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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:08 AM

EXCLUSIVE: Chick-fil-A To Stop Donations To Charities With Anti-LGBT Views

Source: Bisnow

As Chick-fil-A expands globally and into more liberal parts of the U.S., the chicken chain plans to change which charities it donates to after years of bad press and protests from the LGBT community

Read more: https://www.bisnow.com/national/news/retail/exclusive-amid-global-expansion-and-lgbt-pushback-chick-fil-a-changes-charitable-giving-structure-101818



About F---in' time - I did enjoy their chicken salad sandwich on wheat and their milk shakes.

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Reply EXCLUSIVE: Chick-fil-A To Stop Donations To Charities With Anti-LGBT Views (Original post)
packman Nov 18 OP
hlthe2b Nov 18 #1
mpcamb Nov 18 #46
tymorial Nov 18 #54
hlthe2b Nov 18 #58
stopdiggin Nov 20 #77
bucolic_frolic Nov 18 #2
we can do it Nov 18 #4
crickets Nov 18 #8
cstanleytech Nov 18 #15
efhmc Nov 18 #29
we can do it Nov 18 #37
11 Bravo Nov 18 #48
JonLP24 Nov 20 #76
stopdiggin Nov 20 #79
hlthe2b Nov 20 #80
mountain grammy Nov 18 #33
tymorial Nov 18 #56
Farmer-Rick Nov 18 #13
mr_lebowski Nov 18 #24
efhmc Nov 18 #30
Loki Liesmith Nov 18 #3
Archae Nov 18 #5
atreides1 Nov 18 #35
Cirque du So-What Nov 18 #6
LastDemocratInSC Nov 18 #7
MuseRider Nov 18 #9
MurrayDelph Nov 18 #36
BlueIdaho Nov 18 #10
Mickju Nov 18 #11
klook Nov 18 #28
stopbush Nov 18 #12
randr Nov 18 #14
IronLionZion Nov 18 #43
keithbvadu2 Nov 18 #16
BillyBobBrilliant Nov 18 #17
klook Nov 18 #26
aggiesal Nov 18 #27
sdfernando Nov 18 #18
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C_U_L8R Nov 18 #21
BannonsLiver Nov 18 #31
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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:10 AM

1. too little too late, IMO. I'll wait to see whether this is more than just pandering.

Frankly, I'm unlikely to forgive them for continuing to use styrofoam cups more than a decade after all others discontinued using them due to their severe harm to the environment.

It isn't just LGBTQ issues that make them subject to derision.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 03:23 PM

46. Agree. It doesn't mean they doing anything positive or right, just not objectively wrong

from my point of view.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:08 PM

54. Who cares what their motivation is

I don't care if this is entirely about profit. If their actions match their words then it doesn't really matter what is in their heart because it means the right wing isn't getting their money

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Response to tymorial (Reply #54)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:13 PM

58. Their motivation is everything. It predicts what else they will do or not do including

as I pointed out, their rather horrific record on environmental sustainability.

And, I'd bet the LGBTQ community would like to know if this represents a motivated change of heart or merely an opportunity on the short term.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:29 AM

77. agreed. POS is a POS

I'm not a big time boycott activist, but .. Hobby Lobby and Chick-fil-A .. they'll be pushing dirt in over top of me before ....

(These companies have made a POINT of putting THEMSELVES at the front of the culture wars. No accident. No misstep No misinterpretation. They deliberately used their brand recognition and considerable resources .. weighing in on the WRONG side, to do damage to real persons and the public square. It's not just a difference of opinion. It's tearing at the fabric of who we are. They don't warrant a pardon or a do over. They made their bed .. and rubbed everyone's nose in it while doing so!)

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:11 AM

2. Considering the

Conservative Christian nature of the company, this is a major statement of tolerance.

Nonetheless, I never go there. Been boycotting them forever. Amen.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:15 AM

4. Not tolerance, loss of $.

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Response to we can do it (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:26 AM

8. This. The rest of the world won't put up with their politics.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9kem5e/the-uks-first-chick-fil-a-has-announced-its-closure-after-just-eight-days

The people who own and run the company won't change; they'll just change the public face for the $.

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Response to we can do it (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:05 PM

15. Bingo!! nt

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Response to we can do it (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:21 PM

29. I do not care about the motivation but the results.

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Response to efhmc (Reply #29)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:01 PM

37. I do. Hypocrites suck and won't get any of my $s.

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Response to we can do it (Reply #37)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 04:54 PM

48. I've known Buck McCabe (former CFO of Chik-fil-A) for over 40 years.

He's a devout Christian, but he doesn't have a prejudiced bone in his body. I can't speak for Cathay (the big boss), but not everyone at the company is a homophobic bigot.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #48)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:59 AM

76. I didn't realize people had their bones tested for bigotry

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #48)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:44 AM

79. to my way of thinking, if you're giving money to people that are staunchly

anti-LGBT. Then you're either a bigot .. or of extremely limited intellect.

(I know a lot of Christians try to straddle the fence on this .. and there are plenty of Christian churches that have legitimately changed their message .. but if you're still with one of those that are mouthing platitudes about "loving the sinner" ...-Then it just doesn't wash.)

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #48)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 06:46 AM

80. It is Cathay who has been the issue. n/t

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Response to we can do it (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:29 PM

33. Exactly!

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Response to we can do it (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:11 PM

56. So it's about money

In a perfect world I 2 would rather they have changed and completely Embrace lgbtqa people. Even if they don't the right-wing still not getting their money and at the end of the day that's a good thing

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:50 AM

13. They have really bad chicken sandwiches.

I ate there once when they first started. They microwaved my chicken so it was hard as a rock.

But now I just don't eat there because they have horrible politics and weird religious crap. Probably why their chicken is so absolutely awful. It's a warning.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:50 PM

24. It's really not awful ... been there a few times, it's def. not microwaved ...

Pretty obvious the chicken is straight from the fryer.

For fast food, their stuff ain't bad.

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #24)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:25 PM

30. They have a playground and stuff my gchildren will eat.

I get a salad which I share with them. I stopped going for a while but got a new set of gchildren and caved. So pandering for cash if the policy changes is better than previously. And I guess I was pandering to my peeps and so maybe relieve my conscience a little.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:14 AM

3. Their corporate giving hasn't mattered to me much anyway.

I canít see myself eating there more often.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:16 AM

5. I'll believe it when I see it.

"Christians" like the family that runs Chik-Fil-A are notorious for lying through their teeth.

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Response to Archae (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:33 PM

35. What Archae said!!

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:20 AM

6. I still won't patronize that business

Just knowing the bigotry harbored in their gristly little hearts would ruin the experience - and that won't change, no matter how much they change policy.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:22 AM

7. I have never darkened their door and don't plan to.

This change is a marketing necessity. They cannot outrun their legacy.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:29 AM

9. What? All the years of outloud bigotry

cutting into their profits? They need more so they must expand?

Fuck em!

I do not believe for one moment they are doing this because of their feeling bad over past bigotry.

I have never eaten there and I never will unless I see them donating heavily to equality issues, equality for all but most especially for LGBTQ+.

I will wait and see. I see they are changing their charitable giving. Good. I will wait. It will take a while before I actually believe it. I want to make certain they are not also still donating to places that do not believe in equality. A donation to HRC will not cut it.

I spent too many years working this issue to see them get to squirrel out of all the damage they have done.

Yo! Salvation Army? You next?

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Response to MuseRider (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:43 PM

36. I see this as akin to those Republicans who were re-elected with tainted money

Offering to donate an equivalent amount to charity now that they've already made use of it, in the hopes of removing their taint.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:31 AM

10. Corporate Triangulation

Not impressed.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:41 AM

11. They are still assholes

The idiots in my town see eating at Chick-fil-a as a badge of honor. It's absolutely sickening. My sister is one of them. I have never set foot in one.

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Response to Mickju (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:19 PM

28. An excellent place to eat if you've lost the urge to live.

Antibiotic-laden chicken cooked in grease, accompanied by lots of salt, starch, and sugar. Yeah!

I gave it a try years ago when I worked right across the street from one. I canít imagine getting addicted to that crap ó glad I chose healthier (and less bigoted) options a long time ago.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:49 AM

12. They've said that before. I'll believe it when I see it.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:59 AM

14. Can't wait to see the crazy protests

I have never gone to a Chick-fil so far. The minute I see right wing protesters I'm in line.

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Response to randr (Reply #14)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:44 PM

43. Freepers are complaining about it

the gays are oppressing them somehow

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:12 PM

16. Money supersedes religious beliefs.

Money supersedes religious beliefs.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:13 PM

17. I will give them another try

on Sunday...

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Response to BillyBobBrilliant (Reply #17)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:16 PM

26. LOL - yep. (nt)

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Response to BillyBobBrilliant (Reply #17)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:17 PM

27. And we all know, they are not opened on Sunday ...

being a day of worship.

This certainly befits your name.
Brilliant!

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:15 PM

18. I have never set foot inside or driven thru any of their establishments

I tried one of their chicken sandwiches unknowingly at a company event (packaging was gone). I was thoroughly NOT IMPRESSED. It was dry and bland and after two bites it was in the trash.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:20 PM

19. Didn't they say they already stopped a few years ago?

Nevermind..........

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:27 PM

20. They must really be worried about those Popeyes chicken sandwiches

Money talks, i guess.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:29 PM

21. The taste of hate lingers.

And clearly Popeye's is kicking their butt with a superior non-discriminating fried chicken sandwich

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:26 PM

31. Problem is Popeyes customer service is consistently and uniquely awful

Also product is wildly inconsistent across the country. I know this because Iím a Popeyes fan, and also a masochist, apparently.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:34 PM

22. the line was around the block

a new drive-thru Chick fil A opened near me last week and you should've seen the crowd! they don't appear to be suffering from those who won't eat their food. They are opening 10 more in the Los Angeles area this year!

https://patch.com/california/encino/chick-fil-drive-thru-open-thursday-encino

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 12:39 PM

23. I have NEVER eaten there...

... no fucking chicken sandwich tastes better than freedom.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:09 PM

25. It's all about the Benjamins

Their "base" served them well (weird that a fast food restaurant even has a "base", but they are now it's limiting growth factor. Oh well, on to the bigger bucks.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:28 PM

32. I like Chik Fil A

But not as much as I like watching DUs food snobs descend on a thread about Chick Fil A!

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:06 PM

39. I'd guess the corollary is also true.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:50 PM

45. I like pit bulls and Olive Garden

DU snobs descending on threads are one of the most satisfying things to watch!

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 06:53 PM

53. +1

When I read the title, I thought folks would be pleased.


The nuggets are always banginí
Shakes, too, and the Cobb salad.

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Response to happybird (Reply #53)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:58 AM

75. They changed their position due to outrage from conservatives

If I was a meat eater I would make sure not to go there as they are clearly worried about conservatives not going there.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:13 PM

57. It's amusing to see the "I've never eaten there!" And "their food is awful!" Posts

Go there at lunch or dinner time and look at the line wrapped twice around the building. Theyíre one of the most profitable fast food chains in the country, and thatís with only being open 6 days a week.

If their food was bad, that wouldnít be a thing.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #57)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:00 PM

63. They provide good customer service and a consistent product

I think the sandwiches are on the small side but Americans are fat so maybe itís just right. Iíd also mention they pay their employees more than other fast food franchises and did long before that became a social issue. My guess is thatís why places like Popeyes are shit shows. Go look up a Popeyes in any major city on Yelp and see what the reviews are like. My city has more than a dozen and every one of them are poorly reviewed, in fact comically so.

I boycotted Chick Fil A for a solid year, then I found myself in a situation on the road where it was the only option. Sometimes life gets in the way of wokeness, i suppose.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #63)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 08:01 PM

66. to give money to a un-American company like that is to support hate groups

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Response to rockfordfile (Reply #66)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 08:10 PM

68. That's a pretty absurd statement to make.

Iím close to quite a few people in the LGBT family who go to Chick-Fil-A quite often and enjoy it. If itís good enough for them, itís good enough for me.

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Response to rockfordfile (Reply #66)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 09:16 PM

70. Well you sure showed me.

I guess I better cancel my lunch with Anita Bryant.

Here's an idea, you do you, and i'll do me. Thanks!

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #57)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:59 PM

65. That's because of all the un-American religious nut jobs. Most people go to other places.

Majority of people go to other place and have more choices

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Response to rockfordfile (Reply #65)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 08:12 PM

69. You're pretty out of touch if you think the only people going to CFA are religious nut jobs.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 02:08 AM

60. Aw hell, I'm a certified food snob

Been cooking for 24 years, in NYC for 10, been a chef for 5 - if you think CFA is bad, low-quality, or (lol) microwaved, you just don't like fried chicken. Yeah, Charles' Pan Fried Chicken up on Fred Douglass is probably the best thing I've ever eaten, but CFA is some pretty damn decent bird politics aside.

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Response to sir pball (Reply #60)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:05 PM

64. Yeah it's a solid option

That being said I think what you mentioned sounds pretty amazing!

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #64)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:30 AM

73. I don't seek them out but I'll cheerfully eat there

I tend towards Popeye's for fast food chicken, cuz there's several a lot closer to home than the nearest CFA.

Charles' is a whole.dofferent universe; it's the best fried chicken I've ever had. My Louisiana-bred wife says it's better than her grandma's was.

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Response to sir pball (Reply #60)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 08:04 PM

67. What? CFA is a un-American company that supports hate groups. Do you support cfa?

Yes cfa food is crap. But I think being a un-American pos is a lot worst.

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Response to rockfordfile (Reply #67)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 09:17 PM

71. "a lot worst"

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Response to rockfordfile (Reply #67)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:27 AM

72. I take it you don't like fried chicken.

I'm CFA agnostic; yes the Cathy family are right bastards but so are the Waltons, the Kochs, and innumerable 1%ers making tons of money off publicly traded companies. The only truly ethical purchasing is from a privately held company who's politics you agree with.

My only point was that CFA chicken is actually pretty damned good; if you want to oppose them for their politics more power to you but don't sniff and say "and their chicken sucks anyway" cuz it doesn't. Better'n Popeye's for sure (I also love Popeye's for the record)

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Response to sir pball (Reply #72)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:56 AM

74. Isn't whether chicken is good or not subjective?

I took advantage of a coupon there awhile ago and it was nothing special just a fast food place that tries to look like a restaurant. It just taste like chicken I can get the same thing at any other chicken place but I quit eating meat. Meat in general is nothing special.

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Response to JonLP24 (Reply #74)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:39 AM

81. Taste is subjective, of course

But there's also at least semi-objective levels of "good" once we've crossed the threshold of "I don't like X in general" - keeping in chicken terms, you *cannot* say McNuggets are better than a bucket of Popeye's bone-in. As you said, you don't consider any meat to be special, so from your perspective CFA won't be better, nor presumably worse, than than KFC/Popeye's/McDs/Wendys.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:30 PM

34. I used to like their sandwiches

but haven't had one in over 20 years, ever since I heard about how old man Cathy spent the profits.

While the current move is a step in the right direction, it is too little too late. Until amends are made, the only way I'll set foot in one of their stores is for a bathroom emergency.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:05 PM

38. They can still go after the atheists, right?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #38)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:29 PM

42. How does one go after atheists?

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:15 PM

40. As opposed to most people here

 

I have been to their corporate offices multiple times. Twenty years ago I consulted on their POS systems. I had just stopped selling POPS systems and because I had good knowledge I helped them.

I know the head of IT security fairly well. I think they are not evil. They are very religious. This is a big change for them and maybe they are growing. They do not hurt for profits and the chicken biscuit is the best. Their service is the best in the fast food business and if you work for them during your high school years they help you with college expenses.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:26 PM

41. This probably has more to do with Popeye's kicking their Christian ass

with a superior product.

Chick-fil-GAY employees tend to be friendly enough when providing service, as they are trained to be. It's great if the company really is turning away from hate. They are a popular fundraising partner for most any type of diversity group or charity except the LGBTQ ones.

There are online recipes for people who want to recreate their sandwiches at home without the hate.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:45 PM

44. Don't buy it. religious types lie all of the time. Their food is still crap

I tried them as a kid years ago in a mall and it was terrible.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 04:03 PM

47. Oh good. My gay daughter loves chick-fil-a salad bowls

She knows about the company and the views. LOL she said " I don't give a shit, I like the chicken salad"
She can't have gluten so that is why she likes the salad bowl.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 04:58 PM

49. Economic pressure can encourage changes in behavior.

This is a good thing.

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Response to packman (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 06:29 PM

50. was interested to see the DU reaction to this.......

Saw the headline and while I'm not going to run out and try their product (they are building one a few miles from me in Michigan as we speak), I like the move. I'd like to see more, i.e. LGBTQ groups keeping an eye on them and making sure they aren't still funneling money to hate somewhere else.

But we always talk about boycotting companies who's practices we don't like, and this one is changing a policy. Isn't that exactly what we want? and Chick-fil-A is NOT hurting for money. They didn't have to do this to avoid a loss of stay out of bankruptcy.

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Response to Takket (Reply #50)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:23 AM

82. My initial reaction was not to trust them

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 06:43 PM

51. Mike Huckabee: It's 'tragic' Chick-fil-A will focus its charitable giving on causes that aren't anti

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 06:48 PM

52. they can still fuck themselves

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:09 PM

55. A good thing I guess. Rather unimportant in the big picture.

Iím no fan of chicken no matter who makes it so I wonít be going.

Well, fried chicken on the bone done well transcends the poultry family and is one of the best thing ever.

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:38 PM

59. The Cons are mad XD

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Tue Nov 19, 2019, 04:50 PM

61. I would still never patronize them

The only difference now is that the Cons are royally ticked at them too and many are vowing never to patronize them again. They now have no customer base that trusts them.

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Tue Nov 19, 2019, 05:00 PM

62. Makes no difference. Their history will follow them.

And their food? Mass produced garbage with too much sugar and too much salt.

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