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Wed Dec 11, 2019, 11:26 AM

Officials: Jersey City shooting was 'targeted attack on the Jewish kosher deli'

Source: Politico

JERSEY CITY — Two people armed with long rifles “targeted” a kosher deli that was at the center of a massive shootout Tuesday, opening fire as soon as they walked inside the store, authorities said Wednesday morning.

The attack, which left three civilians dead inside the store, would have likely continued if two police officers hadn’t been blocks away and responded immediately when they heard the gunshots, officials said.

The news come as Gov. Phil Murphy said he spoke Tuesday night with President Donald Trump and as the state attorney general took charge of the investigation.

Authorities had initially indicated the shootout, during which both attackers died, was not related to terrorism and may have been tied to a prior crime. The incident came after the suspects were believed to have shot and killed a police officer in a nearby cemetery just minutes before.


Read more: https://www.politico.com/states/new-jersey/story/2019/12/11/officials-jersey-city-shooting-was-targeted-attack-on-the-jewish-kosher-deli-1231409



Newark Star-Ledger

Man, woman reportedly ID’d as attackers in fatal gun battle at kosher market

Two people who unleashed a furious gun battle in Jersey City Tueday, killing a police officer and three people inside a kosher grocery store, have been identified as David Anderson and Francine Graham, according to a report by NBCNewYork.com that cited law enforcement sources.

Anderson was a onetime follower of the Black Hebrew Israelite movement, a theology dating to the 19th Century that asserts African Americans are God’s true chosen people, according to the NBC report.

Police found online postings connected to Anderson’s social page with anti-police and anti-Jewish writings, the report said. Investigators are looking to see if Anderson himself posted that material, the report said, citing four sources in law enforcement.


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Reply Officials: Jersey City shooting was 'targeted attack on the Jewish kosher deli' (Original post)
brooklynite Dec 11 OP
dware Dec 11 #1
lagomorph777 Dec 11 #4
BigmanPigman Dec 11 #10
IronLionZion Dec 12 #13
keithbvadu2 Dec 11 #2
nycbos Dec 11 #3
jalan48 Dec 11 #5
58Sunliner Dec 11 #6
demigoddess Dec 11 #7
MosheFeingold Dec 11 #8
58Sunliner Dec 15 #15
Progressive Jones Dec 15 #16
58Sunliner Dec 15 #18
jcmaine72 Dec 15 #17
Progressive Jones Dec 15 #19
jcmaine72 Dec 15 #20
Progressive Jones Dec 15 #22
58Sunliner Dec 16 #23
IcyPeas Dec 11 #9
Mc Mike Dec 11 #11
IronLionZion Dec 12 #12
Marcuse Dec 12 #14
jcmaine72 Dec 15 #21

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 11:38 AM

1. So, this was a domestic terrorist attack against

Jews?

Religion, responsible for more deaths throughout history than anything else.

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Response to dware (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 12:39 PM

4. Yup. Thanks to Trump, Putin, and the NRA.

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Response to dware (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 05:09 PM

10. Hear, hear!

Religion has done far more harm than good. I bet it has killed as many people (directly and indirectly) than all the plagues and famines have.

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Response to dware (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 07:53 AM

13. The Trump administration has completely failed us on domestic terrorism

and done jack shit to protect Americans from being killed by other Americans. Dude spews anti-semitic stereotypes in his speeches.



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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 12:24 PM

2. Earlier articles speculated that this was a by-product of a drug deal gone bad.

Earlier articles speculated that this was a by-product of a drug deal gone bad.

It sounded like a lot of ammo for a drug deal.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 12:28 PM

3. In these types of situations...

...initial reports are often wrong.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 01:01 PM

5. Suspects identified as David Anderson and Francine Graham.


The official (law enforcement) said the names of the two suspects were David Anderson and Francine Graham. Mr. Anderson appeared to have a connection to the Black Hebrew Israelite movement, which is designated as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, a legal advocacy group that tracks such movements.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/11/nyregion/jersey-city-shooting.html

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 01:44 PM

6. Another hate crime/domestic terrorist attack.

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Response to 58Sunliner (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 02:04 PM

7. another act by Nazis.

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Response to demigoddess (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 03:35 PM

8. Yeah, I hate Black Hebrew Israelite Nazis n/t

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Response to demigoddess (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:52 AM

15. No-they were not Nazis.

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Response to 58Sunliner (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:27 AM

16. Just as scummy as nazis. A violent undesirable is a violent undesirable is a violent undesirable...

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Response to Progressive Jones (Reply #16)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 04:24 PM

18. Yes. Religious extremists are dangerous like white supremacists.

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Response to 58Sunliner (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 05:24 AM

17. I don't understand how Nazis were even relevant to this crime.

Perhaps the person you're responding to simply made an honest mistake in being a bit too hasty by drawing that conclusion. After all, it's not as if Nazis are incapable of commiting such an atrocity.

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Response to jcmaine72 (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 08:31 PM

19. I was simply pointing out that any racial/religious terrorist is the same as any other.

There is no difference between terrorists. Skin color and ideology are meaningless.
No difference to me, for instance, between an ISIS fighter and Klansman, a neo nazi, an anti-US government militia member, or one of the scumbags who shot up that shop in Jersey City.
They are all deserving of a hole in the ground once they pull that trigger, or detonate that bomb.
They are also deserving of having fear for their lives struck into them even before they act.

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Response to Progressive Jones (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 09:32 PM

20. True, but no one was arguing otherwise.

Perhaps that was the source of the confusion.

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Response to jcmaine72 (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 11:53 PM

22. My bad. I thought you were. Sorry. nt

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Response to jcmaine72 (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 16, 2019, 12:26 AM

23. Statistically, terrorism favors the white supremacists/extremist in the US.

I do wonder if through the millennia, religion isn't responsible for more deaths worldwide.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 04:31 PM

9. Black Hebrew Israelites were at that rally with the Covington h.s. student vs. Native american

Last year. Never heard of them before that incident.

BHI start at 1:09 in this video.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 05:52 PM

11. The authorities incorrectly said their fellow officer was killed by the suspects.

Gave the actual killer a head start getting away with it, as well as obscuring the anti semitic nature of the attack. The whole story is off.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 07:44 AM

12. Time to ban anyone from David Anderson and Francine Graham's country

We should have never allowed such people to come here hundreds of years ago.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 10:20 AM

14. The terrorists seem to be associated with this guy and the Yawehs.

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Response to Marcuse (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 09:45 PM

21. Unlikely. As dazed and confused as Black Trump supporters are....

...the Black Hebrew Israelites are in a league of their own in terms of batshit crazy racial supremacy.

I heard one on a street corner once claim that every great historical figure was a Black Hebrew, including Queen Elizabeth I and the Wright brothers, but that the "white devil" has rewritten the actual history in order to steal all their great accomplishments.The Black Hebrew Israelites might actually be the one extremist hate group too crazy and hateful even for Trump.

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