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Wed Feb 12, 2020, 06:32 AM

Sanders edges Buttigieg in NH, giving Dems 2 front-runners

Source: AP

By STEVE PEOPLES, KATHLEEN RONAYNE and HUNTER WOODALL

MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) — Bernie Sanders won New Hampshire’s presidential primary, edging moderate rival Pete Buttigieg and scoring the first clear victory in the Democratic Party’s chaotic 2020 nomination fight.

In his Tuesday night win, the 78-year-old Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist, beat back a strong challenge from the 38-year-old former mayor of South Bend, Indiana. The dueling Democrats represent different generations, see divergent paths to the nomination and embrace conflicting visions of America’s future.

As Sanders and Buttigieg celebrated, Amy Klobuchar scored an unexpected third-place finish that gives her a road out of New Hampshire as the primary season moves on to the string of state-by-state contests that lie ahead.

Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden posted disappointing fourth and fifth place finishes respectively and were on track to finish with zero delegates from the state.



Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., with his wife Jane O'Meara Sanders, arrives to speak to supporters at a primary night election rally in Manchester, N.H., Tuesday, Feb. 11, 2020. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)


Read more: https://apnews.com/3d16640da86f6e5c30b1b5fba8d91936



The DU admins (owners) are allowing ONE post only in LBN per each caucus or primary final results.

After waiting all night for final numbers (3% have not reported yet) I decided to post this for our morning readers. When that 3% reports this post will be updated.

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Reply Sanders edges Buttigieg in NH, giving Dems 2 front-runners (Original post)
Omaha Steve Wednesday OP
McKim Wednesday #1
SergeStorms Wednesday #3
democrattotheend Wednesday #11
She_Totally_Gets_It Wednesday #18
SergeStorms Wednesday #2
OnlinePoker Wednesday #4
obamanut2012 Wednesday #6
Omaha Steve Wednesday #7
Sunlei Wednesday #13
She_Totally_Gets_It Wednesday #21
RandiFan1290 Wednesday #22
She_Totally_Gets_It Wednesday #23
Sunlei Wednesday #24
She_Totally_Gets_It Wednesday #25
She_Totally_Gets_It Wednesday #20
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jimfields33 Wednesday #26
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jimfields33 Wednesday #29
McKim Wednesday #33
obamanut2012 Wednesday #5
WhiteTara Wednesday #9
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jimfields33 Wednesday #30
True Blue Drew Wednesday #8
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LeftTurn3623 Wednesday #12
Sapient Donkey Wednesday #34
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LeftTurn3623 Wednesday #38
Sunlei Wednesday #14
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 07:47 AM

1. Self Described Socialist.....

Self described socialist.....hmmmmm....not Senator Sanders and including an unflattering photo.
You can always count on the AP to be objective!

I am shocked that the women did not do better. Warren and Klobuchar are candidates of real substance. This is tragic, a waste of real talent. I hope they find a place in the new cabinet!!!!

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Response to McKim (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 07:52 AM

3. Unflattering photo?

I don't think so. At least the media didn't do a 'Howard Dean' on Senator Sanders.

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Response to McKim (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:13 AM

11. I like that photo of Bernie

It seems very him, and I mean that in a positive way.

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Response to McKim (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:37 PM

18. Well, Bernie Sanders told us that Identity Politics don't matter, remember? He insulted anyone who

 

isn't white, male, and straight.

Honestly, I cannot understand why women, LGBTQ, or minorities support the Donald J. Trump of the Political Left.

Klobuchar actually did o.k. in NH. I don't know what happening with Elizabeth Warren.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 07:50 AM

2. Wasn't this supposed to be a landslide for Sanders?

He being the local New Englander etc. They did win, but I'd be somewhat concerned if I were in the Sanders camp. This was a definite under-perform, and the primaries only get more difficult for everyone from here on.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 08:03 AM

4. RCP average had Sanders at a 7.4% advantage

Nobody had the Klobuchar surge in their calculations. Her top was 14% in the final 2 polls.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_presidential_primary-6276.html#polls

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Response to OnlinePoker (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 08:36 AM

6. Yup, she was a winner last night

It will be interesting if her surge carries through Super Tuesday.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 08:51 AM

7. Amy set a new DU fundraising record yesterday



Amy had 202 contributions. $12,258.60 raised.

For all candidates it was 224 contributions with $13,199.60 raised.

Here are the POTUS candidates we have contribution links for:

Alphabetically.

Joe Biden: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/duforjoe

Pete Buttigieg: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/duforpete

Julian Castro: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/duforcastro

Tulsi Gabbard: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/duforgabbard

Kamala Harris: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/duforharris

Jay Inslee: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/duforinslee

Amy Klobuchar: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/duforamy

Beto O'Rourke: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/duforbeto

Bernie Sanders: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/duforbernie2020

Elizabeth Warren: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/duforwarren

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:41 AM

13. 95% of DU contributions & a one day surge, I find this very odd.

Had to log on, it's been a long while. The surge of Amy Klobuchar in the 2 primaries I also found odd. Now with these donations, 12k!? on DU where in the primaries forum she doesn't even have a percent of supporters.

It's not unknown for 'the other party' to game the political system to their advantage. President Trump even mentioned a couple times at his rally & implied r-s should vote in D primary. Now these donations 'out of the sky'. I'm very suspicious the same people who hacked DU last GE are hard at work with their manipulations of our next election. Soon 'someone' will back a couple spoilers as independent to drain away more D votes in the GE just like the 6% of votes Clinton lost. I feel bad for Biden and Warren, Ds deserve a fair primary and I don't think they're getting one.

Sanders has said this at every campaign stop.."No matter who wins the primary" "We are going to unite together and defeat the most dangerous president in the modern history of this country."

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #13)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:41 PM

21. I DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING BERNIE SANDERS SAYS! NOT. ONE. WORD.

 

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Response to RandiFan1290 (Reply #22)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:46 PM

23. Not really. Slept like a baby. :)

 

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Response to She_Totally_Gets_It (Reply #21)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:55 PM

24. Thanks for post. Obama warned Ds about this "circular firing squad" oddness.

Barack Obama warned on Saturday that US progressives risk creating a “circular firing squad” at a time when prospective presidential candidates are competing fiercely against each other to run against Donald Trump.

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #24)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:59 PM

25. Listen: I just don't trust Sanders due to his behavior, due to his divisiveness and pettiness.

 

I understand what President Obama is saying and fully agree, but Sanders is the antithesis of that.

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Response to OnlinePoker (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:40 PM

20. Which means that, as I expected, Sanders is in trouble. It really was Amy and Pete's night.

 

Let's get out of the small, lily white states and see what the true reflection of the Democratic Party has to say. If Sanders comes out on top, I'll eat my words. But I seriously doubt it.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:38 PM

19. EXACTLY!! I think he's done, no matter what his deranged supporters say.

 

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Response to She_Totally_Gets_It (Reply #19)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:07 PM

26. I want him to

But super delegates will change the game and Bloomberg is buying the nomination. So those two items definitely hurt Bernie. The thing is Bloomberg will hurt them all eventually. And no I’m not happy about that at all.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #26)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:17 PM

28. I couldn't agree more. But remember that superdelegates can change their minds at any time.

 

I have to believe that if they witness this type of thing going on with Bloomberg trying to buy the nomination, they'll put an end to it.

Also, Bloomberg is currently in trouble in the South with his racist audio clip that's being played in markets in SC and GA. Black voters will never forgive him for Stop-n-Frisk or failing to make good on the innocent Central Park Five.

I just don't see Sanders doing well going forward. I could be wrong, but I simply don't see it.

Steyer has gained ground in SC but that's partly because he's actually trying to earn the black vote. Where is Bernie Sanders? Is he even trying to do better among black voters? Does he even care? My guess is no.

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Response to She_Totally_Gets_It (Reply #28)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:22 PM

29. All valid points.

He’s hopefully in Nevada. He’s doing well there and needs the win. Hispanics are all in for Bernie. I know African Americans are a big percentage, but Hispanics are getting bigger everyday. I’d love to know the percentage of Hispanic democratic voters. I’d say they are on the close to the numbers that African Americans have.

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Response to She_Totally_Gets_It (Reply #19)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:47 PM

33. Deranged??????

Deranged???? How about no personal attacks on DU?

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 08:35 AM

5. No one is a front runner after only IA and NH

Two small, very, very white states.

And, Klobuchar is who gained traction yesterday in NH.

Super Tuesday has a much more diverse slate of states, and that's when things will really start shaking out.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:43 AM

9. My sentiments exactly.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:20 PM

15. My sentiments, as well.

There are too many candidates to consider the small percentages separating them as equaling 'front runner status'. 26% is a paltry amount.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:23 PM

30. Bernie's got the Hispanic vote completely

He just needs to bring in a few more African Americans to vote for him and he has this.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:06 AM

8. So, Amy Klobuchopped Liver???

There are now three Democratic front-runners, not two.

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Response to True Blue Drew (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:46 AM

10. There's only one, according to betting odds sites and Nate Siver

We'll see if it changes, next is Nevada I think.

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Response to True Blue Drew (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:14 AM

12. who is the 3rd?

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Response to LeftTurn3623 (Reply #12)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:54 PM

34. Bernie, Pete, and Amy

Seems to be what many are thinking.

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Response to Sapient Donkey (Reply #34)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:41 PM

36. a 5th place & 3rd place finish makes you a front runner?

Pete is only considered a front runner cause he has the most delegates right now. If you even go by that Amy is in 4th.

But lets be honest, the front runners in the general are Sanders & Biden if you want to add a 3rd that would be Bloomberg waiting in the wings.

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Response to LeftTurn3623 (Reply #36)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:44 PM

37. Why Biden and Bloomberg?

But I see your point about Amy. She does have one less than Warren and basing it solely on her success last night probably is premature.

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Response to Sapient Donkey (Reply #37)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 03:24 PM

38. Biden & Bloomberg

based on National polling

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:06 PM

14. Thanks for posting DUs one LBN final results. 48 more to go!

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:34 PM

16. This doesn't tell me a lot.

New hampshire is a very small state in population with very little urban votes and nearly completely white non hispanic. The rubber will meet the road next month. With the front runners hovering around 25% there is a lot of open territory.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:34 PM

17. This is NOT good news for Bernie Sanders, no matter how much the media or his supporters

 

attempt to spin the results. Why do I say this? Split decisions in IA and NH--New Hampshire being the neighboring state of VT, and both states being lily white and not a fair representation of the Democratic Party.

But why is this bad for Bernie Sanders?

A. He now has nationwide name recognition, but split the vote with a no-name newcomer Buttigieg in IA and squeezed by in NH.

B. SC polls don't look good for Sanders. Why? It is a TRUE representation of the Democratic Party. Black voters are not supporting Sanders. Period. SC has a wealth of delegates up for grabs.

C. Buttigieg still leads in delegate counts. So if Bernie Sanders expected to solidify his supposed "momentum," this ain't it.

D. If Sanders performs poorly in SC, for me, it's over for him.

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Response to She_Totally_Gets_It (Reply #17)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 03:40 PM

39. I Thought the latest SC polls show Sanders closing in on Biden.


Not winning but within like 5%. I could be wrong.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:10 PM

27. He will lead in delegates after Nevada

However, I find it weird that everyone says one state does not make a primary except South Carolina for some weird reason. Bernie can lose South Carolina and still be ok. Just like mayor Pete lost New Hampshire and is ok.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #27)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:24 PM

31. Nevada is a caucus state and Sanders does well in caucus states, but don't discount Buttigieg

 

or even Klobuchar.

South Carolina has 54 delegates. Nevada has 36. What are you talking about? You're writing off South Carolina--a state that is much more diverse and representative of the Democratic Party. Why are you doing this? Because there's black and brown voters that we know Sanders doesn't care about?

It is still anyone's race through Super Tuesday, and with the number of southern, more diverse states coming up, I don't see how Sanders pulls it off. Black voters also remember how he and his wife insulted them in 2016. We didn't fall for Sanders then and we won't now.

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Response to She_Totally_Gets_It (Reply #31)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:26 PM

32. Yeah right. Nevada is very diverse.

Why are you discrediting the state and beautiful diversity?

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:16 PM

35. I'm DYING laughing 😂😂

It may just be me, but writers need to learn the difference between "Sanders edges Buttigieg" and "Sanders edges out Buttigieg". Because there is a HUGE difference.

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