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Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:08 PM

Coronavirus: NJ patient being evaluated for deadly China virus

Source: NorthJersey.com

A patient at Hackensack University Medical Center was being evaluated Thursday night for possible infection with the coronavirus that originated in central China and has caused worldwide concern of a possible epidemic.

The patient, a 25-year-old woman, was transported to the hospital on Thursday evening by the Edgewater Emergency Medical Services, according to EMS sources.

"The hospital, the Department of Health and local health officials are working together to gather additional information," said Donna Leusner, a spokeswoman for the state Health Department.. "No definitive diagnosis has been made regarding the patient.

"As a precautionary measure, the hospital is following all appropriate infection control protocols," she said. That would include isolating the patient.

Read more: https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/health/2020/01/23/coronavirus-nj-patient-being-evaluated-deadly-china-virus-wuhan/4559807002/

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Reply Coronavirus: NJ patient being evaluated for deadly China virus (Original post)
brooklynite Jan 23 OP
cstanleytech Jan 23 #1
Quackers Jan 23 #3
napi21 Jan 23 #2
Quackers Jan 23 #4
roamer65 Jan 23 #5
Phoenix61 Jan 23 #6
roamer65 Jan 23 #7
Quackers Jan 23 #8
My Pet Orangutan Jan 23 #10
Quackers Jan 23 #11
My Pet Orangutan Jan 23 #13
Quackers Jan 23 #15
My Pet Orangutan Jan 23 #9
roamer65 Jan 23 #12
My Pet Orangutan Jan 23 #14
roamer65 Jan 23 #16
My Pet Orangutan Jan 23 #18
roamer65 Jan 23 #19
My Pet Orangutan Jan 24 #21
Quackers Jan 23 #17
hkp11 Jan 24 #20

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:14 PM

1. You know from the symptoms coronaviruses read alot like a cold so I wonder how often

people have thought they had a cold when in fact they had a coronavirus infection.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:20 PM

3. Ironically,

Corona viruses make up the majority of common cold cases. Most are not deadly. However, this new strain comes from the same same lineage as SARS and MIRS corona viruses.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:19 PM

2. Was she recently in China? The one case I read about the other day the patient had just returned

from Beijing. That one was in Seattle.

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Response to napi21 (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:29 PM

4. Uncertain about this patient, though that has been a prerequisite for this level of attention.

With that being said, it was confirmed yesterday that they have seen 3rd generation cases of this virus. So someone(3) who was in contact with someone(2) who was in contact with someone(1) who was in contact with the original cause of the virus, or patient zero were infected.

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Response to Quackers (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:36 PM

5. That means airborne transmission.

This virus attacks the lungs of the host. The alveoli in particular I have read. People in Wuhan are collapsing due to CO2 poisoning.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:38 PM

6. Not necessarily. It means they touched.

So far, they are reporting it is not an air born virus.

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Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:42 PM

7. Coughing.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:43 PM

8. Just to clarify, it has not been confirmed it is capable of airborne transmission, however

The previous viruses in this specific lineage have become airborne, (SARS and MIRS). I wouldnít be surprised if it makes that leap.

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Response to Quackers (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:50 PM

10. Unlike the Spanish Flu, SARS and MERS

there have not been reports yet of n-CoV2019 killing young healthy adults. It is more comparable to common flu, and perhaps less contagious.

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Response to My Pet Orangutan (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 11:04 PM

11. Not exactly.

The simple fact is, thereís not enough information available yet to know how bad it is. The last projected fatality rate I heard from experts was around 3-4%. Even they cautioned not to take that at face value. Thereís not enough data to plug in to their models to properly map this thing out. Thatís why the CDC is using a robot to monitor the guy in Washington. The best thing is to treat it like the plague and just be happy if it turns out to be nothing later.

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Response to Quackers (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 11:08 PM

13. Yeah - that's what I said below - "every caution is justified"

but killing young healthy adults - the immune system in overload - was the hallmark of SARS & MERS. We are not there yet. That's all I am saying.

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Response to My Pet Orangutan (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 11:18 PM

15. We don't know if it is or not.

The information isnít being put out there yet. I will say this though. Of the 800 confirmed cases in China, almost 200 are deemed severe and the death toll stands at 25. In addition, China has taken unprecedented steps to shutter some of its cities and prevent movement. As Iíve said, I donít know the personal details of those who are sick. I donít know if any of them are young and healthy or not. But China wouldnít be spending millions of dollars and shutting down New Year celebrations for nothing. Thereís something we donít know yet.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 10:46 PM

9. It is a novel coronavirus - every caution is justified

but early reports suggest that is less contagious, and less dangerous that the common flu.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 11:13 PM

14. The reported rate of mortality, 2%, less than SARS (10%) and MERS (40%)

and reportedly restricted to the old and infirm. SARS and MERS took out young healthy adults. He should have been more scared last time.

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Response to My Pet Orangutan (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 11:29 PM

16. Are you a coronavirus researcher?

If not, you seem pretty dismissive of someone who knows much more about the viruses than you.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 11:36 PM

18. CDC BSL-3

While every precaution must be taken, Dr Yi Guan should know better than be making alarmist statements to the press.

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Response to My Pet Orangutan (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 11:49 PM

19. Let's see at one month from today.

You guys may be quite busy at that point, especially if the horse is still out of the barn.

Meanwhile, I am reviewing the ready.gov site and invoking an emergency plan.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 24, 2020, 07:17 AM

21. BSL-3, not 4.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 11:34 PM

17. For those interested in tracking the details of this, here's some helpful links.

At this link, you can read up and compare some of the raw data that has been collected on this outbreak.

http://virological.org/t/epidemiological-data-from-the-ncov-2019-outbreak-early-descriptions-from-publicly-available-data/337



This link is to a google document with all of the raw data including demographics where available.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1itaohdPiAeniCXNlntNztZ_oRvjh0HsGuJXUJWET008/htmlview


And Iím not sure who it was that asked, I canít find it now, but the case in Washington was a 30yo male.

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