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riversedge

(69,731 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:30 AM Feb 2020

Top Navy SEAL commander resigns after apparent disagreements with Trump

Source: Business Insider



David Choi 1 hour ago


The officer responsible for US Navy special-operations forces will step down from his position, according to The Intercept.
Rear Adm. Collin Green's retirement follows the controversial court-martial of Special Warfare Operator Chief Eddie Gallagher.
President Donald Trump, who supported Gallagher, disagreed with Green's pursuit of a peer review for Gallagher's case.


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Special Warfare Rear Adm. Collin Green, commander of Naval Special Warfare Command, will retire in September.
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His retirement follows the controversial court-martial of Special Warfare Operator Chief Eddie Gallagher, after which Green moved to withdraw Gallagher's Trident pin, which signifies his membership in the Navy SEAL community.

Green personally ordered an "ability" and "ethics" peer evaluation of Gallagher, who was previously demoted and charged with war crimes, including the murder of an ISIS prisoner of war and the shooting of two people in Iraq in 2017. Gallagher was acquitted on both counts but convicted on a lesser charge of posing for a picture with the dead ISIS fighter....................................................

Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/navy-seal-resigns-disagreements-with-trump-collin-green-2020-2







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Top Navy SEAL commander resigns after apparent disagreements with Trump (Original Post) riversedge Feb 2020 OP
The sheer amount of damage Trump has done, and continues to do, to literally every damn thing AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #1
Meanwhile, Gallagher is selling t-shirts while firing an AR-15 with the optic installed backwards. AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #7
Good God you're right! Still In Wisconsin Feb 2020 #29
I was not the first to catch this. AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #30
LOL at that! Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #46
Recommended Mike 03 Feb 2020 #2
Bravo, Admiral Green! Paladin Feb 2020 #3
This is important to understand Perseus Feb 2020 #4
Yep. The danger of a government of yes-men under a deluded tyrant is very, very real. lostnfound Feb 2020 #10
In tRump's mind this will further his attempt to privatize the military. pazzyanne Feb 2020 #28
Integrity Rider3 Feb 2020 #5
Sounds great for Putin IronLionZion Feb 2020 #6
He probably won't talk pdxflyboy Feb 2020 #8
Well, Trump would have to take him to a court martial Farmer-Rick Feb 2020 #19
Trump wouldn't know better or care. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #24
Trump, being what he is, might try to revoke the Admiral's Trident pin. LastDemocratInSC Feb 2020 #9
Hasn't the leaders of the Army, Navy, Air Force, & Marines all quit in the last 18 months? Botany Feb 2020 #11
Announced a retirement in September? JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2020 #12
Doubtful. It's not like the FBI... Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #15
I think he needs "time in grade" to retire at that grade. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2020 #35
SEALs have been losing credibility since they started to go public... Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #13
Admiral Green's bio Botany Feb 2020 #17
Now watch all of the "82nd Chair-borne" basement dwellers refer bullwinkle428 Feb 2020 #14
They'll call him a deserter Cartoonist Feb 2020 #20
the purge continues pangaia Feb 2020 #16
Agreed. 58Sunliner Feb 2020 #39
One of the biggest scandals yet to break is the amount of good people trump has ousted from Mr. Sparkle Feb 2020 #18
He got tired of Cheeto calling him a 'big baby' no doubt sandensea Feb 2020 #21
Anything Trump touches gets broken or turned to SHIT! usaf-vet Feb 2020 #22
I'm not sure Gallagher is all that controversial within the SEAL and Spec Ops communities. Calista241 Feb 2020 #23
I can tell you from personal knowledge that, Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2020 #42
Our country suffers from the loss of people like this. Lonestarblue Feb 2020 #25
Another "national security" success Turbineguy Feb 2020 #26
After he steals the 2020 election, he'll need the military to protect him Jarqui Feb 2020 #27
The court martial wasn't controversial. muntrv Feb 2020 #31
That is the honorable choice, & one always open to those who refuse to follow a rotten leader. Hekate Feb 2020 #32
Smarter than the Navy Seal Commanders too? czarjak Feb 2020 #33
Roger that Master CHEIF Nance Traildogbob Feb 2020 #34
In my eyes, this man has more brains and balls than bluestarone Feb 2020 #36
This mother f'ing tRump is determined... B Stieg Feb 2020 #37
Another pause for deep concern. 58Sunliner Feb 2020 #38
Modus Operandi: squeeze out the moral intelligent knowledgeable people at all levels. What remains? Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2020 #40
yep Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #41
K&R BootinUp Feb 2020 #43
Trump is building a private military force that will obey anything he commands randr Feb 2020 #44
You know the one guy Trump hasn't beefed with? paparush Feb 2020 #45

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
1. The sheer amount of damage Trump has done, and continues to do, to literally every damn thing
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:33 AM
Feb 2020

that attracts his attention, is truly staggering.

Like, I should not be surprised, yet I am continually surprised.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
7. Meanwhile, Gallagher is selling t-shirts while firing an AR-15 with the optic installed backwards.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:44 AM
Feb 2020

Watch the video, note which side the battery is on, then look at the images lower left and lower right. It's flipped the wrong way.

https://www.ninelineapparel.com/pages/salty-frog-gear

That's an EOTECH XPS2.
https://www.eotechinc.com/sites/default/files/manuals/XP1956_XPS2_HWS_User_Manual_RevC.pdf

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
30. I was not the first to catch this.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:53 PM
Feb 2020

Apparently other Seals/military started chuckling about it online for some time now.

Paladin

(28,204 posts)
3. Bravo, Admiral Green!
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:37 AM
Feb 2020

Such evidence of honor and adult behavior will be lost on the baby-man punk in the White House, but there are plenty of others who will appreciate it.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
4. This is important to understand
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:38 AM
Feb 2020

I applaud this commander for resigning, mostly if he did because of disagreements with the con but...if when he joins society as a regular citizen he does not talk fully and explains why the con must be removed from office then his actions are nothing, he has not performed the ultimate sacrifice as today's sacrifices go, to go out and say everything, make sure you interview with the right people and suffer the consequences from tweet attacks from a delusional asshole.

One more thing, retiring and not talking is what would be dictators want, this is nothing but dismantling the military of good patriotic men/women and placing the incompetent and unpatriotic in places of power to do the con's bad deeds. That is what Chavez, Kim Jun Un, Putin, and all other dictators have done, they get rid of the good people and appoint "yes" people to those posts. This gets more dangerous on a daily basis.

pazzyanne

(6,519 posts)
28. In tRump's mind this will further his attempt to privatize the military.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:47 PM
Feb 2020

He wants to use our military as mercenaries and supplement with Black Water Security.

IronLionZion

(45,269 posts)
6. Sounds great for Putin
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:44 AM
Feb 2020

Russians are all about dismantling American institutions, reducing morale, weakening our national security, etc. while Trump surrounds himself with incompetent but loyal cronies who do whatever he wants.

Farmer-Rick

(10,072 posts)
19. Well, Trump would have to take him to a court martial
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:09 PM
Feb 2020

To take away his retirement, someone has to convene a court martial.

Retired officers are still under the UCMJ which includes the offense of showing contempt to federal officials.

But no retired military person has ever been found guilty under this article of the UCMJ. There was one junior officer prosecuted about 100 years ago but he was found not guilty.

If the Admiral is eligible for retirement, which he probably is because you have over 20 years when you become an Admiral, Trump has to take him to a court martial even if he is active duty.

And a court martial means the officer is allowed to present evidence. I don't think Trump wants that.

Botany

(70,294 posts)
11. Hasn't the leaders of the Army, Navy, Air Force, & Marines all quit in the last 18 months?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:51 AM
Feb 2020

And the #2 man at the Pentagon just quit too.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,283 posts)
12. Announced a retirement in September?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:09 PM
Feb 2020

Does he need to stay until September to qualify for retirement at a certain grade? If so, I doubt Trump will let him serve that long. Trump is too vindictive to let a non-sycophant retire with dignity.

Wounded Bear

(58,442 posts)
15. Doubtful. It's not like the FBI...
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:11 PM
Feb 2020

His rank is already set by Congressional commission.

The delay is more a of time to find and brief his replacement thing.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,283 posts)
35. I think he needs "time in grade" to retire at that grade.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 03:30 PM
Feb 2020

So, an O-8 has to serve as O-8 for three years before retirement, or he'd probably be retired as O-7.

His replacement thing (or a selection pool) has probably already been identified, even before he announced his plans. And the "acting replacement thing" has been training and educating for some time already. Maybe the Marine Corps runs a little leaner, and may have to leave a command open while picking replacements. It may not be as flush with excess brass as the other branches.

http://dopma-ropma.rand.org/retirement-grade.html

Wounded Bear

(58,442 posts)
13. SEALs have been losing credibility since they started to go public...
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:10 PM
Feb 2020

writing books, sharing about thier ops, etc. That's not what the SEALs are supposed to be about.

Kudos to the Admiral, fuck Trump.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
16. the purge continues
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:14 PM
Feb 2020

for those who believe trump can never get away with 'certain things' because the military will never let it happen.......this is how trump gains control of the military..

Mr. Sparkle

(2,915 posts)
18. One of the biggest scandals yet to break is the amount of good people trump has ousted from
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:28 PM
Feb 2020

government, for petty small things.

usaf-vet

(6,094 posts)
22. Anything Trump touches gets broken or turned to SHIT!
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:16 PM
Feb 2020

Nice job Senators leave this derange individual in the White House as CIC. What an insult to the military.

Calista241

(5,584 posts)
23. I'm not sure Gallagher is all that controversial within the SEAL and Spec Ops communities.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:23 PM
Feb 2020

I listen to a podcast where a (recently) former Navy SEAL interviews him for nearly 3 hours. The podcaster is prominent within the SEAL community, knows a lot of people involved, and the reaction was much less confrontational that has been insinuated elsewhere in the media.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
42. I can tell you from personal knowledge that,
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 09:45 PM
Feb 2020

within the larger SEAL community, Gallagher is persona non gratis.

"Lower than hammered whale shit."

Lonestarblue

(9,883 posts)
25. Our country suffers from the loss of people like this.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:31 PM
Feb 2020

A news story reminded me this morning of the corruption and violence in Mexico, a country whose national government has often been utterly corrupt and a country where lawlessness in many areas has become the norm. As the Republican Party moves our own government into utter corruption and lawlessness from Trump on down to state officials who cheat to win, and where police in many areas feel free to murder minorities without consequences, I wonder how long it will take for the US to become like its southern neighbor.

We have been losing far too many of those in government who could be relied on to hold the fort. We might not have agreed with their politics, but we believed that they would not betray the country. The purge of honorable people is almost complete, including at the National Archives and throughout every government agency where documents that would have told the story of this corrupt administration have purposely been destroyed, including important scientific data. Erasing history is one way of denying proof of the corruption. There will be no real history of this administration. We know that Republicans and Trump supporters will not care. They are perfectly fine with autocracy and the installation of the Republican Party as the permanent rulers of the country.

Jarqui

(10,110 posts)
27. After he steals the 2020 election, he'll need the military to protect him
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:41 PM
Feb 2020

Squeezing good men out like this and replacing them with sycophants helps him tighten his grip on power.

Terrible thing to say when the primaries just started
But he has to know he'll go to jail if he loses 2020 so he'll be pulling out all the stops with a Senate unwilling to remove or stop him.

Traildogbob

(8,584 posts)
34. Roger that Master CHEIF Nance
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:46 PM
Feb 2020

These two Heros certainly make this old salty Ops Soecialist 1rst class vet proud of my Service in the Navy. Have been getting to wonder why I served and disappointed in this country, but these 2 certainly make me remember why I used to be so proud. I hope to be again after these traitorous rat fucks are locked away. BattleStations, General Quarters, all hands to your BattleStations. We will not let this ship go down without a fight, one to honor all that gave all for our country. Time to take the fight to their faces.

58Sunliner

(4,339 posts)
38. Another pause for deep concern.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 07:43 PM
Feb 2020

Orange maggot is doing this on purpose just to cause conflict and hope that people retire, or feel cowed. It's a no win if you have any scruples.

randr

(12,408 posts)
44. Trump is building a private military force that will obey anything he commands
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 10:11 AM
Feb 2020

We are in the deep shit

paparush

(7,964 posts)
45. You know the one guy Trump hasn't beefed with?
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:14 AM
Feb 2020

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Stephen Miller.

Think about that. You never hear of Trump and Miller locking horns over anything. They must walk hand in hand to work every morning; just two white supremacists spending another day fucking over anyone who doesn't look just like them.

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