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riversedge

(69,537 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:14 PM Nov 2019

'Going to need a bigger police wagon': Viewers stunned as Gordon Sondland exposes Trump's 'criminal

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Source: raw






‘Going to need a bigger police wagon’: Viewers stunned as Gordon Sondland exposes Trump’s ‘criminal syndicate’ on live TV



Published 9 hours ago on November 20, 2019


Gordon Sondland walked into the history books Wednesday morning by delivering damning testimony explicitly implicating President Donald Trump in the Ukraine extortion scheme.

The EU ambassador flipped on the president and other top Trump administration officials — including Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Secretary of Energy Rick Perry — during a devastating opening statement that showed the scheme flowed directly from the White House.................



@RyanLizza

It seems like Sondland left out a few interesting details in his initial testimony!
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Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/going-to-need-a-bigger-police-wagon-viewers-stunned-as-gordon-sondland-exposes-trumps-criminal-syndicate-on-live-tv/



While I felt a bit gleeful this morning, I have to admit, there is a sadness also with all these vile revelations.





As much as I dislike Trump, I'm not enjoying this. It's actually sad and tragic that our country has come to this.


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Republicans caught flat-footed as Trump’s hand-picked man in Kyiv delivers an unexpected knockout punch


https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/republicans-caught-flat-footed-as-trumps-hand-picked-man-in-kyiv-delivers-an-unexpected-knockout-punch/

Published 4 hours ago on November 20, 2019



The impeachment case outlining Donald Trump’s bad behavior in launching a campaign for personal political gain just took a huge, if not a devastating, slam-dunk leap forward.

The revised testimony of Ambassador to the EU Gordon Sondland today made it certain that he led this campaign for extortion against a vulnerably new Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the direct order of Trump, Rudy Giuliani and the full team of top administration figures.

From Sondland, the news was that rather than this being some kind of hidden, “irregular” mob-type plot being engineered by a wily Giuliani, the months-long effort was right out there in the open.

Republican defenders of the president, left off-guard by the changes in Sondland testimony, were left with disputing details to undermine the witness, and continue their weird argument or that none of it amounts to illegal behavior or abuse of office.

For Democratic committee chair Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), the testimony and the days preceding it, amount to a campaign described in words of only increasing distress for the nation and Trump disdain for the Constitution.................................................


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'Going to need a bigger police wagon': Viewers stunned as Gordon Sondland exposes Trump's 'criminal (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2019 OP
The local news said 51% are not interested AT ALL BigmanPigman Nov 2019 #1
I don't know but americans by and all are pretty dumb pangaia Nov 2019 #9
We're not alone. BigmanPigman Nov 2019 #10
"As much as I dislike Trump, I'm not enjoying this." MyOwnPeace Nov 2019 #2
I think it's going to be more interesting each day. 2naSalit Nov 2019 #3
No doubt - MyOwnPeace Nov 2019 #5
So Sondland did not want to risk being charged with obstruction of justice and or perjury cstanleytech Nov 2019 #4
I think that's exactly it ... the history books bucolic_frolic Nov 2019 #6
Schiff is scoring direct hits. ffr Nov 2019 #7
The state of play up to now . . . Aussie105 Nov 2019 #8
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Nov 2019 #11

BigmanPigman

(51,365 posts)
1. The local news said 51% are not interested AT ALL
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:20 PM
Nov 2019

about the impeachment hearings. The rest were either "very" or "somewhat" interested. This is in San Diego. Is it this bad in other cities?!?!? APATHY!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
9. I don't know but americans by and all are pretty dumb
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:09 AM
Nov 2019

compared to many other 'advanced&quot ?) countries..

I tell you, for example, a good friend of mine in Hong Kong, with the horror happening there right now, knows more about american politics that I would bet 95% of americans.

BigmanPigman

(51,365 posts)
10. We're not alone.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:13 AM
Nov 2019

MyOwnPeace

(16,884 posts)
2. "As much as I dislike Trump, I'm not enjoying this."
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:23 PM
Nov 2019

We don't need to enjoy it - as a matter of fact, we should not be in a position to even have to endure it!
BUT, we must do what is right and take actions to correct this huge mistake and disaster that has befallen our country!

I'd like to think that the evidence is so clear that it should only be days before this is all over. Sadly, I'm convinced that we've gone down so far into the rabbit hole that we've only just begun our fight.

2naSalit

(85,635 posts)
3. I think it's going to be more interesting each day.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:28 PM
Nov 2019

MyOwnPeace

(16,884 posts)
5. No doubt -
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:35 PM
Nov 2019

and we can't allow ourselves to become "glazed over" or frustrated into inattention. This is a FIGHT to the end - and they're counting on "disinterest" or "giving up" to allow them to keep things going.
WE CANNOT STOP!!!!!
WE MUST CONTINUE THE FIGHT!!!

Supporting our outstanding Congressional leadership is one point.
Keeping our focus on WHAT THEY HAVE ILLEGALLY DONE is another.
And finally, we must have good candidates and GET OUT THE VOTE!

They may play it out until the elections, but WE MUST CARRY THE DAY AT THAT POINT!!!!

cstanleytech

(26,025 posts)
4. So Sondland did not want to risk being charged with obstruction of justice and or perjury
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:29 PM
Nov 2019

down the road once the DOJ is back in Democratic hands and launches the inevitable investigations?

bucolic_frolic

(42,478 posts)
6. I think that's exactly it ... the history books
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:54 PM
Nov 2019

he could go along with Trump and his cronies, or he could save his hotel empire and be remembered well.

ffr

(22,636 posts)
7. Schiff is scoring direct hits.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:59 PM
Nov 2019

While the GOP struggles to defy the facts with incoherent messages.


Aussie105

(5,169 posts)
8. The state of play up to now . . .
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 01:04 AM
Nov 2019

Trump: Constitution? I don't need no stinkin' Constitution! It gets in the way of how I do business. Besides, those old guys had worse hair than me, and none had a Twitter account! Losers!

GOP: Yeah, we can work with that.

Schiff: Not so fast!

Omaha Steve

(98,872 posts)
11. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 02:40 PM
Nov 2019

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