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Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:00 PM

Pence's office denies he spoke with Sondland about investigations

Source: The Hill

Vice President Mike Pence's office pushed back on Sondland's testimony Wednesday that he raised concerns that aid for Ukraine had become tied to Trump's desire for investigations.

“The Vice President never had a conversation with Gordon Sondland about investigating the Bidens, Burisma, or the conditional release of financial aid to Ukraine based upon potential investigations," Pence's chief of staff, Marc Short, said in a statement

Sondland said in his opening statement that he brought up the issue during a Sept. 1 meeting with Pence in Warsaw. However, Short denied the exchange ever took place.

“Multiple witnesses have testified under oath that Vice President Pence never raised Hunter Biden, former Vice President Joe Biden, Crowdstrike, Burisma, or investigations in any conversation with Ukrainians or President Zelensky before, during, or after the September 1 meeting in Poland," Short said.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/471288-pences-office-denies-he-spoke-with-sondland-about-investigations

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Reply Pence's office denies he spoke with Sondland about investigations (Original post)
demmiblue Nov 20 OP
Pachamama Nov 20 #1
Happyhippychick Nov 20 #2
Adsos Letter Nov 20 #3
lagomorph777 Nov 20 #20
RockRaven Nov 20 #4
lastlib Nov 20 #5
Botany Nov 20 #16
Historic NY Nov 20 #6
MFGsunny Nov 20 #7
lagomorph777 Nov 20 #21
MFGsunny Nov 20 #23
FailureToCommunicate Nov 20 #8
karynnj Nov 20 #15
global1 Nov 20 #9
lagomorph777 Nov 20 #22
UpInArms Nov 20 #10
Initech Nov 20 #11
KWR65 Nov 20 #12
Brainfodder Nov 20 #13
karynnj Nov 20 #14
patphil Nov 20 #17
dreamland Nov 20 #18
ffr Nov 20 #19

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:01 PM

1. Mother is upset

Mikey is freaking

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:04 PM

2. Well then why don't we let Mike testify UNDER OATH and see if he recalls

Nt

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Response to Happyhippychick (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:06 PM

3. This.

This for the whole lot of them.

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Response to Happyhippychick (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:39 PM

20. Pence has now been seriously Trumped.

Along with the rest of the cabal, his main job now is to stay out of jail. I wish him all the worst.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:10 PM

4. Notice the language in the denial "... that Pence never raised..."

Even if you accept that statement is true, it does not mean Pence was not present when others talked about it thereby hearing it himself, nor does it mean Pence was unaware.

And why should I believe anything Pence or his spokesperson has to say? Based on what history of honesty?

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:13 PM

5. I agree--"...(he) never raised..." it...

but he sure as HELL heard it from the amigos and others. Bottom line: HE. FUCKING. KNEW!!!

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:28 PM

16. Now when has Pence been less than honest?

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/01/15/mike-pence-no-contact-with-russia-fox-news.cnn

Pence: Trump camp had no contact with Russia
Newsroom

Speaking on Fox News, Vice President-elect Mike Pence wrote off allegations that the Trump campaign had contacts with Russia as an attempt to "delegitimize the election."

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:22 PM

6. Tic Tock

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:23 PM

7. RATS RUNNING FOR COVER. At long last, is this national nightmare (MF45 et al.) be coming to an end?

The mathematical algorithm to determine the length between Pence-a-mother and the truth is still being calculated by sophisticated computers.

BUT, It's for sure BIGLY.

Title for new mafioso tv series: TRUMPED

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Response to MFGsunny (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:59 PM

21. They're all attacking each other now. Not a good look.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 05:25 PM

23. It's in the nature of rat fuc*ers. Hope truth will out. n/t

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:35 PM

8. Sondland testified that after informing the VP of the progress, Pence nodded his

(robotic) head.

He didn't need a "conversation"... it was all "generally understood"

In other words, a CONSPIRACY.

Wouldn't THAT be a problem for Pense, et al????

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Response to FailureToCommunicate (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:13 PM

15. Add in that Bolton abruptly ended the meeting after Sondland's comment

It is likely NO ONE then spoke in the meeting to answer the issue raised. Bolton was protecting others from being on an official record saying things that are essentially a quid pro quo.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:36 PM

9. Somebody Really Wants To Be The Next President - Huh?......nt

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Response to global1 (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:59 PM

22. I think the goal now is to stay out of jail.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:42 PM

10. Someone should remind Pence that

You go to hell for lying.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:44 PM

11. Which means he's lying.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:47 PM

12. Well Pence should go to Congress to testify about it under oath.

Some VP PR person is not going to cut it for Congress.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:05 PM

13. For now, I expect Republicans to be lying sacks?

Welcome to Wednesday?

Just fall apart entirely already, good grief this is so obvious.




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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:10 PM

14. There is no real denial - both what Sondland and what Short said can be true

Sondland - to my knowledge - did not claim Pence raised the issue or even spoke to it - I believe he said that Pence "nodded". Also Sondland's comments led to Bolton ending the meeting - so it may be NO ONE spoke to the issue.

Not to mention - THIS IS THE HILL. The very source of all the Solomon written lies. Its owner is biased.

Note here that the contradiction comes in their headline and the first and third paragraphs - that are not quotes of either.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:56 PM

17. If Pence survives this, he's going to be President...not a good thought, but

I don't see Trump lasting much longer. The Republican Senate has to decide if it's the end of their party, or the end of Trump.
I hear the bus engine starting up in the Congressional parking lot.

Patrick Phillips

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:04 PM

18. Interesting how it's always his office denies accusations

I'd like to o see the man himself speak out that he wasn't in on it. He knows he's going straight to hell because it's a lie.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:35 PM

19. Video tweet of that exchange

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