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Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:00 AM

Ambassador to say quid pro quo came from Giuliani at Trump's 'express direction'

Source: CNN

Ambassador to say quid pro quo came from Giuliani at Trump's 'express direction'
By Jeremy Herb and Manu Raju, CNN

Updated at 9:51 AM ET, Wed November 20, 2019



(CNN) -- US Ambassador Gordon Sondland testified Wednesday there was a quid pro quo for Ukraine to announce investigations into President Donald Trump's political opponents that came from Rudy Giuliani at the "express direction of the President."
What's more, Sondland provided House impeachment investigators with emails and texts showing it wasn't just him and Giuliani pushing for the investigations outside government channels -- Trump's inner circle knew what was going on, too. He even said he raised concerns with Vice President Mike Pence that the freezing of $400 million in security aid to Ukraine was linked to the investigations.

Sondland's testimony is the most damning evidence to date directly implicating Trump in the quid pro quo at the heart of the impeachment inquiry. His public remarks show a link between US security aid and a White House meeting and Ukraine publicly announcing investigations that would help the President politically. From the beginning of Wednesday's hearing, Sondland's comment drag some of Trump's senior most officials -- including Pence, his chief of staff and his secretary of state -- into the scheme.

In his remarkable opening statement before the fourth day of public impeachment hearings, Sondland told House impeachment investigators that Trump "wanted a public statement from President (Volodymyr) Zelensky committing to investigations of Burisma and the 2016 election."

Read more: https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/11/20/politics/public-impeachment-hearing-day-4/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2Fpolitics%2Flive-news%2Fimpeachment-hearing-11-20-19%2Findex.html




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Reply Ambassador to say quid pro quo came from Giuliani at Trump's 'express direction' (Original post)
orangecrush Nov 20 OP
George II Nov 20 #1
Chakaconcarne Nov 20 #2
George II Nov 20 #5
duforsure Nov 20 #3
orangecrush Nov 20 #4
Merlot Nov 20 #6

Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:05 AM

1. The only thing missing is him saying "there's a cancer in the White House!"

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:14 AM

2. So far he has not explicitly mentioned investigating "bidens" only "2016 election" and "Burisma"...

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Response to Chakaconcarne (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:49 AM

5. But Goldman just pointed out to Sondland that trump himself mentioned Bidens and Burisma.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:35 AM

3. Remember trump repeated that often "no quid pro quo",

When he repeats things like this its almost always a lie. His patterns are very telling. Like he did with "no collusion: which again was a lie. He'll be accusing others of money laundering , and other crimes he'll soon be exposed for, which again his pattern has been accuse others of his crimes, especially of what he's doing. He did the same claiming he wanted to talk to Mueller when he refused talking to him.

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Response to duforsure (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:40 AM

4. What is striking


Is that no testimony so far has supported Trump's innocence in any way.

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Response to duforsure (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:52 AM

6. Both "quid pro quo" and "no collusion" were clever distractions as neither one

described the actual crime in legal terms. Collusion was not illegal, and what he's done with Ukraine is extortion, not quid pro quo.

He's not smart, but he is clever - and willing to look stupid when necessary.

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