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Thu Dec 12, 2019, 05:21 PM

Russia's only carrier, damaged in shipyard accident, now on fire

Source: Ars Technica

The Admiral Kuznetsov, Russia's only aircraft carrier, caught fire today during repairs in Murmansk. While officials of the shipyard said that no shipyard workers were injured, Russia's TASS news service reports that at least 12 people (likely Kuznetsov sailors) were injured, some critically. In addition, three people, possibly including the third-rank captain in charge of the ship's repairs, are unaccounted for.

The Kuznetsov has had a long string of bad luck, experiencing fires at sea, oil spills, and landing deck accidents—including a snapped arresting wire that caused a landing Sukhoi Su-33 fighter to roll off the end of the deck and into the ocean. Its boilers belched black smoke during the ship's transit to Syria in 2016, and it had to be towed back home after breaking down during its return in 2017. Then last year, as it was undergoing repairs in a floating drydock in Murmansk's Shipyard 82, the drydock sank and a crane on the drydock slammed into the Kuznetsov, leaving a gash in the ship's hull. It looked like completion of repairs might be put off indefinitely because repair of the drydock would take over a year, and the budget for repairs had been slashed.

The fire was caused when sparks from welding work near one of the ship's electrical distribution compartments set a cable on fire. The fire spread through the wiring throughout compartments of the lower deck of the ship, eventually involving 120 square meters (1,300 square feet) of the ship's spaces.

In total, 12 victims were delivered to hospitals, 10 of them were saved during the fire. One is assessed as serious, and one suffered a head injury. Most received poisoning from combustion products, according to a report from TASS.

Read more: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/12/russias-only-carrier-damaged-in-shipyard-accident-now-on-fire/



It looks like Putin lost his only Aircraft Carrier, and it will be out of commision for some time.

Maybe Donny can loan him a few?




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Reply Russia's only carrier, damaged in shipyard accident, now on fire (Original post)
RainCaster Dec 12 OP
riversedge Dec 12 #1
Sherman A1 Dec 12 #2
TheBlackAdder Dec 12 #3
B Stieg Dec 12 #18
ffr Dec 12 #4
Xolodno Dec 12 #24
dware Dec 12 #25
Xolodno Dec 13 #26
dware Dec 13 #29
lastlib Dec 12 #5
ChazInAz Dec 12 #6
tosh Dec 12 #7
Hekate Dec 12 #8
paleotn Dec 12 #13
Roy Rolling Dec 12 #9
Scurrilous Dec 13 #30
Sapient Donkey Dec 12 #10
Adsos Letter Dec 12 #11
paleotn Dec 12 #12
keithbvadu2 Dec 12 #14
marble falls Dec 12 #17
marble falls Dec 12 #15
FailureToCommunicate Dec 12 #21
BigmanPigman Dec 12 #16
oldsoftie Dec 12 #19
SCVDem Dec 12 #20
RainCaster Dec 13 #28
TheFourthMind Dec 12 #22
TryLogic Dec 12 #23
C Moon Dec 13 #27

Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 05:27 PM

1. pic: A dozen injured, others reported missing in electrical fire aboard ship damaged by sinking dock

I do feel bad to the injured and missing and their families.






Russia’s only carrier, damaged in shipyard accident, now on fire
A dozen injured, others reported missing in electrical fire aboard ship damaged by sinking dock.


Sean Gallagher - 12/12/2019, 9:13 AM
MURMANSK, RUSSIA - DECEMBER 12, 2019: A fire has broken out aboard the Project 11435 aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov of the Russian Northern Fleet. Admiral Kuznetsov is the only aircraft carrier of the Russian Navy. Lev Fedoseyev/TASS
Enlarge / MURMANSK, RUSSIA - DECEMBER 12, 2019: A fire has broken out aboard the Project 11435 aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov of the Russian Northern Fleet. Admiral Kuznetsov is the only aircraft carrier of the Russian Navy. Lev Fedoseyev/TASS


The Admiral Kuznetsov, Russia's only aircraft carrier, caught fire today during repairs in Murmansk. While officials of the shipyard said that no shipyard workers were injured, Russia's TASS news service reports that at least 12 people (likely Kuznetsov sailors) were injured, some critically. In addition, three people, possibly including the third-rank captain in charge of the ship's repairs, are unaccounted for.

The Kuznetsov has had a long string of bad luck, experiencing fires at sea, oil spills, and landing deck accidents—including a snapped arresting wire that caused a landing Sukhoi Su-33 fighter to roll off the end of the deck and into the ocean. Its boilers belched black smoke during the ship's transit to Syria in 2016, and it had to be towed back home after breaking down during its return in 2017. Then last year, as it was undergoing repairs in a floating drydock in Murmansk's Shipyard 82, the drydock sank and a crane on the drydock slammed into the Kuznetsov, leaving a gash in the ship's hull. It looked like completion of repairs might be put off indefinitely because repair of the drydock would take over a year, and the budget for repairs had been slashed...................

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Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 05:38 PM

2. I hope no one is hurt and it burns to the waterline

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 05:44 PM

3. Same.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 08:46 PM

18. Ditto. nt

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Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 05:45 PM

4. Imagine the money Russia's saving by not having that thing running up the dab in commission.

On the flip side, this may put a damper on Russia's global military aggression.

Good!

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Response to ffr (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 11:38 PM

24. Preach it brother....but with that said...

...they have two modern Carriers planned. One for the Pacific and one for Atlantic operations. And they are a long way off before being hitting the sea. With that said, they don't plan to project power much, just in their immediate sphere...flip side, they are investing heavily into smaller ships with long range missiles...it only takes one missile to take down a Carrier.

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Response to Xolodno (Reply #24)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 11:50 PM

25. My 35 years in the Marine Corps was spent on a lot of carriers,

it isn't easy to hit one, much less sink one with conventional weapons, they are heavily defended and have back up systems for the back up systems.

People seem to believe that taking out a Carrier is easy peasy, I can say with confidence that it ain't an easy task, a Carrier can take multiple hits and still be operational and the crews are well trained to quickly repair damage and get it back in the fight.

Don't underestimate the survivability of our Carriers.

And as far as one missile taking down a Carrier, unless it's a nuke, it will take several missile strikes to put one out of action.

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Response to dware (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:15 AM

26. That's kind of my point.

Any war with Russia or China won't be conventional...they will nuke the Carrier and its group. Add to that, the S-400 is rumored to target and take down our stealth aircraft. Then we have S-500 which is going to be deployed next year. Virtually no country on this earth can take down a US Carrier....but if China and Russia can shoot a moth out of the sky, they can shoot an Aircraft Carrier out of the Sea. And yes, it will be nuclear, that's the deterant they are relying on...both Russia and China develop their armed forces for one, hostile attack from abroad and; two; invasion of a neighbor and/or province that turns hostile.

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Response to Xolodno (Reply #26)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 08:44 AM

29. Very good points and I agree with all of them. nt

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Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 05:50 PM

5. tRump to Vladdy Daddy:

"Here, boss, take the keys to the Gerald Ford."

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Response to lastlib (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 06:23 PM

6. Oh, and in case you're short handed.

I'll give you the crew, too.

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Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 06:35 PM

7. Oh, pity!

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Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 06:37 PM

8. Think of all the money they save by just doing cyber warfare & buying politicians...

Not to mention snuggling up to businessmen. Cheap at half the price, I tells ya.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 07:08 PM

13. The one part of statecraft where the Russians excel

Been that way since the Czars. The KGB was a far more effective tool for Soviet policy than the Red Army or Navy.

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Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 06:53 PM

9. I can't wait for the Trump tweet

The fire was caused by not sweeping the floors.

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Response to Roy Rolling (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:57 AM

30. LOL

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Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 06:57 PM

10. I hope they find the missing sailors alive and well, and the injured are not too badly hurt.

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Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 07:05 PM

11. Well, look at it this way Vlad...

No more expensive towing charges.

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Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 07:05 PM

12. Well, yea, it's Russian.

Quality is not their strong suit. Lots and lots of simple, not terribly imaginative equipment. Some is quite serviceable. Much is just garbage we wouldn't imagine dumping on our folks in uniform.

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Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 07:40 PM

14. The electrical cables are flammable?

Last edited Thu Dec 12, 2019, 08:11 PM - Edit history (1)

(The electrical cables are flammable?)

This is an acceptable installation spec?

That just does not sound right.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 08:44 PM

17. Insulation can be flamable and copper is like anything else: get it hot enough and it will burn.

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Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 08:43 PM

15. Don't find too much joy in this ...

The sailors hurt in this were much more like you and me than like Putin or Trump.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #15)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 10:38 PM

21. Thank you.

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Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 08:44 PM

16. It is probably worse since we all know that Putin likes to keep

negative info from "leaking" to his adoring fans (including tRump).

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Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 09:21 PM

19. With all the money they're spending i cant believe they only have ONE carrier!!

And "quality" has never been a word associated with anything Russian made. The Chinese military equipment isnt much better either.

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Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 10:29 PM

20. Who is Admiral Kuznetsov,

and who did he piss off to get his name on this kinda floating POS?

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 01:54 AM

28. Some commie I guess

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Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 10:53 PM

22. No, they have 12. 11 of those courtesy of Trump and US Taxpayers.

No need to borrow what you already own.

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Response to TheFourthMind (Reply #22)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 11:35 PM

23. You and I landed on the same track, more or less.

Quoting from above: "Maybe Donny can loan him a few?"

I would not put it past Trump to do something like that. Or, at least try.

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Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 01:46 AM

27. The CCCP Trump?

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