Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:08 AM

packman (13,022 posts)

EXCLUSIVE: Chick-fil-A To Stop Donations To Charities With Anti-LGBT Views

Source: Bisnow

As Chick-fil-A expands globally and into more liberal parts of the U.S., the chicken chain plans to change which charities it donates to after years of bad press and protests from the LGBT community

Read more: https://www.bisnow.com/national/news/retail/exclusive-amid-global-expansion-and-lgbt-pushback-chick-fil-a-changes-charitable-giving-structure-101818

About F---in' time - I did enjoy their chicken salad sandwich on wheat and their milk shakes.

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EXCLUSIVE: Chick-fil-A To Stop Donations To Charities With Anti-LGBT Views (Original post)	packman	Nov 2019	OP
too little too late, IMO. I'll wait to see whether this is more than just pandering.	hlthe2b	Nov 2019	#1
Agree. It doesn't mean they doing anything positive or right, just not objectively wrong	mpcamb	Nov 2019	#46
Who cares what their motivation is	tymorial	Nov 2019	#54
Their motivation is everything. It predicts what else they will do or not do including	hlthe2b	Nov 2019	#58
agreed. POS is a POS	stopdiggin	Nov 2019	#77
Considering the	bucolic_frolic	Nov 2019	#2
Not tolerance, loss of $.	we can do it	Nov 2019	#4
This. The rest of the world won't put up with their politics.	crickets	Nov 2019	#8
Bingo!! nt	cstanleytech	Nov 2019	#15
I do not care about the motivation but the results.	efhmc	Nov 2019	#29
I do. Hypocrites suck and won't get any of my $s.	we can do it	Nov 2019	#37
I've known Buck McCabe (former CFO of Chik-fil-A) for over 40 years.	11 Bravo	Nov 2019	#48
I didn't realize people had their bones tested for bigotry	JonLP24	Nov 2019	#76
to my way of thinking, if you're giving money to people that are staunchly	stopdiggin	Nov 2019	#79
It is Cathay who has been the issue. n/t	hlthe2b	Nov 2019	#80
Exactly!	mountain grammy	Nov 2019	#33
So it's about money	tymorial	Nov 2019	#56
They have really bad chicken sandwiches.	Farmer-Rick	Nov 2019	#13
It's really not awful ... been there a few times, it's def. not microwaved ...	mr_lebowski	Nov 2019	#24
They have a playground and stuff my gchildren will eat.	efhmc	Nov 2019	#30
Their corporate giving hasn't mattered to me much anyway.	Loki Liesmith	Nov 2019	#3
I'll believe it when I see it.	Archae	Nov 2019	#5
What Archae said!!	atreides1	Nov 2019	#35
I still won't patronize that business	Cirque du So-What	Nov 2019	#6
I have never darkened their door and don't plan to.	LastDemocratInSC	Nov 2019	#7
What? All the years of outloud bigotry	MuseRider	Nov 2019	#9
I see this as akin to those Republicans who were re-elected with tainted money	MurrayDelph	Nov 2019	#36
Corporate Triangulation	BlueIdaho	Nov 2019	#10
They are still assholes	Mickju	Nov 2019	#11
An excellent place to eat if you've lost the urge to live.	klook	Nov 2019	#28
They've said that before. I'll believe it when I see it.	stopbush	Nov 2019	#12
Can't wait to see the crazy protests	randr	Nov 2019	#14
Freepers are complaining about it	IronLionZion	Nov 2019	#43
Money supersedes religious beliefs.	keithbvadu2	Nov 2019	#16
I will give them another try	BillyBobBrilliant	Nov 2019	#17
LOL - yep. (nt)	klook	Nov 2019	#26
And we all know, they are not opened on Sunday ...	aggiesal	Nov 2019	#27
I have never set foot inside or driven thru any of their establishments	sdfernando	Nov 2019	#18
Didn't they say they already stopped a few years ago?	LeftInTX	Nov 2019	#19
They must really be worried about those Popeyes chicken sandwiches	kysrsoze	Nov 2019	#20
The taste of hate lingers.	C_U_L8R	Nov 2019	#21
Problem is Popeyes customer service is consistently and uniquely awful	BannonsLiver	Nov 2019	#31
the line was around the block	IcyPeas	Nov 2019	#22
I have NEVER eaten there...	Raster	Nov 2019	#23
It's all about the Benjamins	ToxMarz	Nov 2019	#25
I like Chik Fil A	BannonsLiver	Nov 2019	#32
I'd guess the corollary is also true.	LanternWaste	Nov 2019	#39
I like pit bulls and Olive Garden	IronLionZion	Nov 2019	#45
+1	happybird	Nov 2019	#53
They changed their position due to outrage from conservatives	JonLP24	Nov 2019	#75
It's amusing to see the "I've never eaten there!" And "their food is awful!" Posts	bearsfootball516	Nov 2019	#57
They provide good customer service and a consistent product	BannonsLiver	Nov 2019	#63
to give money to a un-American company like that is to support hate groups	rockfordfile	Nov 2019	#66
That's a pretty absurd statement to make.	bearsfootball516	Nov 2019	#68
Well you sure showed me.	BannonsLiver	Nov 2019	#70
That's because of all the un-American religious nut jobs. Most people go to other places.	rockfordfile	Nov 2019	#65
You're pretty out of touch if you think the only people going to CFA are religious nut jobs.	bearsfootball516	Nov 2019	#69
Aw hell, I'm a certified food snob	sir pball	Nov 2019	#60
Yeah it's a solid option	BannonsLiver	Nov 2019	#64
I don't seek them out but I'll cheerfully eat there	sir pball	Nov 2019	#73
What? CFA is a un-American company that supports hate groups. Do you support cfa?	rockfordfile	Nov 2019	#67
"a lot worst"	BannonsLiver	Nov 2019	#71
I take it you don't like fried chicken.	sir pball	Nov 2019	#72
Isn't whether chicken is good or not subjective?	JonLP24	Nov 2019	#74
Taste is subjective, of course	sir pball	Nov 2019	#81
I used to like their sandwiches	MurrayDelph	Nov 2019	#34
They can still go after the atheists, right?	brooklynite	Nov 2019	#38
How does one go after atheists?	IronLionZion	Nov 2019	#42
As opposed to most people here	Unclephil	Nov 2019	#40
This probably has more to do with Popeye's kicking their Christian ass	IronLionZion	Nov 2019	#41
Don't buy it. religious types lie all of the time. Their food is still crap	rockfordfile	Nov 2019	#44
Oh good. My gay daughter loves chick-fil-a salad bowls	OKNancy	Nov 2019	#47
Economic pressure can encourage changes in behavior.	Nitram	Nov 2019	#49
was interested to see the DU reaction to this.......	Takket	Nov 2019	#50
My initial reaction was not to trust them	OriginalGeek	Nov 2019	#82
Mike Huckabee: It's 'tragic' Chick-fil-A will focus its charitable giving on causes that aren't anti	Gothmog	Nov 2019	#51
they can still fuck themselves	Skittles	Nov 2019	#52
A good thing I guess. Rather unimportant in the big picture.	GulfCoast66	Nov 2019	#55
The Cons are mad XD	dustyscamp	Nov 2019	#59
I would still never patronize them	jcmaine72	Nov 2019	#61
Makes no difference. Their history will follow them.	GoneOffShore	Nov 2019	#62
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Nov 2019	#78

Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:10 AM

hlthe2b (83,432 posts)

1. too little too late, IMO. I'll wait to see whether this is more than just pandering.

Frankly, I'm unlikely to forgive them for continuing to use styrofoam cups more than a decade after all others discontinued using them due to their severe harm to the environment.

It isn't just LGBTQ issues that make them subject to derision.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 03:23 PM

mpcamb (2,379 posts)

46. Agree. It doesn't mean they doing anything positive or right, just not objectively wrong

from my point of view.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:08 PM

tymorial (3,312 posts)

54. Who cares what their motivation is

I don't care if this is entirely about profit. If their actions match their words then it doesn't really matter what is in their heart because it means the right wing isn't getting their money

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Response to tymorial (Reply #54)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:13 PM

hlthe2b (83,432 posts)

58. Their motivation is everything. It predicts what else they will do or not do including

as I pointed out, their rather horrific record on environmental sustainability.

And, I'd bet the LGBTQ community would like to know if this represents a motivated change of heart or merely an opportunity on the short term.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:29 AM

stopdiggin (4,037 posts)

77. agreed. POS is a POS

I'm not a big time boycott activist, but .. Hobby Lobby and Chick-fil-A .. they'll be pushing dirt in over top of me before ....

(These companies have made a POINT of putting THEMSELVES at the front of the culture wars. No accident. No misstep No misinterpretation. They deliberately used their brand recognition and considerable resources .. weighing in on the WRONG side, to do damage to real persons and the public square. It's not just a difference of opinion. It's tearing at the fabric of who we are. They don't warrant a pardon or a do over. They made their bed .. and rubbed everyone's nose in it while doing so!)

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:11 AM

bucolic_frolic (22,481 posts)

2. Considering the

Conservative Christian nature of the company, this is a major statement of tolerance.

Nonetheless, I never go there. Been boycotting them forever. Amen.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:15 AM

we can do it (9,340 posts)

4. Not tolerance, loss of $.

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Response to we can do it (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:26 AM

crickets (15,691 posts)

8. This. The rest of the world won't put up with their politics.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9kem5e/the-uks-first-chick-fil-a-has-announced-its-closure-after-just-eight-days

The people who own and run the company won't change; they'll just change the public face for the $.

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Response to we can do it (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:05 PM

cstanleytech (21,976 posts)

15. Bingo!! nt

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Response to we can do it (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:21 PM

efhmc (12,940 posts)

29. I do not care about the motivation but the results.

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Response to efhmc (Reply #29)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:01 PM

we can do it (9,340 posts)

37. I do. Hypocrites suck and won't get any of my $s.

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Response to we can do it (Reply #37)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 04:54 PM

11 Bravo (21,146 posts)

48. I've known Buck McCabe (former CFO of Chik-fil-A) for over 40 years.

He's a devout Christian, but he doesn't have a prejudiced bone in his body. I can't speak for Cathay (the big boss), but not everyone at the company is a homophobic bigot.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #48)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:59 AM

JonLP24 (27,260 posts)

76. I didn't realize people had their bones tested for bigotry

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #48)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:44 AM

stopdiggin (4,037 posts)

79. to my way of thinking, if you're giving money to people that are staunchly

anti-LGBT. Then you're either a bigot .. or of extremely limited intellect.

(I know a lot of Christians try to straddle the fence on this .. and there are plenty of Christian churches that have legitimately changed their message .. but if you're still with one of those that are mouthing platitudes about "loving the sinner" ...-Then it just doesn't wash.)

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #48)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 06:46 AM

hlthe2b (83,432 posts)

80. It is Cathay who has been the issue. n/t

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Response to we can do it (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:29 PM

mountain grammy (22,534 posts)

33. Exactly!

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Response to we can do it (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:11 PM

tymorial (3,312 posts)

56. So it's about money

In a perfect world I 2 would rather they have changed and completely Embrace lgbtqa people. Even if they don't the right-wing still not getting their money and at the end of the day that's a good thing

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:50 AM

Farmer-Rick (4,762 posts)

13. They have really bad chicken sandwiches.

I ate there once when they first started. They microwaved my chicken so it was hard as a rock.

But now I just don't eat there because they have horrible politics and weird religious crap. Probably why their chicken is so absolutely awful. It's a warning.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:50 PM

mr_lebowski (18,736 posts)

24. It's really not awful ... been there a few times, it's def. not microwaved ...

Pretty obvious the chicken is straight from the fryer.

For fast food, their stuff ain't bad.

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #24)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:25 PM

efhmc (12,940 posts)

30. They have a playground and stuff my gchildren will eat.

I get a salad which I share with them. I stopped going for a while but got a new set of gchildren and caved. So pandering for cash if the policy changes is better than previously. And I guess I was pandering to my peeps and so maybe relieve my conscience a little.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:14 AM

Loki Liesmith (4,294 posts)

3. Their corporate giving hasn't mattered to me much anyway.

I can’t see myself eating there more often.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:16 AM

Archae (42,412 posts)

5. I'll believe it when I see it.

"Christians" like the family that runs Chik-Fil-A are notorious for lying through their teeth.

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Response to Archae (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:33 PM

atreides1 (15,258 posts)

35. What Archae said!!

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:20 AM

Cirque du So-What (17,294 posts)

6. I still won't patronize that business

Just knowing the bigotry harbored in their gristly little hearts would ruin the experience - and that won't change, no matter how much they change policy.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:22 AM

LastDemocratInSC (1,849 posts)

7. I have never darkened their door and don't plan to.

This change is a marketing necessity. They cannot outrun their legacy.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:29 AM

MuseRider (30,809 posts)

9. What? All the years of outloud bigotry

cutting into their profits? They need more so they must expand?

Fuck em!

I do not believe for one moment they are doing this because of their feeling bad over past bigotry.

I have never eaten there and I never will unless I see them donating heavily to equality issues, equality for all but most especially for LGBTQ+.

I will wait and see. I see they are changing their charitable giving. Good. I will wait. It will take a while before I actually believe it. I want to make certain they are not also still donating to places that do not believe in equality. A donation to HRC will not cut it.

I spent too many years working this issue to see them get to squirrel out of all the damage they have done.

Yo! Salvation Army? You next?

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Response to MuseRider (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:43 PM

MurrayDelph (4,317 posts)

36. I see this as akin to those Republicans who were re-elected with tainted money

Offering to donate an equivalent amount to charity now that they've already made use of it, in the hopes of removing their taint.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:31 AM

BlueIdaho (9,100 posts)

10. Corporate Triangulation

Not impressed.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:41 AM

Mickju (871 posts)

11. They are still assholes

The idiots in my town see eating at Chick-fil-a as a badge of honor. It's absolutely sickening. My sister is one of them. I have never set foot in one.

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Response to Mickju (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:19 PM

klook (9,992 posts)

28. An excellent place to eat if you've lost the urge to live.

Antibiotic-laden chicken cooked in grease, accompanied by lots of salt, starch, and sugar. Yeah!

I gave it a try years ago when I worked right across the street from one. I can’t imagine getting addicted to that crap — glad I chose healthier (and less bigoted) options a long time ago.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:49 AM

stopbush (23,420 posts)

12. They've said that before. I'll believe it when I see it.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:59 AM

randr (11,055 posts)

14. Can't wait to see the crazy protests

I have never gone to a Chick-fil so far. The minute I see right wing protesters I'm in line.

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Response to randr (Reply #14)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:44 PM

IronLionZion (32,004 posts)

43. Freepers are complaining about it

the gays are oppressing them somehow

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:12 PM

keithbvadu2 (19,272 posts)

16. Money supersedes religious beliefs.

Money supersedes religious beliefs.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:13 PM

BillyBobBrilliant (627 posts)

17. I will give them another try

on Sunday...

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Response to BillyBobBrilliant (Reply #17)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:16 PM

klook (9,992 posts)

26. LOL - yep. (nt)

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Response to BillyBobBrilliant (Reply #17)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:17 PM

aggiesal (5,552 posts)

27. And we all know, they are not opened on Sunday ...

being a day of worship.

This certainly befits your name.
Brilliant!

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:15 PM

sdfernando (3,576 posts)

18. I have never set foot inside or driven thru any of their establishments

I tried one of their chicken sandwiches unknowingly at a company event (packaging was gone). I was thoroughly NOT IMPRESSED. It was dry and bland and after two bites it was in the trash.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:20 PM

LeftInTX (14,742 posts)

19. Didn't they say they already stopped a few years ago?

Nevermind..........

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:27 PM

kysrsoze (5,243 posts)

20. They must really be worried about those Popeyes chicken sandwiches

Money talks, i guess.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:29 PM

C_U_L8R (39,712 posts)

21. The taste of hate lingers.

And clearly Popeye's is kicking their butt with a superior non-discriminating fried chicken sandwich

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:26 PM

BannonsLiver (11,598 posts)

31. Problem is Popeyes customer service is consistently and uniquely awful

Also product is wildly inconsistent across the country. I know this because I’m a Popeyes fan, and also a masochist, apparently.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:34 PM

IcyPeas (12,367 posts)

22. the line was around the block

a new drive-thru Chick fil A opened near me last week and you should've seen the crowd! they don't appear to be suffering from those who won't eat their food. They are opening 10 more in the Los Angeles area this year!

https://patch.com/california/encino/chick-fil-drive-thru-open-thursday-encino

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:39 PM

Raster (20,428 posts)

23. I have NEVER eaten there...

... no fucking chicken sandwich tastes better than freedom.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:09 PM

ToxMarz (1,684 posts)

25. It's all about the Benjamins

Their "base" served them well (weird that a fast food restaurant even has a "base"

, but they are now it's limiting growth factor. Oh well, on to the bigger bucks.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:28 PM

BannonsLiver (11,598 posts)

32. I like Chik Fil A

But not as much as I like watching DUs food snobs descend on a thread about Chick Fil A!

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:06 PM

LanternWaste (36,784 posts)

39. I'd guess the corollary is also true.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:50 PM

IronLionZion (32,004 posts)

45. I like pit bulls and Olive Garden

DU snobs descending on threads are one of the most satisfying things to watch!

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 06:53 PM

happybird (1,997 posts)

53. +1

When I read the title, I thought folks would be pleased.

The nuggets are always bangin’
Shakes, too, and the Cobb salad.

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Response to happybird (Reply #53)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:58 AM

JonLP24 (27,260 posts)

75. They changed their position due to outrage from conservatives

If I was a meat eater I would make sure not to go there as they are clearly worried about conservatives not going there.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:13 PM

bearsfootball516 (5,775 posts)

57. It's amusing to see the "I've never eaten there!" And "their food is awful!" Posts

Go there at lunch or dinner time and look at the line wrapped twice around the building. They’re one of the most profitable fast food chains in the country, and that’s with only being open 6 days a week.

If their food was bad, that wouldn’t be a thing.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #57)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:00 PM

BannonsLiver (11,598 posts)

63. They provide good customer service and a consistent product

I think the sandwiches are on the small side but Americans are fat so maybe it’s just right. I’d also mention they pay their employees more than other fast food franchises and did long before that became a social issue. My guess is that’s why places like Popeyes are shit shows. Go look up a Popeyes in any major city on Yelp and see what the reviews are like. My city has more than a dozen and every one of them are poorly reviewed, in fact comically so.

I boycotted Chick Fil A for a solid year, then I found myself in a situation on the road where it was the only option. Sometimes life gets in the way of wokeness, i suppose.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #63)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 08:01 PM

rockfordfile (6,357 posts)

66. to give money to a un-American company like that is to support hate groups

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Response to rockfordfile (Reply #66)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 08:10 PM

bearsfootball516 (5,775 posts)

68. That's a pretty absurd statement to make.

I’m close to quite a few people in the LGBT family who go to Chick-Fil-A quite often and enjoy it. If it’s good enough for them, it’s good enough for me.

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Response to rockfordfile (Reply #66)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 09:16 PM

BannonsLiver (11,598 posts)

70. Well you sure showed me.

I guess I better cancel my lunch with Anita Bryant.

Here's an idea, you do you, and i'll do me. Thanks!

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Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:59 PM

rockfordfile (6,357 posts)

65. That's because of all the un-American religious nut jobs. Most people go to other places.

Majority of people go to other place and have more choices

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Tue Nov 19, 2019, 08:12 PM

bearsfootball516 (5,775 posts)

69. You're pretty out of touch if you think the only people going to CFA are religious nut jobs.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 02:08 AM

sir pball (3,486 posts)

60. Aw hell, I'm a certified food snob

Been cooking for 24 years, in NYC for 10, been a chef for 5 - if you think CFA is bad, low-quality, or (lol) microwaved, you just don't like fried chicken. Yeah, Charles' Pan Fried Chicken up on Fred Douglass is probably the best thing I've ever eaten, but CFA is some pretty damn decent bird politics aside.

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Response to sir pball (Reply #60)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:05 PM

BannonsLiver (11,598 posts)

64. Yeah it's a solid option

That being said I think what you mentioned sounds pretty amazing!

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #64)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:30 AM

sir pball (3,486 posts)

73. I don't seek them out but I'll cheerfully eat there

I tend towards Popeye's for fast food chicken, cuz there's several a lot closer to home than the nearest CFA.

Charles' is a whole.dofferent universe; it's the best fried chicken I've ever had. My Louisiana-bred wife says it's better than her grandma's was.

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Response to sir pball (Reply #60)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 08:04 PM

rockfordfile (6,357 posts)

67. What? CFA is a un-American company that supports hate groups. Do you support cfa?

Yes cfa food is crap. But I think being a un-American pos is a lot worst.

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Tue Nov 19, 2019, 09:17 PM

BannonsLiver (11,598 posts)

71. "a lot worst"

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Response to rockfordfile (Reply #67)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:27 AM

sir pball (3,486 posts)

72. I take it you don't like fried chicken.

I'm CFA agnostic; yes the Cathy family are right bastards but so are the Waltons, the Kochs, and innumerable 1%ers making tons of money off publicly traded companies. The only truly ethical purchasing is from a privately held company who's politics you agree with.

My only point was that CFA chicken is actually pretty damned good; if you want to oppose them for their politics more power to you but don't sniff and say "and their chicken sucks anyway" cuz it doesn't. Better'n Popeye's for sure (I also love Popeye's for the record)

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Response to sir pball (Reply #72)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:56 AM

JonLP24 (27,260 posts)

74. Isn't whether chicken is good or not subjective?

I took advantage of a coupon there awhile ago and it was nothing special just a fast food place that tries to look like a restaurant. It just taste like chicken I can get the same thing at any other chicken place but I quit eating meat. Meat in general is nothing special.

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Response to JonLP24 (Reply #74)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:39 AM

sir pball (3,486 posts)

81. Taste is subjective, of course

But there's also at least semi-objective levels of "good" once we've crossed the threshold of "I don't like X in general" - keeping in chicken terms, you *cannot* say McNuggets are better than a bucket of Popeye's bone-in. As you said, you don't consider any meat to be special, so from your perspective CFA won't be better, nor presumably worse, than than KFC/Popeye's/McDs/Wendys.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:30 PM

MurrayDelph (4,317 posts)

34. I used to like their sandwiches

but haven't had one in over 20 years, ever since I heard about how old man Cathy spent the profits.

While the current move is a step in the right direction, it is too little too late. Until amends are made, the only way I'll set foot in one of their stores is for a bathroom emergency.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:05 PM

brooklynite (68,035 posts)

38. They can still go after the atheists, right?

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:29 PM

IronLionZion (32,004 posts)

42. How does one go after atheists?

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:15 PM

Unclephil (92 posts)

40. As opposed to most people here

I have been to their corporate offices multiple times. Twenty years ago I consulted on their POS systems. I had just stopped selling POPS systems and because I had good knowledge I helped them.

I know the head of IT security fairly well. I think they are not evil. They are very religious. This is a big change for them and maybe they are growing. They do not hurt for profits and the chicken biscuit is the best. Their service is the best in the fast food business and if you work for them during your high school years they help you with college expenses.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:26 PM

IronLionZion (32,004 posts)

41. This probably has more to do with Popeye's kicking their Christian ass

with a superior product.

Chick-fil-GAY employees tend to be friendly enough when providing service, as they are trained to be. It's great if the company really is turning away from hate. They are a popular fundraising partner for most any type of diversity group or charity except the LGBTQ ones.

There are online recipes for people who want to recreate their sandwiches at home without the hate.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:45 PM

rockfordfile (6,357 posts)

44. Don't buy it. religious types lie all of the time. Their food is still crap

I tried them as a kid years ago in a mall and it was terrible.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 04:03 PM

OKNancy (41,826 posts)

47. Oh good. My gay daughter loves chick-fil-a salad bowls

She knows about the company and the views. LOL she said " I don't give a shit, I like the chicken salad"
She can't have gluten so that is why she likes the salad bowl.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 04:58 PM

Nitram (16,046 posts)

49. Economic pressure can encourage changes in behavior.

This is a good thing.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 06:29 PM

Takket (13,779 posts)

50. was interested to see the DU reaction to this.......

Saw the headline and while I'm not going to run out and try their product (they are building one a few miles from me in Michigan as we speak), I like the move. I'd like to see more, i.e. LGBTQ groups keeping an eye on them and making sure they aren't still funneling money to hate somewhere else.

But we always talk about boycotting companies who's practices we don't like, and this one is changing a policy. Isn't that exactly what we want? and Chick-fil-A is NOT hurting for money. They didn't have to do this to avoid a loss of stay out of bankruptcy.

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Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:23 AM

OriginalGeek (11,715 posts)

82. My initial reaction was not to trust them

and I was right: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142397852

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 06:43 PM

Gothmog (91,276 posts)

51. Mike Huckabee: It's 'tragic' Chick-fil-A will focus its charitable giving on causes that aren't anti

Link to tweet

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 06:48 PM

Skittles (133,202 posts)

52. they can still fuck themselves

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:09 PM

GulfCoast66 (10,511 posts)

55. A good thing I guess. Rather unimportant in the big picture.

I’m no fan of chicken no matter who makes it so I won’t be going.

Well, fried chicken on the bone done well transcends the poultry family and is one of the best thing ever.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:38 PM

dustyscamp (1,615 posts)

59. The Cons are mad XD

Link to tweet

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Tue Nov 19, 2019, 04:50 PM

jcmaine72 (1,364 posts)

61. I would still never patronize them

The only difference now is that the Cons are royally ticked at them too and many are vowing never to patronize them again. They now have no customer base that trusts them.

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Tue Nov 19, 2019, 05:00 PM

GoneOffShore (15,335 posts)

62. Makes no difference. Their history will follow them.

And their food? Mass produced garbage with too much sugar and too much salt.

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