

I hold a Master's degree is research science having taken years of statistics in college. I know wtf I am writing about.

Please read and listen!

Don't mess around with a drug that there is zero efficacy to be found with COVID-19. It it not ethical and is flat out dangerous!

As for it being a malaria cure, it is a TREATMENT for malaria, nothing more than that. I know this already as my father had malaria and used this drug for awhile until he could no longer tolerate it.



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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #28)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:25 PM

33. my bil is an epidemiologist at a major university....

He said they are having problems getting people to sign up for the study when it's been so easy to sidestep the study and get the drug directly. Why risk getting a placebo if you can be assured of getting the drug itself.

There is no downside since the side effects are already well known and can be monitored, just like they would be in a study.

So they are having to redesign the tests to use a smaller control group or one out of the general icu population, which is difficult because you don't get the detailed medical histories.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #33)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:29 PM

39. So we still have to consider a placebo effect with an actual virus?

I thought the "mind over matter" stuff dealt mostly with pain and things like that

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #39)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:33 PM

40. I think it has to do with the selection of the control group being similar to the study group

You need to do a deep patient history of both groups so you can match factors like underlying conditions. Otherwise you may be trying to compare unlike populations.

I'm not in the field, that is just what I think I heard. But yes, they still use a placebo group to keep the doctors from knowing who is who.

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Response to killaphill (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:59 AM

14. Wonder drug???

From the article: "...that is believed to work as a medicine for treating Coronavirus..." There's no scientific evidence that this is any sort of wonder drug, but it is highly toxic. There's just anecdotal evidence at this point.

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Response to killaphill (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:09 PM

18. I sure hope they study it,

and find it is effective at treating this thing. We need something now.

VOX has this on it:
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/20/21188433/coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-chloroquine-covid-19-treatment
Sounds like a maybe.

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Response to killaphill (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:34 PM

19. Believed?

"hydroxychloroquine, an anti-Malaria drug that is believed to work as a medicine for treating Coronavirus infected patients as well."

Help me to understand why you wrote that, please. At this time, there has been ONE study with 27 people in it, 2 of whom died, addressing the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine.
This drug has been touted by our Liar in Chief as a drug to try. That's IT. He says it works. Actual virologists, actual scientists are trying to tell us that there need to be some studies done.

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Response to JGug1 (Reply #19)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:41 PM

20. Chinese reports spoke of it favorably.

A recent French report was published with the claim that it + some antibiotic reduced viral load and duration.

It suffers from the usual problems of low amount of research, and the research is fairly shoddy. It suffers from the Trump-effect.

But the support for this isn't much worse than support for using plasma from recovered COVID patients. That, however, is more widely believed to be worthwhile.

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Response to Igel (Reply #20)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 04:15 PM

37. +1

Thank you for posting this very wise information.

Lack of research and what is available is indeed shoddy if best.

Time to move beyond the shoddy research and do proper research!

How many more will die due to these manufactured lies?



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Response to JGug1 (Reply #19)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 07:42 PM

44. If you're allergic to quinine it won't work for you

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Response to killaphill (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:42 PM

21. Lupus?

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Response to killaphill (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:00 PM

22. It's a "wonder drug" for my wife, who uses it to control her RA . . .

The moment that fool opened his mouth, I knew this would be bad for my wife. Wealthy people worldwide are snapping up the available supply while hospitals and doctors throughout the nation hoard whatever they can acquire. It's so bad now, Bayer in Germany had to make a special delivery to the US FDA of 3 million units to ensure the FDA would have the supply needed to test its efficacy against C19.

I despise that man with every corpuscle of my being.

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Response to Journeyman (Reply #22)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:05 PM

30. How greedy

I feel the same as you.

Not an hour passes in the day that I do not curse this very EVIL man!

I'm with you, FUCK DUMP and his LIES!

FUCK tRUMP!



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Response to killaphill (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:35 PM

27. And many of us thought the final battles would be over water or landQ

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Response to killaphill (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:49 PM

41. Necessary Correction To MSN Story

"hydroxychloroquine, an anti-Malaria drug that is believed (by President Trump} to work as a medicine for treating Coronavirus infected patients as well."

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Response to killaphill (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 06:57 PM

42. I have lupus, how will I get my meds

I was diagnosed with lupus 3 years ago. The first drug they tried on me was HydroxyChloroquine. I was told if it didn't keep the symptoms at bay I would move on to another medication. Each medication down the list has harsher and harsher side effects. I was lucky... it worked. Iíve taken two 200mg tablets each morning for three years and my blood work has been excellent. The cost is next to nothing and I took it for granted that I would take it forever.

Being diagnosed with Lupus was the most frightening day of my life. The visits over the next 6 months reviewing my blood work was akin to attending a funeral. For two years now it hardly crosses my mind since I felt like I was cured. The only problem is it is not a cure, and without this treatment I will start down the terrible path of Lupus.

I refilled my latest script two weeks ago, I have an extra month on hand but know what will happen in two weeks when I go to pick up my meds at CVS.

The president needs to act like a president and take control of everything that has shortages; whether itís masks, gloves, ventilators, drugs or any other of the 1000ís of supplies going short now. Then the government sees that they are only given to the patients, hospitals, clinics and healthcare workers who desperately need their supplies, tools, medications etc. The fact that hospitals are bidding against each other for the same supplies is immoral. No one needs to make more profit in a crisis. But there needs to be a ďsingle payerĒ and a single administrator to make sure they get to the ones in need.

Wake up America, we are in the third world

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Response to killaphill (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 07:35 PM

43. This is an actual headline? "Wonder drug"?

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