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Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:04 AM

CIA chief 'behind Soleimani's assassination' killed in downed plane in Afghanistan

Source: Middle East Monitor

Russian intelligence sources have claimed that Michael D’Andrea, head of CIA operations in Iran and who orchestrated the assassination of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani, was killed in a US spy plane downed yesterday in Ghazni, Afghanistan.

The plane with US Air Force markings reportedly served as the CIA’s mobile command for D’Andrea, who earnt several nicknames including: Ayatollah Mike, the Dark Prince, and the Undertaker. He is one of the most prominent CIA figures in the region, appointed head of the agency’s Iran Mission Centre in 2017. Under his leadership, the agency was perceived to take a more “aggressive stance toward Iran”.

The Taliban claimed to have shot down the plane but have yet to provide evidence, whilst the US has denied the claim but has acknowledged the loss of a Bombardier E-11A plane in central Afghanistan. Graphic images online have already circulated purportedly showing some of the charred remains of those on board.

Afghan authorities initially claimed the plane was a state-owned airline, but this was denied by the company, Ariana. Helicopters have been brought down before by the Taliban, but they are not believed to have the capabilities required to bring down a high-flying aircraft.


Read more: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200128-cia-chief-behind-soleimanis-assassination-killed-in-downed-plane-in-afghanistan/

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Reply CIA chief 'behind Soleimani's assassination' killed in downed plane in Afghanistan (Original post)
True_Blue Jan 28 OP
DeminPennswoods Jan 28 #1
exboyfil Jan 28 #2
fleur-de-lisa Jan 28 #3
hlthe2b Jan 28 #14
christx30 Jan 28 #38
bigbrother05 Jan 28 #31
Ilsa Jan 28 #4
iluvtennis Jan 28 #5
Nasruddin Jan 28 #6
dalton99a Jan 28 #7
Wellstone ruled Jan 28 #17
Sanity Claws Jan 28 #8
2naSalit Jan 28 #41
Baitball Blogger Jan 28 #9
Lulu KC Jan 28 #10
gab13by13 Jan 28 #16
onetexan Jan 28 #42
marble falls Jan 28 #11
yaesu Jan 28 #12
Sapient Donkey Jan 28 #13
ancianita Jan 28 #35
Bayard Jan 28 #15
Jedi Guy Jan 28 #22
hack89 Jan 28 #18
lostnfound Jan 28 #19
True_Blue Jan 28 #25
barbtries Jan 28 #20
cyndensco Jan 28 #24
Javaman Jan 28 #21
Wednesdays Jan 28 #23
mylightningtoo Jan 28 #26
Duppers Jan 28 #44
Botany Jan 28 #27
SayItLoud Jan 28 #28
crickets Jan 28 #48
OAITW r.2.0 Jan 28 #29
NRaleighLiberal Jan 28 #30
padah513 Jan 28 #34
JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 28 #43
pangaia Jan 28 #32
SunSeeker Jan 28 #33
greenjar_01 Jan 28 #36
James48 Jan 28 #37
Perseus Jan 28 #39
58Sunliner Jan 28 #40
Bradical79 Jan 28 #45
greyl Jan 28 #46
greenjar_01 Jan 29 #49
greyl Jan 29 #50
greenjar_01 Jan 29 #51
roamer65 Jan 28 #47
discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2 #53
wishstar Feb 2 #52

Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:07 AM

1. Live by violence, die by violence

(assuming this report is true)

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:07 AM

2. I wonder if the Trumpster leaked information

that allowed this plane to be downed. It is not like he can't help bragging.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:11 AM

3. It's sad that this is a possibility in the age of trump.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:31 AM

14. Hardly an unlikely possibility...

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #14)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:39 PM

38. Pretty much a near certainty when the idiot in charge

likes to shoot his mouth off e dry chance he gets. Loved to impress people with the crap he knows about.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:54 PM

31. Sources and methods leak when you plan in the restaurant

With all your "friends I've never met before" surrounding you with their phones set to record.

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:12 AM

4. This is a big deal.

More news on this coming, I'm sure.

Look what trump has got us into.

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:12 AM

5. Why haven't we heard anything on this from trump admin - inquiring minds want to know.

trump has started a shit show. there was no reason for him to take out Soleimani.

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:13 AM

6. Interesting

Ghazni is in the Persian language area of Afghanistan. One wonders ....

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:17 AM

7. Footage of the crashed plane:

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:34 AM

17. Interesting Hole in the

Engine. Hmmmm.

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:17 AM

8. Killing those who know things

Putin's tactics done on behalf of Putin's Trump team.

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 02:16 PM

41. Couldn't stop that idea

from being the first to enter my mind. I was suspicious when I read about it last night.

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:18 AM

9. Wow.

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:22 AM

10. Seems very interesting the day after the rockets hit the US Embassy in Baghdad

And none of this is in the headlines that I'm seeing.

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Response to Lulu KC (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:34 AM

16. Trump needs to get his story straight with Russia,

maybe Russia shot it down? The guy knew too much.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 02:17 PM

42. spot on, this is much more surreal than any spy movie

chilling at that

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:23 AM

11. Soon to be a fantasy show on Fox.

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:25 AM

12. tRump probably couldn't get on the phone fast enough to his love putin to spill the beans. nt

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:28 AM

13. Well that's an interesting coincidence

How often do CIA station chiefs die like this?

If it was shot down and he was targeted, then that must be pretty unnerving to people in certain job roles.


How well known was his involvement and how much of the assassination was seen as his thing? If he was the primary name attached to it, is it possible this all some sort of subterfuge to protect him? Too hollywood-thinking? Probably. Never mind.

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Response to Sapient Donkey (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:19 PM

35. Nope. Silence of Western media means you're probably reading it right.

Interesting coincidences keep piling up to the benefit of Putin's Eurasian Project. We need to slot them away for future reference.

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:32 AM

15. Right on time

Knocking off witnesses and co-conspirators. They, "earnt" it (what the hell is that?)

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Response to Bayard (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:04 PM

22. British version of "earned."

I've seen "learned" written as "learnt" in some documents written by people from the UK.

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:45 AM

18. I call bull shit

the plane is a communications relay plane - the system it carries is called Battlefield Airborne Communications Node (BACN). They are a common sight in Afghanstan.

It would not be flying a CIA station head around. It is not a transport plane. Plus the CIA has a fleet of jets of their own.

BACN was deployed on a test platform Bombardier BD-700 and originally designated as the RC-700A under the reconnaissance classification. The aircraft was later re-designated as the E-11A under the special electronics installation category.[12] The BD-700 was selected due to its high service ceiling (up to 51,000 ft) and flight duration (up to 12 hours). These flight characteristics are critical in providing unified datalink and voice networks in the mountainous terrain encountered in the current theater of operations. Additional E-11As have been deployed to increase availability and flexibility. These have been used in operations in Afghanistan.[13]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_Airborne_Communications_Node

The Air Force has a total of four E-11As, including the one that has now crashed. These planes are based on the Bombardier BD-700 Global Express business jet, which are forward-deployed in Afghanistan assigned to the 430th Expeditionary Electronic Combat Squadron at Kandahar Airfield.

These aircraft carry the Battlefield Airborne Control Node (BACN) payload, which allows them to act as highly specialized aerial communications nodes that can rapidly shift information to and from a wide variety of airborne platforms and forces on the ground. There are also three EQ-4B Global Hawk drones that carry the BACN package.


https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31969/highly-specialized-air-force-e-11a-communications-aircraft-crashes-and-burns-in-afghanistan

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:48 AM

19. Any other sources on this? Real or fake news? Nt

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:49 AM

20. a quick google search

did not verify this.
if it's true, it is alarming.

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Response to barbtries (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:17 PM

24. The sources listed on Google are from middle eastern sources.

Interesting though, it was first mentioned on Reddit 20 hours ago:

Unconfirmed reports that the CIA head of anti-Iran operations, Michael D'Andrea aka Ayatollah Mike, was on board the plane that crashed near Ghazni, Afghanistan this morning. D'Andrea also masterminded the murder of Imad Mughniyeh, former Hezbollah Chief of Staff, back in 2008. (twitter.com)
submitted 20 hours ago by samanwilson


https://www.reddit.com/r/iranian/comments/eutsw6/unconfirmed_reports_that_the_cia_head_of_antiiran/


So if true, our gov't must have known about it for a while. The rumor - if it is a false - could have been dispelled hours ago.

I agree. It is alarming.

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:58 AM

21. tying up loose ends. nt

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:16 PM

23. Dead men tell no tales. nm

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:27 PM

26. This can be confirmed or denied if the

mainstream media stays focused on it. At some point someone is going to wonder where Mr. D'Andrea is if he isn't showing up for his appointments.

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Response to mylightningtoo (Reply #26)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 03:03 PM

44. Wikipedia has him listed as dead...

But no cause of death as of yet.

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:42 PM

27. Did Russia get info from Trump or on their own and pass it on to the Taliban in order to target ...

Last edited Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:38 PM - Edit history (1)

... D'Andrea? Or did Russia clue Iran in on D'Andrea's where about for some payback?

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:45 PM

28. #TrumpsWar

IMO Iran surrogates behind this. Just the beginning of Iranian payback. Buckle up.

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Response to SayItLoud (Reply #28)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:22 PM

48. That was my first thought. Not enough corroboration/details yet, but seems likely. nt

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:51 PM

29. Bookmarked to follow.

Hoping we see more sourcing on this. Troubling if true.

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:53 PM

30. we are all in a Robert Ludlum book

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #30)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:17 PM

34. Yes!!!

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #30)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 02:26 PM

43. With Trump, we are all in a Spy vs Spy cartoon.

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:05 PM

32. "... D'Andrea, who earnt several nicknames .."

earnt ?

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:15 PM

33. As Malcolm Nance says, coincidences take a lot of planning. nt

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:23 PM

36. Every Iran expert said it would happen this way

Not a big strike in retribution for Soleimani, but years of little revenges.

All it takes is an Iranian operative to provide the right capability, information, and hardware.

This is a pretty big L for the US if true.

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:35 PM

37. Interesting.

Never heard of D’Andrea before.

If he really was on the plane, it is interesting Russia had the info first.

Or it could have been that the guy IS a CIA station s Chief, killed elsewhere, and the CIA is using the plane dead has a cover story. Which would have the Russians in on it.

Fascinating.

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:41 PM

39. How convenient...Was there anything this guy knew that needed to stay under wraps?

I wonder...All these years avoiding injury, but now, right after the "kill", he is suddenly downed...

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 02:08 PM

40. Unfortunately we have no idea what really happened.

We are now living with a govt that we think is capable of such an assassination.

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Response to 58Sunliner (Reply #40)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:30 PM

45. Hell, we have a President that could have leaked details himself

Wouldn't be the first time he's compromised our own people just bragging about things to Russians and other evil buddies.

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:56 PM

46. Pic of Zero Dark Thirty actor used in theory that CIA official killed in plane crash in Afghanistan.

Original title: Iranian state TV used a photo of an actor from 'Zero Dark Thirty' to spread a wild theory that a senior CIA official was killed in a plane crash in Afghanistan


Iran's state TV broadcast a photo of an actor from"Zero Dark Thirty" to illustrate a claim that the CIA officer that inspired the character had been killed.

On Monday, the US military confirmed an E-11A surveillance plane crashed in Ghanzi, eastern Afghanistan. The Taliban, who control the region, say several top CIA operatives were killed, and have since denied access to the crash site.

One of those CIA operatives was Michael D'Andrea, state TV said, according to BBC Monitoring, which first reported the claims made on Iranian TV.

Iranian TV did not provide any evidence for its claim that D'Andrea was killed Monday.

More: https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-image-zero-dark-thirty-actor-claim-cia-agent-death-2020-1



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Response to greyl (Reply #46)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 01:34 AM

49. But is he alive tho?

The dude not the actor?

No word on that yet, I guess.

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #49)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 01:39 AM

50. Undetermined. nt

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Response to greyl (Reply #50)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 09:08 AM

51. A curious silence

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:03 PM

47. If you live by the sword, you shall indeed die by it.

Jesus had that one right.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #47)

Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:44 AM

53. Have you read Luke 22?

36 "But now," he said, "take a duffle bag if you have one and your money. And if you don’t have a sword, better sell your clothes and buy one!"
From the modern language Living Bible.

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Response to True_Blue (Original post)

Sun Feb 2, 2020, 04:17 AM

52. US states NO CIA, only 2 US Air Force onboard, Per new Time magazine report:

https://time.com/5775758/military-crash-cia-disinformation/

The wreckage of a U.S. military plane that crashed and burned in a snowy mountainous region in Afghanistan on Monday was still fresh when Iranian state TV ran a story claiming a top CIA officer was among the dead. Like all good propaganda, the story was mostly false, but with a scintilla of truth. Two American service members had been killed when the U.S. Air Force jet slammed into the snowy ground, but U.S. officials insist there was no CIA onboard.

The U.S. military says it could not have gotten the news out sooner. But the Iranian version of events that circulated in the information vacuum had people inside and outside the U.S. wondering who to believe. The Trump Administration’s now-familiar pattern of slow, incomplete and sometimes disingenuous responses to events has ground down public and internal trust of its messaging and created an opportunity for adversaries like Iran and Russia to spread disinformation and sow confusion among allies and U.S. officials. The wrong information can spread about an event whether it happened on a remote Afghan mountainside or a maximum-security American compound. “If false reports are not authoritatively or convincingly disproven, they can take on a life of their own,” James Cunningham, former U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan told TIME. “Once that happens, it’s very hard to undo that.”

Critics and some U.S. officials say the growing dearth of trust in America’s word is symptomatic of an Administration led by a President who calls journalists “the enemy of the people”, frequently labels factual or unflattering news coverage as “fake news”, and has himself made more than 12,000 false or misleading statements during his tenure, according to a count by The Washington Post. A trust gap has formed between journalists and Administration spokespeople who often see challenging questions as political attacks, and treat offending outlets with disdain.

Overall, there are fewer on-record press briefings in the Pentagon, the State Department, the White House and other agencies in this Administration, says a former senior Trump Administration official. He says that’s due in part to the top-down nature of the Administration and in part to subordinates’ efforts to protect the President. There is an internal battle afoot with some senior Administration officials arguing for more public briefings, and while the White House Press Secretary hasn’t briefed from the podium since March 2019, the Pentagon and State Department have resumed holding more frequent press conferences to win back that global public trust. But it’s an uphill battle against the megaphone of the Twitter presidency —and the active disinformation campaigns being waged overseas against the U.S. “No one believes us anymore,” one frustrated senior U.S. official said.



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