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highplainsdem

(48,969 posts)
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:08 AM Sep 2012

Romney tells Iowa voters he’ll ‘just have to come down hard’ on Obama in debates

Source: Des Moines Register

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney told Iowans in a telephone conference call tonight that he’ll have to “come down hard” on President Obama in the upcoming debates about claims in campaign advertising.

-snip-

Romney thanked Stan for bringing the ads to his attention, as if he hadn’t heard about them.

“So I appreciate, Stan, your making me aware of those ads. I know our team, our campaign team sees what he has out there but we may need to go out there and refute what he is saying,” Romney said, referring to President Obama.

“Of course, I get the chance in the debate to do that as well. He’ll probably reiterate some of those arguments and those statements and I’ll just have to come down hard and say, ‘Mr. President, you know that’s not true.’ And you hope to see something better than that from the person who’s serving as president of the United States,…” Romney said.

-snip-

Read more: http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2012/09/23/romney-tells-iowa-voters-hell-just-have-to-come-down-hard-on-obama-in-debates/



Good article from the Register's political columnist, Kathie Obradovich.

Romney told "Stan from Sioux City" that he would "have no cut whatsoever in funding or changes in programs for either Social Security or Medicare." This followed Romney telling "“Betty from Marshalltown,” who said she was in a nursing home, that there'd be no changes for her, but changes for younger people.

The first questions came from "Doug in Dubuque" who said he was a Teamster and a Romney backer, but wanted more details about what Romney would do.

Romney's answer to that was to tell Doug to buy a copy of his book "Believe in America" to get his 59-point plan.

"The thing is," Obradovich writes, "the details in Romney’s 59-point plan are the not the same details that media outlets keep talking about that are missing from Romney’s plans."

She concludes, "Romney tonight passed up another chance to offer more specifics about his tax and Medicare plans. Maybe we’ll have to wait and see who really comes down hard in the debates."

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Romney tells Iowa voters he’ll ‘just have to come down hard’ on Obama in debates (Original Post) highplainsdem Sep 2012 OP
"Buy a copy of my book..." truthisfreedom Sep 2012 #1
Yeah, really ... surrealAmerican Sep 2012 #28
'Gonna Put That Negro Boy In His Place', Sir, Is The Plain English Of It The Magistrate Sep 2012 #2
That's right..mitt is so Cha Sep 2012 #18
Yes. This. Lucy Goosey Sep 2012 #26
latest.. kardonb Sep 2012 #31
Mittens is going to "come down hard" on OBAMA over untruthful ads??? beac Sep 2012 #3
Rmoney is no match for Obama in debating, but his arrogance won't let him understand it. Bozita Sep 2012 #4
I'm sure the president is quaking. Fearless Sep 2012 #5
Still, the president need bone up on Mitt's attack lines . cyclezealot Sep 2012 #17
"I DID NOT ASK YOU A QUESTION"! aletier_v Sep 2012 #6
The Chief will "put a whoopin' on the man!" as Muhammad Ali would say. n/t brewens Sep 2012 #7
Mitt is gonna walk onto that stage and flat out have the HAMMER dropped on his empty head... Volaris Sep 2012 #8
Do you really think so? CoffeeCat Sep 2012 #11
He did well debating during the repub primary because he was debating idiots. Indpndnt Sep 2012 #14
I got that call from Romney tonight... CoffeeCat Sep 2012 #9
Mittens will be all twitchy and shit... SoapBox Sep 2012 #10
I'd like to see Ann Romney debate Michelle Obama csziggy Sep 2012 #30
It will be a like a word salad buffet. Nothing will be learned but he will waste a lot of air time. silvershadow Sep 2012 #12
He's counting on the debates? Obama will open his chest and shit in his lungs. He'll be reduced to Monk06 Sep 2012 #13
He is speaking as though he's bullshitting shareholders of a terminally ill corporation he owns. nt greyl Sep 2012 #15
So Romney Plans On Scolding President Obama DallasNE Sep 2012 #16
Speaking of the debates.. mitt is taking steps Cha Sep 2012 #19
He's going to be aggressive-- maybe even call the President a liar andym Sep 2012 #20
Mitts book tour. Historic NY Sep 2012 #21
Romney will "come down hard" -translation- Romney will crash and burn machI Sep 2012 #22
I'm looking forward to the debates Franker65 Sep 2012 #23
The Romney campaign will be used in school text books BootinUp Sep 2012 #24
I want FactCheckers on stage SCVDem Sep 2012 #25
Rather prophetic of the old mitster randr Sep 2012 #27
I really don't think this debate is going to be good for President Obama unless bonniebgood Sep 2012 #29
When are the debates? HeeBGBz Sep 2012 #32
I try to keep current with political events and don't think I'm exaggerating when I say spiderpig Sep 2012 #33
He's been holding back?? randome Sep 2012 #34
Faux will give Dubya Mitt a "win" for merely showing up and answering softballs. HughBeaumont Sep 2012 #35
This will backfire Ash_F Sep 2012 #36
All I can say to Mitt is to Bring it On... Grammy23 Sep 2012 #37
I wonder how long it will take for Mittens to have a McCainesque "THAT ONE!" moment? NICO9000 Sep 2012 #38

truthisfreedom

(23,145 posts)
1. "Buy a copy of my book..."
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:11 AM
Sep 2012

"I'm not going to tell you anything, but I'd love to make a profit from your curiosity as I confuse you with my book's doublespeak."

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
28. Yeah, really ...
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:50 AM
Sep 2012

... is this a political campaign or a book tour?


I guess it's to be expected from him. Win or lose, he will make a profit.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
2. 'Gonna Put That Negro Boy In His Place', Sir, Is The Plain English Of It
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:17 AM
Sep 2012

This is so tiresome, and so predictable....

Lucy Goosey

(2,940 posts)
26. Yes. This.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:39 AM
Sep 2012

I wonder if there's any chance Romney has a debate meltdown and actually calls the President "boy" (or worse) to his face? I don't think it's impossible.

 

kardonb

(777 posts)
31. latest..
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:53 PM
Sep 2012

Robme will come down hard , alright . When President Obama knocks out what little stuffing is left in him .

beac

(9,992 posts)
3. Mittens is going to "come down hard" on OBAMA over untruthful ads???
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:18 AM
Sep 2012


Somehow, I don't think that's gonna be good for your "welfare", Mittwit!

Bozita

(26,955 posts)
4. Rmoney is no match for Obama in debating, but his arrogance won't let him understand it.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:47 AM
Sep 2012

That's what happens when you surround yourself with sycophants.

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
17. Still, the president need bone up on Mitt's attack lines .
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:25 AM
Sep 2012

Mitt's economics is Bush on steroids. Bush caused the mess. Imagine what kind of mess Mitt would make.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
8. Mitt is gonna walk onto that stage and flat out have the HAMMER dropped on his empty head...
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:55 AM
Sep 2012

That he doesn't even know it's coming is going to make it all the sweeter to watch happen on LIVE NATIONAL TELEVISION.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
11. Do you really think so?
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:16 AM
Sep 2012

I love to hear this, because I am very worried about the debates. I know that Obama has the truth on his side. These Republicans live in a Fox News bubble, where their lies win every unaccountable, freak-show discussion they have.

Romney won't be able to repeat Fox News talking points--because he'll look like insane.

I think Romney is an ok debater. He did well during the Republican primary.

I'd love to hear more about your positive prognostications. I want to have more hope about this.

I do know that Obama is a skilled debater. He also has reason and the truth on this side. Also, I think Romney could be ready for a padded cell by the time the first debate hits--if his campaign keeps spiraling into the ditch.

Would love to hear more!

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
14. He did well debating during the repub primary because he was debating idiots.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:02 AM
Sep 2012

It wasn't difficult. It certainly wasn't factual. He even tried to bet Perry $10K over something - because that's 'normal' behavior.

All of the debates will be fun to watch. Not fun for Willard, though, especially if he loses his temper. He has had softball questions thrown at him for months. He's not ready for Obama to contradict him over and over again.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
9. I got that call from Romney tonight...
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:12 AM
Sep 2012

I live in Iowa, and I got the call tonight about the "town-hall meeting" via telephone. I put him on speaker phone and my 11 and 12 year old daughters kept saying, "Ask him why he put his dog on the roof of his car! Ask him, Mom!"

I thought that was funny (yet sad). Even tweens know that the man is insane.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
10. Mittens will be all twitchy and shit...
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:16 AM
Sep 2012

I so want to see the President kick Mittens ass around but it's gonna be hard to see Mittens up there SQUIRMING and blinking real fast...

So what was the outcome of the application to have Queen Ann on stage with him during the debates?

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
13. He's counting on the debates? Obama will open his chest and shit in his lungs. He'll be reduced to
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:54 AM
Sep 2012

a stuttering idiot like McCain.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
16. So Romney Plans On Scolding President Obama
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:44 AM
Sep 2012

Like he scolded the teacher in Colorado when he retorted "I didn't ask you a question".

That is a fine line Romney is trying to walk. One that could easily backfire.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
19. Speaking of the debates.. mitt is taking steps
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:38 AM
Sep 2012

to set it up that he, mitt, will have a challenge because Pres Obama..

Towards the end of the interview, however, Romney looked ahead to the upcoming debates and said he'll have a challenge to deal with: "he president tends to, how shall I say it, to say things that aren't true."


http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/09/14/13865583-chronicling-mitts-mendacity-vol-xxxiv?lite

Now Steve Benen has accumulated Volume XXXV of Mitt's LIES.. With this caveat..

I thought many months ago that it was at least possible that Mitt Romney would be more cautious about telling falsehoods as the election drew closer. After all, candidates can get away with more in, say, April than in September -- there's far more scrutiny now.

Alas, Romney seems unfazed, both by the calendar and by life under a microscope -- he keeps repeating falsehoods without any real concern for consequences. In case there were any doubts about his worst habit, consider the 35th installment of my weekly series, chronicling Mitt's mendacity


The LIES..http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/09/21/14015581-chronicling-mitts-mendacity-vol-xxxv?lite

I say President Obama and his Team are taking note of Mitt's Sociopathic Tour and Pres O will be READY to Rumble.



andym

(5,443 posts)
20. He's going to be aggressive-- maybe even call the President a liar
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:44 AM
Sep 2012

Also, will try to say that Obama is slandering him.

If he tries that in the debate, I think that should just about finish Romney off.

machI

(1,285 posts)
22. Romney will "come down hard" -translation- Romney will crash and burn
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 05:50 AM
Sep 2012

The hand writing is on the wall:
    [font size=8][font face=maxell]
    Romney is going to lose and lose big
[/font][/font]

He might as well just enjoy the ride because it is his last excursion before the public.

BootinUp

(47,141 posts)
24. The Romney campaign will be used in school text books
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:09 AM
Sep 2012

in the future: this is how not to do it....like in the 2012 Romney campaign.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
25. I want FactCheckers on stage
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:32 AM
Sep 2012

and I want all electronic voting secured by the FBI and Homeland Security to ensure there is no cheating.

We are talking about the 50% division of America and there can be NO question about its accuracy.

Isn't that what we preach to other countries? No more Florida or Ohio cheats!

bonniebgood

(940 posts)
29. I really don't think this debate is going to be good for President Obama unless
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:22 AM
Sep 2012

Obama have a tape recording loaded with Romney saying the opposite. Remember the fox viewers
have only seen the lies. example: Romney: " he has taken a bad economy and made it worse". the next
he says " I never said he made it worse". The way I see it. it is going to be impossible to debate a moving lying target.
It would not be wise for the President to use the whole debate saying in response: " thats not true". in stead of "you are lying"

This has to be the first debate in history that uses technology, roll the tape moments in Romney's voice with time- lines and dates.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
33. I try to keep current with political events and don't think I'm exaggerating when I say
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:39 PM
Sep 2012

I can't recall Mittens ever coming across as anything except a smarmy, insulting, condescending boor.

(Stocking up on popcorn for October 3)

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
35. Faux will give Dubya Mitt a "win" for merely showing up and answering softballs.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:06 PM
Sep 2012

Everyone else is going to see Mitt as a petulant spoiled brat who is about as uncomfortable speaking to the American people as the average person is rolling around in fiberglass insulation.

This is going to be an assbeating of monumental proportions. I don't take Republican candidates seriously. AT all. It's not even "Bewsh" levels anymore . . . we're an hour past that. The GOP is a clown car loaded to capacity with the most hyper-capitalist, racist, class-war-launching, illogical, non-trustworthy, absolutist, unempathetic bunch of shitsacks this side of Paul Weyrich.

Rather than go moderate, they'll never lose the Reagan/Bush-on-Steroids playbook because they'll never learn from their many, many mistakes. So this is who they're stuck with from now on.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
37. All I can say to Mitt is to Bring it On...
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:57 PM
Sep 2012

I think Obama is up to the task and won't be afraid to respond just as firmly. I fully expect Mittens to give answers like he gave last night on his 60 Minutes interview where his response about his "big thing" was Freedom. Made me want to gag. He wants to restore our Freedoms? Why do these A$$holes think they have to run to the flag, mother and apple pie when they are asked questions like that? I suppose if you have NO GOOD answers, you just pull out the Flag, FREEDOM and Patriotism. And some people will fall for that and think he gave a GOOD answer, particularly since there are folks in this country who genuinely believe our FREEDOMS have been sacrificed by Obama. I wonder how many of them think about the freedoms we lost thanks to Bush and his gang? And they pulled the wool so far over our eyes that we shuffle through the line at the airport, removing our shoes, coats, belts, jewelry, cell phones, laptops and coins in our pockets all to keep us "safer". Many gladly consent to being treated like a criminal for no good reason other than some jackass in Washington says it's our best defense against the terrorists. The Romney supporters will like his simplistic answer if it fits into their world view and he makes them "feel good about America". Thank goodness President Obama has a just a tad bit more depth to his understanding of the world.

NICO9000

(970 posts)
38. I wonder how long it will take for Mittens to have a McCainesque "THAT ONE!" moment?
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 04:49 PM
Sep 2012

Probably within the first 30 minutes at most.

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