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Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:00 AM

Impeachment is about to get a Robert Mueller reprise

Source: Politico

By DARREN SAMUELSOHN
11/22/2019 05:13 AM EST

Right now, impeachment is all about Ukraine. But after Thanksgiving, prepare for a Robert Mueller reprise.

Now that House Democrats have wrapped up public hearings on President Donald Trumpís pressure campaign to get Ukraine to launch politically advantageous investigations, there are plans to hold at least one public impeachment hearing on Trumpís misdeeds as alleged in the special counselís report.

Itís a gathering that could fuel articles of impeachment beyond those tied to the Ukraine controversy. Democrats say they have new Mueller-related fodder after Roger Stoneís recent trial raised questions about whether Trump provided false statements to the special counselís team. And the hearing could even feature a star witness ó former White House counsel Don McGahn. A judge is set to rule in the coming days on whether McGahn must comply with a House subpoena.
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House leadership signaled the plans in court filings and oral arguments this week, as the Democratsí attorneys fought to get McGahnís testimony, as well as access to more of the evidence Mueller used to write his final report.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/22/impeachment-robert-mueller-072698

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Reply Impeachment is about to get a Robert Mueller reprise (Original post)
swag Nov 22 OP
sop Nov 22 #1
oldsoftie Nov 22 #2
getagrip_already Nov 22 #6
Fiendish Thingy Nov 22 #10
SayItLoud Nov 22 #16
getagrip_already Nov 22 #18
lagomorph777 Nov 22 #20
disndat Nov 22 #28
oldsoftie Nov 22 #30
C_U_L8R Nov 22 #3
Scarsdale Nov 22 #4
Delphinus Nov 22 #5
MyOwnPeace Nov 22 #7
JudyM Nov 22 #11
lagomorph777 Nov 22 #21
Eyeball_Kid Nov 22 #27
lagomorph777 Nov 22 #29
Fiendish Thingy Nov 22 #12
C_U_L8R Nov 22 #13
getagrip_already Nov 22 #19
Fiendish Thingy Nov 22 #25
getagrip_already Nov 22 #26
ritapria Nov 22 #8
lagomorph777 Nov 22 #22
JudyM Nov 22 #9
mopinko Nov 22 #14
NewJeffCT Nov 22 #15
stuffmatters Nov 22 #32
Farmer-Rick Nov 22 #17
kacekwl Nov 22 #23
cilla4progress Nov 22 #24
MFGsunny Nov 22 #31

Response to swag (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:03 AM

1. Good!

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Response to swag (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:04 AM

2. If the court rulles McGahn must testify, Bolten will also.

And THATS who I'd like to see in the chair. He doesnt give a shit about trump IMO

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:35 AM

6. Im not so sure....

Bolton is an ego maniac and may hate trump, but he is big into self preservation. He knows that hill and the others gave damning testimony that should be more than enough to convince peoplr.

At this point he must be wondering if the effort is worth the risk. There isnt anything he can add that would move the gop to remove trump. Trump has them locked in for the ride.

Im sure he is being threatened behind the scenes. He risks losing his reputation among the super evil and probably a lot of money on the news circuit.

He would gain little. For trump and company, its always a zero sum game.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:40 AM

10. If the court rules McGahn must appear, it will set precedent on all subpeonas

Bolton will be compelled- he has said he will appear if the court rules he must.

The court's ruling on Monday will be a BFD.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:56 AM

16. Notice no one in tRUMP sphere is sliming Bolton, they know

he's got more of the goods. Letting a sleeping dog lie.

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Response to SayItLoud (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:18 AM

18. true that....

I guess if he wanted to go for trump's jugular, he could get into areas that bring his fitness for humanity into question. Basically strip the "skin" off of all of trumps illusions. Stripping him metaphorically bare for all the world to see would destroy trumps self image; and that is all trump has.

It's what he fears most. If bolton is the mean,evil, self serving bastard we all believe he is, that would be an effective tactic to deploy. It would only affect trump personally and wouldn't drag other gop personalities in.

A perfect revenge. But it's likely also what is in his book, and he doesn't want to give that away for free.

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Response to SayItLoud (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:32 AM

20. Same for Ghouliani

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Response to SayItLoud (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 11:07 AM

28. I like the description of

Bolton on MSNBC yesterday - "Attila the Hun to the right side."

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 12:10 PM

30. But I believe his earlier quotes about what was going on insulates him to a degree

"Hey, I told everyone this was a scam!"
And him giving damning testimony would skyrocket his coming book sales!
Far as I recall, he said he'd testify if the court ruled that McGahn should. I'm not positive though

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Response to swag (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:17 AM

3. What's next?

It almost sounded like the Intelligence Committee was wrapping up their work. Do they have more witnesses to call? Or is this all heading over to the Judiciary Committee now? And are they going to hold hearings as well? Or is it time to write up the Impeachment Articles? The last few weeks have been so clear cut but they've been a little murky about next steps. Either way, American families have plenty to discuss over Thanksgiving, which may move the polling forward. I guess we all have some work to do.

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:24 AM

4. What about all the violations

of the Emoluments Clause? Lots of fodder there.

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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:32 AM

5. Continuing

violations.

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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:36 AM

7. Absolutely!

the "Mueller Report" - Emoluments - diverted money to "build" the wall that nobody wants.
PLENTY of material to add to the list.
FRY HIS FAT A$$!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:41 AM

11. Hopefully they will. Let's get it all out in the open.

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Response to JudyM (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:37 AM

21. The Ukraine scandal is all about Russia; Trump acted on Putin's orders.

And as Dr. Hill pointed out, the Republicans on the committee are acting on Putin's orders too.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #21)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:54 AM

27. IMO, as a nation, we have lost our loyalty to the Constitution, and we've also

lost our instinct for the integrity of the country, and we've lost our determination for self-preservation. If Putin takes over the United States, the population will just sigh and assume that the TV will always turn on, so all is okay.

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #27)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 11:34 AM

29. No! As a PARTY, Russiapublicans have lost their loyalty to the Constitution and the nation.

The vast majority of Americans are appalled by their disloyalty.

Please don't unfairly portray the vast majority of Americans, who are passionately loyal.

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:42 AM

12. It all depends on the court ruling on Monday re: subpeonas

If the court enforces the subpeonas, there could be more hearings with high ranking members/ former members of the administration.

If not, Intelligence will prepare a report to go to Judiciary.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:47 AM

13. Will Judiciary have their own hearings?

Or are they just charged with packaging up the Impeachment charges for the Senate based on other committees' work?

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:24 AM

19. only if they aren't appealed....

and mcghan is the one who would have to do it since nobody else is in that suit. He has some jeopardy testifying. He already gave depositions - a lot of them - to muehlers probe. If he differs in any way, the doj could prosecute him for perjury, even if it is only an inadvertent error.

He may appeal.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:31 AM

25. If the ruling court doesn't issue a stay pending appeal, the subpeona will be enforced

That's why Monday is a BFD.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:53 AM

26. they always issue a stay if an appeal is filed....

The courts almost universally give a plaintiff time to appeal before issuing orders to comply. Typically it's about 10 days.

All it takes is a request by the plaintiffs attorney. It's pretty standard.

Of course, mcghan may not appeal the ruling. But it's more likely he will.

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Response to swag (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:39 AM

8. The Dems are handling his situation perfectly

If for no other reason than establishing the historical record , they are going to include Trump's attempts to obstruct the Mueller investigation within their proposed Articles of Impeachment Ö...We can't normalize such behavior ..Not now , Not ever

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Response to ritapria (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:38 AM

22. They are destroying Trump and his minions in Congress.

Dr. Hill was very clear that Gym Jordan and Devil Nunes are acting on Putin's orders.

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Response to swag (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:47 AM

14. one good witness blows the lid off all that.

mcgahn should be disbarred if he continues to refuse.
but he cant even shade his way out of high crimes.

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Response to swag (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:49 AM

15. Democrats need to keep these hearings going

It puts Trump in reactionary mode

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 05:41 PM

32. And these hearings are our one chance to use the MSM time to educate the public.

I hope they draw this public education out at least a couple of months, before it's "Kavanaughed" in the Senate.

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Response to swag (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:11 AM

17. Good, sending it to the Senate will just bury it.

Moscow Mitch is still in shorty Putin's pocket.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:13 AM

23. Good, the

list of impeachable offenses is seemingly endless.

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Response to swag (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:24 AM

24. Glad to

read this!

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Response to swag (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 03:28 PM

31. from your keyboard to ...............................

"The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice."

Let it be so.

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