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Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:43 PM

Doctor at hospital in Wuhan dies after treating patients with coronavirus

Source: New York Post

A doctor working at a hospital in Wuhan, China ó treating patients stricken with the coronavirus ó died Saturday morning.

Liang Wudong, 62, died after he was infected with Wuhan coronavirus.

Wudong retired last year from his position as the head of the ear, nose and throat department at one of Wuhanís top hospitals, the Hubei Provincial Hospital of Integrated Chinese & Western Medicine, The Wall Street Journal reported.

The doctor fell ill last week and was transferred to the Wuhan Medical Treatment Center, also known as Jinyintan Hospital.

Read more: https://nypost.com/2020/01/25/doctor-at-hospital-in-wuhan-dies-after-treating-patients-with-coronavirus/



I know it's the NY Post, but there are other foreign sources

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Reply Doctor at hospital in Wuhan dies after treating patients with coronavirus (Original post)
alittlelark Jan 25 OP
LonePirate Jan 25 #1
GreenPartyVoter Jan 25 #2
LonePirate Jan 25 #3
GreenPartyVoter Jan 25 #4
cstanleytech Jan 25 #17
LonePirate Jan 25 #20
cstanleytech Jan 25 #21
LonePirate Jan 25 #22
cstanleytech Jan 25 #23
LonePirate Jan 25 #24
cstanleytech Jan 25 #27
Dream Girl Jan 25 #30
cstanleytech Jan 25 #34
yaesu Jan 25 #5
jpak Jan 25 #6
yaesu Jan 25 #8
EndlessWire Jan 25 #11
yaesu Jan 25 #16
cstanleytech Jan 25 #18
BigmanPigman Jan 25 #13
cstanleytech Jan 25 #19
emmaverybo Jan 25 #28
BigmanPigman Jan 25 #31
cstanleytech Jan 25 #35
BigmanPigman Jan 25 #37
Sgent Jan 25 #15
Fla Dem Jan 25 #7
yaesu Jan 25 #9
BigmanPigman Jan 25 #14
Fla Dem Jan 25 #26
Laurian Jan 25 #10
benld74 Jan 25 #12
cstanleytech Jan 25 #36
Maxheader Jan 25 #25
Yeehah Jan 25 #29
Recursion Jan 25 #32
The_REAL_Ecumenist Jan 25 #33
MicaelS Jan 25 #38
Baclava Jan 25 #40
NickB79 Jan 26 #41
Baclava Jan 25 #39
Laffy Kat Jan 26 #42
Ilsa Jan 27 #43

Response to alittlelark (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:51 PM

1. This is very troubling news indeed. This outbreak is about to get much, much worse.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:12 PM

2. Yes, ppl coming in from retirement, building a 1000 bed hospital in a couple of weeks,

not good signs.

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Response to GreenPartyVoter (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:22 PM

3. Older but not old. Experienced and knowledgeable. Likely didn't treat the first wave of victims.

This is some scary stuff.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:29 PM

4. Indeed.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:21 PM

17. Why is it troubling more so than other viral outbreaks? After all typically the most deaths

for other viral outbreaks has been the elderly, children and the disabled.
That's not to say it's always the case of course as there have been some cases where a virus outbreak mostly killed otherwise healthy young adults but generally speaking that's rare.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:52 PM

20. All reports so far suggest the transmission rate and the death rate are higher than other outbreaks.

Plus, there are underlying suspicions that the Chinese government is underreporting the severity of the outbreak, including the number of cases and deaths.

The only positive news so far about the outbreak is the man in Washington state who has survived at least 5-7 days with the virus and does not appear to be worsening, as of yet.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:33 PM

21. " death rate are higher than other outbreaks." The 2017-2018 flu outbreak might have been worse

as it saw about 900,000 people ending up in the hospital and about 80,000 died.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #21)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:43 PM

22. 10% of the US get the flu every year (3.3M) so if 80K die, that's a 2.4% death rate.

So far, the death rate of this virus is somewhere between 3-5%, that we know of.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #22)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:45 PM

23. Its to early to tell though if that rate will hold or if it will drop once they develop

a line of treatment.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #23)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:50 PM

24. True but the virus will spread faster than any possible treatment will.

It is a race against time now. Can it be contained before it strikes more people or mutates into an even worse threat. Or will a treatment be found fast enough and be mass produced fast enough to save lives.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #24)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:24 PM

27. That is probably part of the reason why China is being so aggressive in trying to stop the spread

now as they have a very large population and their cities are packed tight with people.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:33 PM

30. 61 is not what I think of as "elderly"

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Response to Dream Girl (Reply #30)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:42 PM

34. Like anything it depends on if he had any current health problems as well.

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Response to alittlelark (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:41 PM

5. From what I have heard & read the virus is mainly killing elderly men who aren't in the best of

health. As what we have see in past viruses they seem to effect a certain age group the worst, the Spanish flu effected those in their 20's the worst. Corona has been around a long time both in animals & people but this is the first strain that we know of that has made the jump between species so who knows at this point, lets hope it doesn't turn into the perfect storm like the Spanish flu.

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Response to yaesu (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:05 PM

6. That is not good news for Maine - the oldest state in the nation

I'm stocking up so I don't have to leave the house - if it comes here.

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Response to jpak (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:24 PM

8. I understand but my gut feeling is that this will not become a full brown epidemic

Viruses change so it may become less virulent & more like the average corona that people would normally get and that type has always effected the elderly the worst as it causes both upper & lower respiratory inventions at the same time. No reason to believe the strain will become more virulent. I don't think there is a vaccine for human sars-C0V but there is for the canine version.

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Response to jpak (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:33 PM

11. LOL! n/t

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Response to EndlessWire (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:38 PM

16. strange times we live in nt

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Response to jpak (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:26 PM

18. You're certainly free to do that but if it follows the same pattern like the bird flu it will

not get that bad as long as measures are taken to slow the spread so that it burns itself out.

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Response to yaesu (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:53 PM

13. The Spanish flu spread so quickly too.

In Phila there was a parade and a few weeks after that thousands died. Then a few weeks later there were no more sick people....the virus was gone. Schools, etc were moved outside for fresh air. More people died in 24 weeks than all those who died from AIDS in 24 years .

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:28 PM

19. Yeah but don't forget back then there was still a rather significant time delay

in communication from one country to another especially about spreading the news about a viral outbreak.
These days we have satellite communications which make informing other countries about an outbreak far faster and countries can also share treatment plans far easier as well.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:26 PM

28. WW 1 troops getting sick made a major contribution to the spread.

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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #28)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:48 PM

31. Yep, I read that there were two "waves" of the epidemic

and the troops moving certainly didn't help things. Humans learned how to have better control of "body fluids" when it was discovered that sneezing, coughing and spitting spread it too. There were even posters printed to tell people to stop spitting and to cover your mouth.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #31)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:46 PM

35. In other words if common sense approaches are taken it can reduce the spread

as viruses need a host to survive and propagate.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #35)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:57 PM

37. Yes, but at the time they didn't know

that those things spread germs so quickly. When the normal age to catch it and die was 34 years old people started to realize that this was a different virus since it was killing the normally healthiest of the population and it didn't make sense. Fresh air, washing hands as well as wearing masks were the best thing to battle it at the time. The female nurses and the Red Cross saved the day in many cities as there were too few doctors and people were afraid to catch it themselves.

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Response to yaesu (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:10 PM

15. SARS and MERS

were both Corona viruses that mad the jump. SARS had a death rate of ~3%, Spanish Flu about 2%, and the regular flue about 0.1%.

We are not out of the woods yet.

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Response to alittlelark (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:17 PM

7. This is getting scary. Wash your hands whenever you leave your home and touch anything.

No shaking hands, use wipes on grocery carts. This just seems to be much more dire than some of the other outbreaks of viruses. I'm not sure authorities have a handle on just how many people have traveled with the virus but showed no symptoms and are now walking among us..

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Response to Fla Dem (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:28 PM

9. Coronavirus can be spread through coughing and sneezing on somebody else who is within a range of

about 3 to 6 feet from that person in addition to touching someone infested or a service contaminated with the virus.

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Response to yaesu (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:55 PM

14. I'd wear my blue face mask but I wrote

"TRUMP" on it with a red circle with a slash through his name (for an ACA rally). I guess I should buy some more.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:18 PM

26. Lol, ok that made me laugh.🤣

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Response to alittlelark (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:24 PM

10. I live in a university town with lots of international

students and travelers. A bit scary, but Iím trying to not overreact.

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Response to alittlelark (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:49 PM

12. Stephen King book material nt

China, Washington State, Chicago, Israel
Where next,,,,

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Response to benld74 (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:49 PM

36. Not even close really as Kings virus had a far higher % of deaths than this.

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Response to alittlelark (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:53 PM

25. Our fearless leader needs to take the situation in hand..


And travel to china, visit the hospitals...press the flesh with the sick...

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Response to alittlelark (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 08:32 PM

29. Thank you, brave doctor.

May everyone be inspired by your sacrifice.

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Response to alittlelark (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:30 PM

32. Well that's not good news (nt)

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Response to alittlelark (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 09:38 PM

33. I told my brother & the hubs that this could very possibly turn into the REAL version of

Captain Tripps.

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Response to alittlelark (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 10:47 PM

38. Remind me if the movie Contagion.

That started in China, too.

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #38)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 09:24 AM

41. Yep. That was also a coronavirus in the movie

Gwyneth Paltrow's character caught it from pork infected by a bat virus hybrid and spread it globally via air travel. Today we have a coronavirus from snake meat infected by a bat virus hybrid.

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Response to alittlelark (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 10:54 PM

39. Taiwan bans export of surgical, N95 masks amid China coronavirus outbreak

To address the surging risk of pneumonia and local demand, the Taiwanese government has issued an export ban for two types of masks between Jan. 24 and Feb. 23. The masks affected by the ban include N95 respirator masks, which can filter at least 94 percent of particles, as well as other masks made from textiles.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3863692

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I think 3M still makes their N95/99 masks in the US, that stock will be skyrocketing

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Response to alittlelark (Original post)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 04:28 PM

42. I think they are concerned about mutation.

Which will make it harder to get a handle on a vaccine. They didn't see this one coming.

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Response to alittlelark (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 09:28 AM

43. There is concern that it is communicable in asymtomatic carriers.

This is from an infectious disease specialist from Vanderbilt University Medical Center who also advises the CDC.

Still, the regular flu has killed far more people in the US, including children.

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