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Jose Garcia

(2,708 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:33 AM Feb 2020

Ruth Bader Ginsburg says deadline to ratify Equal Rights Amendment has expired: 'I'd like it to star

Source: CNN

(CNN)Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a long-time supporter of the Equal Rights Amendment, suggested Monday night that the deadline to ratify the measure as a constitutional amendment has expired and that the decades long effort must start anew.

"I would like to see a new beginning," Ginsburg told an audience at Georgetown University Law Center.

"I'd like it to start over," she added.

Ginsburg was responding to a question from the moderator of the event, Judge M. Margaret McKeown of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, who asked whether there would ever be an Equal Rights Amendment on the federal level.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/10/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-equal-rights-amendment/index.html

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Ruth Bader Ginsburg says deadline to ratify Equal Rights Amendment has expired: 'I'd like it to star (Original Post) Jose Garcia Feb 2020 OP
So would I, RBG. Control-Z Feb 2020 #1
Maybe with a Democratic House, Senate, and Presidency, Croney Feb 2020 #2
The President has no formal roll in amending the Constitution Jose Garcia Feb 2020 #15
But he does have a powerful podium (to me bully pulpit is a double negative...). not_the_one Feb 2020 #18
I thought there was no deadline Blues Heron Feb 2020 #3
Here's an article on the ERA - pazzyanne Feb 2020 #4
What's the gist - CNN is not compatible w my computer Blues Heron Feb 2020 #6
The deadline was originally 1979 FBaggins Feb 2020 #7
OK thanks Blues Heron Feb 2020 #8
It isn't FBaggins Feb 2020 #9
me too Blues Heron Feb 2020 #11
The Constitution doesn't specify a duration for ratification... brooklynite Feb 2020 #12
Thanks brooklynite Blues Heron Feb 2020 #13
And the 1982 extension may have been invalid Jose Garcia Feb 2020 #17
Right FBaggins Feb 2020 #19
The ERA was passed by Congress in l972. pazzyanne Feb 2020 #10
Thanks pazzyanne Blues Heron Feb 2020 #14
The expiration dates got plenty of news when they passed Polybius Feb 2020 #20
Virginia just became the final needed ratifying state. I thought the ERA was on it's FailureToCommunicate Feb 2020 #5
The deadline for ratification was in 1979, attempts to extend that are disputed, and would LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #16
Justice Ginsberg also mentioned the fact that several states have recinded their ratification ripcord Feb 2020 #21
 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
18. But he does have a powerful podium (to me bully pulpit is a double negative...).
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:29 PM
Feb 2020

The New Rules suggest that old rules no longer matter. After all, we no longer have the rule of law. The laws we do have no longer apply to everyone, only to those who must be controlled, like truth tellers and patriots.

Besides.....

No telling how the the new Dem President could influence the people, who influence the legislatures, who would get it done.

Apparently the American public can be lead around by the nose. "But I've heard it so often it MUST be the truth", barks the nose leash gang...

Or, if you continually and repeatedly use your influence to positively affect the process for a positive outcome for equality, it may just happen.

Ya never know.

Blues Heron

(6,012 posts)
3. I thought there was no deadline
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:17 AM
Feb 2020

Plus, deadlines don't "expire" they "pass" When was the deadline if it's passed already? Why didn't it make the news as it ticked closer and closer?

FBaggins

(27,288 posts)
7. The deadline was originally 1979
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:30 AM
Feb 2020

Congress later extended it to 1982

The court was considering whether Congress could extend the deadline (and/or set one in the first place), and whether ratifying states could rescind that act, when the later deadline expired and the issue was moot.

FBaggins

(27,288 posts)
9. It isn't
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:37 AM
Feb 2020

By one view, the last state necessary for ratification (VA) did so a few weeks ago. My understanding is that some state AGs were suing to have it be recognized... but the executive branch had declared that the expired deadline kept that from occurring.

While the legal issues seem clear enough... I'm surprised that RBG would make such a statement (implying that the lawsuit isn't going anywhere).

 

brooklynite

(96,641 posts)
12. The Constitution doesn't specify a duration for ratification...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:29 AM
Feb 2020

...but the specific ERA Bill passed by the House and Senate incorporated one.

FBaggins

(27,288 posts)
19. Right
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:39 PM
Feb 2020

IIRC, that's where things stood when the supposed extension ran out in 1982. A lower court had ruled that Congress didn't have the power to extend the deadline and SCOTUS determined that the issue was moot since the supposed extension had passed by the time they heard the appeal.

It's presumably even less likely to be valid to "extend" a long-expired deadline than it is to extend one that had yet to expire.

pazzyanne

(6,562 posts)
10. The ERA was passed by Congress in l972.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:40 AM
Feb 2020

The window set was seven years, or 1979. That window was extended to 1982. However states have continued to pass, and in some cases rescind, all the way to 2019. Every year since 1982, bills have been introduced to remove the deadline without that happening. Recently, I believe in December, 2019, Alabama, South Dakota, and Louisiana filed a Federal Lawsuit to prevent the ERA from being added to the 4th amendment. (How sad is that?)

Polybius

(16,336 posts)
20. The expiration dates got plenty of news when they passed
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:39 PM
Feb 2020

The original expiration date was March 22, 1979. Before the time was up, it was extended again to June 30, 1982. They were unable to extend again, but it was all over the news in '82. I'm old, I remember.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,139 posts)
5. Virginia just became the final needed ratifying state. I thought the ERA was on it's
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:26 AM
Feb 2020

way, save for the stupid legal challenges from Republican states of course.

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
16. The deadline for ratification was in 1979, attempts to extend that are disputed, and would
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:06 AM
Feb 2020

end up in the Supreme Court.

Given that Justice Ginsberg herself thinks the deadline has expired, those attempts are unlikely to prevail.

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
21. Justice Ginsberg also mentioned the fact that several states have recinded their ratification
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:28 PM
Feb 2020

"So if you count a latecomer on the plus side how can you disregard states that said, 'We’ve changed our minds?'"

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