Fri Jan 31, 2020, 10:15 AM
killaphill (212 posts)
NYPD prepares for massive 'F--- The Police' protest in NYC
Source: New York Daily News
Police are preparing for a massive anti-police protest that could bring chaos to Friday’s morning and afternoon transit commutes, officials said. Protesters are expected to jump turnstiles en masse and tag up train stations throughout the five boroughs during the anti-NYPD rally, titled “F--- The Police III," which is in response to alleged “over-policing” in the subway, including supposed racially-motivated fare-beating arrests and ticketing. Early Friday morning, someone poured Gorilla Glue on the turnstiles at the Borough Hall No. 2 train station, preventing people from swiping their MetroCards, sources said. The tag “Cops Out” was also found at the 72nd St./Central Park West station. More protesters are expected to converge at Grand Central Terminal at 5 p.m. to jump turnstiles and reclaim the subway station, organizers said. Read more: https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-nypd-prepares-for-massive-protest-in-nyc-20200131-ksszmcdc2bawfpyrp3bp7d5kbe-story.html Public transit is just that. Public. And should be free. Hopefully this movement spreads.
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killaphill | Jan 2020 | OP |
bucolic_frolic | Jan 2020 | #1 | |
Polybius | Jan 2020 | #23 | |
lapucelle | Jan 2020 | #27 | |
bucolic_frolic | Jan 2020 | #28 | |
lapucelle | Jan 2020 | #29 | |
bucolic_frolic | Jan 2020 | #30 | |
lapucelle | Jan 2020 | #32 | |
snowybirdie | Jan 2020 | #2 | |
George II | Jan 2020 | #3 | |
killaphill | Jan 2020 | #31 | |
Jake Stern | Jan 2020 | #4 | |
PETRUS | Jan 2020 | #5 | |
stopdiggin | Jan 2020 | #11 | |
PETRUS | Jan 2020 | #13 | |
stopdiggin | Jan 2020 | #14 | |
PETRUS | Jan 2020 | #15 | |
not_the_one | Jan 2020 | #22 | |
PETRUS | Jan 2020 | #24 | |
ArizonaLib | Jan 2020 | #16 | |
The Mouth | Jan 2020 | #7 | |
ArizonaLib | Jan 2020 | #8 | |
SergeStorms | Jan 2020 | #17 | |
ArizonaLib | Jan 2020 | #18 | |
ArizonaLib | Jan 2020 | #9 | |
LanternWaste | Jan 2020 | #10 | |
MarcA | Jan 2020 | #6 | |
Yavin4 | Jan 2020 | #12 | |
Midnight Writer | Jan 2020 | #19 | |
LuvNewcastle | Jan 2020 | #21 | |
DBoon | Jan 2020 | #20 | |
ripcord | Jan 2020 | #25 | |
lapucelle | Jan 2020 | #26 |
Response to killaphill (Original post)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 10:22 AM
bucolic_frolic (22,423 posts)
1. Not taking it sitting down is a good sign
hope they save some of that energy for registering and motivating voters in November
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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #1)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 04:53 PM
Polybius (5,775 posts)
23. The problem is that I don't see them voting for a mainstream Democrat either
They are pissed that the police are stopping those who jump turnstiles, and don't want cops patrolling the subways. Most of these protesters are not mainstream Democrats.
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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #1)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 06:03 PM
lapucelle (11,664 posts)
27. Not taking what sitting down? Police policing the subways?
For those of us who use the subways, police policing the subways is a good thing.
I remember what the 70's were like... New York City’s subway in the late 1970s and 1980s looked like it came straight out of the Walter Hill cult classic, Warriors. Graffiti-laced train carts, poverty-stricken beggars and drug addicts, side by side with colorfully dressed gang members harassing the passengers who gladly give up valuable possessions in exchange for their lives were a normal sight back then.
Crime rates skyrocketed during the 1970s as the NYC subway proved to be the most dangerous transit system in the world. In September 1979, there were 250 felonies reported per week – all going down in the dark hallways of the subway system. https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/07/11/nyc-subway-1970s/ |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #27)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 06:14 PM
bucolic_frolic (22,423 posts)
28. not taking the impeachment sitting down
they're out and about.
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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #28)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 06:15 PM
lapucelle (11,664 posts)
29. This has nothing to do with the impeachment. N/T
Response to lapucelle (Reply #29)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 06:21 PM
bucolic_frolic (22,423 posts)
30. resistance to authority?
You're right, prob not.
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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #30)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 06:30 PM
lapucelle (11,664 posts)
32. This is about banning cops from policing mass transit, as well not having subway fares.
Commuters protesting increased subway policing and fares have begun their day of action against the MTA with vandalism, free swipes and a large black banner that declares, "F--- your $2.75."
Protests mounting across the five boroughs are being organized and documented in part by Decolonize This Place and will culminate with a rally in Grand Central at 5 p.m. Friday, an organizer told Patch. "We want to send this clear message," the organizer said. "We're taking a stand against police." https://patch.com/new-york/new-york-city/subway-police-protest-begins-swipes-vandalism-banners |
Response to killaphill (Original post)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 10:28 AM
snowybirdie (2,703 posts)
2. Not everyone
agrees with this tactic.
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Response to killaphill (Original post)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 10:59 AM
George II (59,964 posts)
3. So far the "massive" protest has been a massive failure.
Response to George II (Reply #3)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 06:25 PM
killaphill (212 posts)
31. Oh yeah?
Check Twitter. The protests are taking off.
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Response to killaphill (Original post)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 11:47 AM
Jake Stern (3,143 posts)
4. It isn't a protest unless you are breaking and vandalizing shit others paid for, amirite?
Willing to bet that at least 3/4 of these "activists" haven't paid a dime in income taxes.
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Response to Jake Stern (Reply #4)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 11:54 AM
PETRUS (3,571 posts)
5. Wow.
All citizens are equal, but some citizens are more equal than others, huh?
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Response to PETRUS (Reply #5)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 01:19 PM
stopdiggin (4,028 posts)
11. because breaking and vandalizing shit
shows you are righteous with the cause. At least I think that's how it goes.
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Response to PETRUS (Reply #13)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 01:44 PM
stopdiggin (4,028 posts)
14. some people support protest
and civil disobedience that doesn't include violence and wanton destruction. I'd be in that camp.
(I don't understand Jake's comment about paying taxes. Not sure where that comes from. Or what it has to do with the protests. I'm guessing he's in yet another camp.) |
Response to stopdiggin (Reply #14)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 01:48 PM
PETRUS (3,571 posts)
15. Gotcha.
I think the moral and tactical issues about violence and property damage are actually quite complicated - too complicated for me to want to deal with here. The income tax comment was what provoked my reaction.
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Response to PETRUS (Reply #15)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 03:37 PM
not_the_one (2,227 posts)
22. You (the protesters) are pissed, so you destroy someone else's property
is "complicated"? No, its not.
Some people just like to stir up shit, and do it by violence and destruction. ANARCHY gets attention, but doesn't solve much. If you have to wear masks or hoods to do your "protest", anonymously, you are cowards. This should help things to go really well with the "improvements" to the MTA, and subway system specifically, since the "Savior" of the system just resigned, after he said he would be here for the duration of the improvement program, when Albany threw him under the bus. The system was grinding to a halt, and New Yorkers were, understandably, pissed. He was helping to make some much needed improvements. So, lets throw gas on the fire... They may be surprised how New Yorkers respond. |
Response to not_the_one (Reply #22)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 05:26 PM
PETRUS (3,571 posts)
24. Well, I have nothing but respect for principled pacifism.
That's the approach I personally prefer. But I still maintain that the issue is complicated. Even Gandhi, who was a strong advocate of nonviolence, thought so. Among the many things he had to say on the topic were "though violence is not lawful, when it is offered in self-defense or for the defense of the defenseless, it is an act of bravery far better than cowardly submission. The latter befits neither man nor woman. Under violence, there are many stages and varieties of bravery. Every man must judge this for himself. No other person can or has the right" and "I would risk violence a thousand times rather than risk the emasculation of the whole race." People suffer (and die) all the the time because of the way the system is constructed, and the system is held together by violence and the threat of violence. Passing judgment one way or the other is difficult for me.
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Response to PETRUS (Reply #13)
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Response to Jake Stern (Reply #4)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:17 PM
The Mouth (2,040 posts)
7. It shows you are sincere.
I mean us middle-class fucks who actually have to go places to work (even weekends), and, like own property or work at business and stuff, we're part of the problem to these fucking Starbucks Anarchists.
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Response to The Mouth (Reply #7)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:47 PM
ArizonaLib (984 posts)
8. My Starbucks experience keeps improving
as the Starbucks hating fascists continue to stay at home watching Fox News. Years ago I never had a preference where I got my coffee until I realized my fellow Starbucks customers behaved more Christ-like and increasingly friendly. Cheers!
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Response to ArizonaLib (Reply #8)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 01:50 PM
SergeStorms (9,901 posts)
17. My experinces have been just the opposite.
I set foot in a Star*ucks once, and swore I'd never do it again. I prefer to go to my local Mom and Pop Coffee Shop, whenever possible, because they use all free trade coffee, roast their beans on-site, and have a local social conscience. The owners, and each and every fellow customer I've ever met, are the most friendly and honest people in my area. Whenever I'm away I'll always seek out local Coffee Shops, even before going to airports, just so I'm not at the mercy of Star*ucks. Conversely, Star*ucks seems a hotbed of pomposity and really terrible tasting coffee. I'm not sure how they process their beans, but the taste - at least in my opinion - leaves much to be desired.
Also, I may destest Star*ucks, but I'm not a fascist, and I could give a shit about anyone's religiosity regarding coffee. ![]() |
Response to SergeStorms (Reply #17)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 01:59 PM
ArizonaLib (984 posts)
18. Funny!
Family owned business is always better. Also, I recommend trying things more than once.
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Response to Jake Stern (Reply #4)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:50 PM
ArizonaLib (984 posts)
9. I think the Pharisees said the same thing
when Jesus protested the money changers in the temple.
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Response to Jake Stern (Reply #4)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:53 PM
LanternWaste (36,780 posts)
10. No. No, you're not right.
But sure... go ahead and tell yourself you know who "they" are; as you ironically illustrate who you are in doing so.
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Response to killaphill (Original post)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:15 PM
MarcA (1,693 posts)
6. This will alienate and harm some of the riders they want to help.
There are more peaceful and informative ways of doing this, but it probably
wouldn't get as much MSM coverage. |
Response to killaphill (Original post)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 01:26 PM
Yavin4 (31,827 posts)
12. I have an idea. Try voting.
Even better, work for a candidate that shares your agenda.
Even better, better, run for office yourself. All of these ideas are betting than hurting your fellow working class members. |
Response to killaphill (Original post)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 02:45 PM
Midnight Writer (9,885 posts)
19. Good idea. Let's remove police from the subway stations.
Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #19)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 03:30 PM
LuvNewcastle (12,120 posts)
21. Abolish the police department!
Let the mob run the city. I'm sure paying protection money would be cheaper than paying for fares on public transit, right?
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Response to killaphill (Original post)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 03:22 PM
DBoon (17,635 posts)
20. has someone transported us back to 1969?
Except the Yippies actually had a sense of humor
That or "Fuck the Police" is actually a punk band from 1979 |
Response to killaphill (Original post)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 05:33 PM
ripcord (1,621 posts)
25. So they are protesting for the right to jump turnstiles?
Response to killaphill (Original post)
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 05:56 PM
lapucelle (11,664 posts)