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Fri Jan 24, 2020, 07:10 PM

Lev Parnas Says He Has Tape of Trump Calling for Ambassador's Firing

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — A former associate of Rudolph W. Giuliani, President Trump’s personal lawyer, said on Friday that he had turned over to congressional Democrats a recording from 2018 of the president ordering the dismissal of Marie L. Yovanovitch, the United States ambassador to Ukraine at the time.

The associate, Lev Parnas, who worked with Mr. Giuliani on the effort to oust the ambassador and to pressure the Ukrainian government to pursue investigations to help Mr. Trump, located the recording on Friday after its existence was first reported by ABC News, said Mr. Parnas’s lawyer, Joseph A. Bondy.

Mr. Bondy said it “is of high materiality to the impeachment inquiry” of Mr. Trump, which House Democrats are presenting in the Senate. He said the tape had been provided to the House Intelligence Committee, whose chairman, Representative Adam B. Schiff, is leading the House impeachment managers in their presentation of the case against Mr. Trump to the Senate.

The recording emerged as Democrats are pressing the Senate to call more witnesses and seek additional evidence for the trial, saying there is more to be learned about the pressure campaign against Ukraine.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/24/us/politics/trump-recording-yovanovitch.html

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Reply Lev Parnas Says He Has Tape of Trump Calling for Ambassador's Firing (Original post)
brooklynite Jan 24 OP
msongs Jan 24 #1
Canoe52 Jan 24 #5
Roy Rolling Jan 24 #6
Cracklin Charlie Jan 24 #2
Wuddles440 Jan 24 #3
BigmanPigman Jan 24 #4
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 24 #7
karynnj Jan 24 #8
mobeau69 Jan 24 #9
SayItLoud Jan 24 #10
mackdaddy Jan 24 #11

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2020, 07:13 PM

1. seems to me a president has authority to fire ambassadors nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 24, 2020, 07:33 PM

5. So why is he telling Parnas to get rid of her?

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:11 PM

6. To be technical...

Ambassadors aren’t fired, they are recalled, which is what happened. If the president has an issue, go through the proper channels.

Rudy and Lev are not the proper channels to recall a career U.S.ambassador.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2020, 07:17 PM

2. Firing an official would be done through official channels.

Parnas/Fruman...not official anything.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2020, 07:31 PM

3. What may be its...

most important contribution to this epic saga of unrestrained corruption, it that it corroborates Parnas's description of his personal relationship with the Orange Anus.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2020, 07:32 PM

4. And he will be on Rachel Maddow tonight...

I just read it on another thread.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212906506

"TONIGHT: Lev Parnas' attorney Joe Bondy joins @maddow for an exclusive interview during special impeachment coverage on @MSNBC"

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:57 PM

7. Does this contain the "Take her out" clip? If so then it is not a "firing", is it?

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2020, 09:05 PM

8. It might be good to insist that this tape must be thoroughly tested before we believe it

The fact is we have plenty of PROVEN info that she was targeted and removed - and Guiliani was behind it - and Trump approved it.

Remember that Dan Rather DID have a secretary who said that the letter that destroyed his career for years was similar in content to what she remembered. He had been given the letter by someone who did not know the person who gave it to him. Some even suggest that the letter might have been completely accurate in content - but retyped on a more modern typewriter. However, all that matter was that as soon as it came out Free Republic (!) had experts on old typewriters posting that it was not genuine.

It blew the facts - that Bush was not a stellar National Guard member, but one who shirked his duty - out the window. The "liberal" media tried to smear Bush. (Ignore that complete Navy records showed Kerry to be a mature, serious, excellent leader of his men, who used his intelligence and creativity to keep them safe - and he really was lied about.)

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2020, 09:13 PM

9. Trump said he doesn't even know Parnas.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2020, 09:34 PM

10. Take Out

To a person NOT in any position to fire anyone does NOT mean fire her. It's MOB speak.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2020, 09:40 PM

11. I believe that the "adults" at state were dragging their feet and trying to ignore Trumps orders.

They knew that Yovanovitch was top quality and kept dragging things out hoping Trump would be on to the next shinny object and that they could ignore his "orders" or whatever you call his rantings.

Parnas said that Trump ordered her firing several times over months and months before she was actually recalled.

This was probably because Rudy kept kicking Trump about this until it finally happened.

By the way Parnas and Co wanted go get rid of Yovanovitch because they were trying to get on the board of another energy company Gasprom. So he is still a slime ball, just spilling the beans on Trump right now.

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