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Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:43 PM

Germans In Favor Of 'Reducing Reliance' On US

Source: DW

A majority of Germans are in favor of reducing Germany's reliance on the United States militarily, according to a YouGov poll commissioned by the German news agency DPA.

According to the poll, 55% of Germans believe that European members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) should protect themselves from an attack without US help. In addition, a majority of poll participants believe the US should partially (23%) or completely (26%) withdraw its 30,000 troops stationed in Germany.

Conversely, 54% said NATO should work more closely with Russia rather than relying on deterrence. Meanwhile, 37% are for lifting sanctions against Russia relating to its conflict with Ukraine on the Crimean Peninsula, while 34% are against lifting such sanctions.

NATO members are currently gathered in London for a tense two-day summit. German Chancellor Angela Merkel is due to hold talks with US President Donald Trump, who has criticized Germany and other NATO countries for not spending enough on defense. Merkel said last week that Germany is not in a position to defend itself alone. She also vowed to increase Germany's defense spending to the NATO target of 2% of its gross domestic product "by the 2030s." -More...


Read more: https://www.dw.com/en/germans-in-favor-of-reducing-reliance-on-us/a-51510739



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quid amateur quo Tuesday #3
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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:45 PM

1. Sounds like they're making a virtue of necessity.

They know they can't rely on us as an ally anymore (or at least until Trump is gone), so they're making the best of a bad situation.

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:46 PM

2. Exactly the headline Putin and Xi want to read. . . . nt

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:17 PM

3. Can you Blame Them???

There's a Putinist in the White House, FFS!

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:49 PM

4. It's a good thing in a general way ...

... even if unfortunately Trump bought it to a head.

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:52 PM

5. The whole world should drop us like a hot potato

Any country that would follow, defend, and protect a big baby Nazi cannot be trusted.

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:59 PM

6. Note that the YouGov polling method (online polling) is very inaccurate

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:59 PM

7. problem is, Putin can unravel other western democracies too

the US elections have been an excellent proving ground. by now, Putin and his GRU ops should have a solid understanding of what works and what doesn't, they just have to apply it to various different governmental forms and adapt it to fit a target nation's primary concerns.

NATO's been broken wide open. it's not just the US that's unreliable now. Putin rising in the east.

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:30 PM

8. All part of the Chump legacy

That, and a possible financial crisis in the near future.

Just like the last GOPee president.

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:49 PM

9. China will happily fill in the gaps.

They're doing great with expansion into Africa, South China Sea, South America. Why not Europe?

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:19 PM

11. Greenland too.

Rare earth materials are very much on Chinas radar. Trumps bungling...

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:12 PM

10. The EU is and will be a stronger Franco-German alliance.

It will become a federal republic.

The UK will lose Scotland if it leaves the EU.

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:19 PM

12. Can't blame them one bit.

I suppose the EU feels the need to step into the power vacuum left by the vacuous US.

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