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Mon Jan 20, 2020, 03:38 PM

GOP state lawmaker wants to let cops detain anyone they think might commit a crime

Source: American Independent

By Josh Israel -January 20, 2020 1:58 PM

A proposed bill would allow police to demand information and ID from anyone they deem suspicious and detain and question them for up to two hours.

A Kentucky Republican lawmaker is proposing a controversial bill that would allow police to question anyone they "reasonably" believe has committed or may soon commit a crime and detain them for up to two hours.

SB 89, filed last week by state Sen. Stephen Meredith (R), would change state law to let any "peace officer" in a public place demand the name, address, date of birth, and government-issue ID from anyone they reasonably deem "has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime."

If the person does not provide the requested information and an explanation for their actions, the officer could detain, question, and investigate them for as long as two hours without officially recording any of the incident.

Meredith did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the bill, but told the Lexington Herald-Leader, "If a man acts suspicious, then why wouldn’t you want to know what his name is?"

Read more: https://americanindependent.com/kentucky-gop-police-detention-bill-stephen-meredith-republicans/



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So in the Kentucky legislature............................they have and are deciding to just basically say to hell with the 4th amendment..................

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

So the "probable cause".................... words....................are......... he said so, you must be, and you said ......................


What could possibly go wrong..........................fascism is still fascism...................and lets not even go down the road that if you didn't do anything wrong mentality, ..................that's an excuse...........

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Reply GOP state lawmaker wants to let cops detain anyone they think might commit a crime (Original post)
turbinetree Jan 20 OP
Sherman A1 Jan 20 #1
turbinetree Jan 20 #3
FarPoint Jan 20 #5
rickyhall Jan 20 #20
Kurt V. Jan 20 #27
getagrip_already Jan 20 #2
padah513 Jan 21 #34
bucolic_frolic Jan 20 #4
LonePirate Jan 20 #6
jayfish Jan 20 #7
riversedge Jan 20 #8
Dr. Strange Jan 20 #9
rurallib Jan 20 #10
Canoe52 Jan 20 #11
MarcA Jan 20 #13
NotHardly Jan 20 #21
lark Jan 20 #12
MarcA Jan 20 #14
MissMillie Jan 20 #17
IronLionZion Jan 20 #15
SledDriver Jan 20 #30
MissMillie Jan 20 #16
Mr.Bill Jan 20 #18
mwooldri Jan 20 #19
tblue37 Jan 20 #22
docgee Jan 20 #23
Maxheader Jan 20 #24
icymist Jan 20 #25
Beartracks Jan 20 #26
Kurt V. Jan 20 #28
Firestorm49 Jan 20 #29
truthisfreedom Jan 20 #31
Nitram Jan 20 #32
SnowCritter Jan 21 #33
geralmar Jan 21 #35

Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 03:41 PM

1. Okay

they can start with a fellow at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in DC.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 03:43 PM

3. And over at the Naval Observatory home, and AG house........................for starters

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 03:56 PM

5. My first thought too!

Set an example and all......

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 06:12 PM

20. Love to see trumpers arresting each other because they're all criminals in waiting.

It's why they run for office.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:22 PM

27. right!

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 03:42 PM

2. minority report with no mystics involved...

"I have determined you will be guilty of 3 felonies, so I'm arresting and charging you now".

But if you arrest me, I won't be able to commit any crimes, and you will have to release me

"All the law requires is that I think you will commit a crime. That makes you guilty, and I can detain you for up to 200 years"

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 01:14 PM

34. I'm late to respond

But Minority Report is the first thing that came to mind.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 03:47 PM

4. Did the carrier enthusiasts find out about this yet?

Aren't they a little suspicious, two hours worth anyway?

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 03:56 PM

6. Mr. Meredith has zero foresight and understanding of history it would seem.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 03:56 PM

7. Sounds Like Someone's Been Seething Over...

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 04:08 PM

8. whow. PAPERS PLEASE!

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 04:19 PM

9. I see no possible way that a law like this could be abused.

What could possibly go wrong?

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 04:24 PM

10. "acting suspicious" would probably involve the color of your skin

or the clothes you are wearing?

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 04:49 PM

11. Would wearing camo and carrying an assault rifle around your state's capital qualify?

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Response to Canoe52 (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 05:28 PM

13. +1,000 n/t

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Response to Canoe52 (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:15 PM

21. You win!!

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 05:08 PM

12. What the actual fuck! This is just unbelievable. There is absolutely no end to their perfidy.

None. They want to destroy us and are trying to gather up the tools to make it easier.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 05:30 PM

14. Would white collar crimes be included?

This will allow off duty peace officers to run amok.

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Response to MarcA (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 05:44 PM

17. good question! (n/t)

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 05:32 PM

15. Stephen Meredith looks like he's about to commit a crime

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 09:06 PM

30. Looks like a typical repuke pedophile

He should be detained, and have his phone, laptop, desktop, bible, etc confiscated and checked for cp.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 05:43 PM

16. If I had any money, I would bet

that this same legislator is opposed to "red flag" laws.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 05:51 PM

18. Absolutely unconstitutional. n/t

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 06:08 PM

19. And no record of such detention?

Possible to abuse this proposed legislation? Most certainly.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:29 PM

22. Department of Precrime, like in "Minority Report." nt

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:39 PM

23. This law is superfluous.

The police can already drag you off the street for no reason and detain you for 24 hrs.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:40 PM

24. Usual winger attempt at pushing..


the elimination of "innocent until proven guilty"..

Kinda a mainstay in our constitution...

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:18 PM

25. The 4th amendment has been abused since urine tests.

Why did everyone think they would stop there?

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:21 PM

26. Is this the GOP response to red flag laws for guns?

It sounds like a disingenuous excuse for racial profiling.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:23 PM

28. they never consider its going to be them

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:38 PM

29. Proactive and not reactive. Interesting development. Not good, but interesting.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 09:23 PM

31. Like... people openly carrying assault rifles wearing confederate flags?

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 11:15 PM

32. We'd have to start with every cracker carrying a gun to Richmond to intimidate te

citizens who traditionally talk to their representatives in Richmond on MLK Day about issues that concern them. Like the need to intelligently regulate firearms to prevent gun violence.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:48 AM

33. Or, if you prefer it in the original German...

Papiere, bitte.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 02:09 PM

35. Like this cop?

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