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Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:51 PM

Turkey launches 'massive attacks' on the Kurds -- US military are 'sickened' by Trump's betrayal: rep

Source: raw story




Turkey launches ‘massive attacks’ on the Kurds — US military are ‘sickened’ by Trump’s betrayal: report


Published 45 mins ago on November 16, 2019



Turkey launched a new offensive against the Kurds in Northern Syria, NBC chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel reported Saturday evening.

Engel hashtagged his update with #AmericanBetrayal.

“Massive attacks underway against the kurds in northern syria. No ceasefire. Total nonsenses there is,” Engel reported.

President Donald Trump reportedly greenlighted the operation against the Kurds during a phone call with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

“US military officials tell me they are ashamed, ‘sickened.’ It’s cold now outside. What about the families, and kids, out of their homes?” he wondered.

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Reply Turkey launches 'massive attacks' on the Kurds -- US military are 'sickened' by Trump's betrayal: rep (Original post)
riversedge Nov 16 OP
truthisfreedom Nov 16 #1
2naSalit Nov 16 #2
LiberalLovinLug Nov 17 #26
2naSalit Nov 17 #27
flotsam Nov 16 #3
Haggis for Breakfast Nov 16 #5
flotsam Nov 16 #7
Haggis for Breakfast Nov 16 #9
William Weehours Nov 16 #12
Haggis for Breakfast Nov 16 #4
flotsam Nov 16 #8
Haggis for Breakfast Nov 16 #10
JudyM Nov 16 #13
Haggis for Breakfast Nov 17 #19
JudyM Nov 17 #24
Haggis for Breakfast Nov 17 #28
JudyM Nov 17 #29
msongs Nov 16 #6
yaesu Nov 16 #11
ouija Nov 16 #14
Talitha Nov 16 #16
Lock him up. Nov 16 #18
duforsure Nov 17 #21
yardwork Nov 16 #15
SunSeeker Nov 16 #17
BigmanPigman Nov 17 #20
demmiblue Nov 17 #22
left-of-center2012 Nov 17 #23
Nancy Waterman Nov 17 #25
nwduke Nov 18 #30

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:57 PM

1. Psychopath.

No honor, no loyalty, just insanity.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:04 PM

2. And erdogon was just here

fucking Wednesday!

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 12:51 PM

26. Yup. Prettty obvous it was rubber stamped in that meeting

Away from "transcripts" and official records. etc..

Just a one on one. A Trump tower in Istanbul, and you can release the hounds on our allies.

I don't know why any service member could stomach to vote for Captain Bone Spur.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #26)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 12:56 PM

27. I think that

scales are falling from many eyes at this point. I have relatives in the military and uniformed services and I think they are now against the idiot. The military doesn't play games when you start fucking them over.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:11 PM

3. I'm sorry, and this is not directed at the OP

But how about some fucking reporting??? There's a large operation and ethnic cleansing??? I.mean, I agree but how about some fucking facts-outrage I can do by myself.

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Response to flotsam (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:15 PM

5. Richard Engle is ON THE GROUND there,

and will file his report as soon as he can, but he wanted to alert us NOW to what is happening at this moment.

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:25 PM

7. I understand that

I'm pissed that Raw Story published a "story" without a single detail not found in Engels's Tweet. Don't make me go to your site to tell me nothing not already tweeted...

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Response to flotsam (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:30 PM

9. That's one of the problems I have with Raw Story.

Incomplete stories. Dubious sourcing. Inaccurate reports.

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:52 PM

12. That's why it's called RAW STORY

 

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:13 PM

4. And now we all know WHY this happened.

Erdogan told trumpie that he had audio tape of Jared Kushner telling MBS that the US would not interfere in his retaliation detention (then slaughter) of Khashoggi AND he would release it if trumpie didn't get our troops the Hell out of the way of his ethnic cleansing.

So, to keep his daughter's weasel-shit husband safe, trumpie rolled over like the pig he is. (All apologies to pigs.)

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:27 PM

8. If you personally authorize

the dismemberment of a guy with a green card is that a capital crime?

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Response to flotsam (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:32 PM

10. In any moral society, yes.

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:53 PM

13. Wait, we really have evidence of this? I missed it. Or you are surmising?

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Response to JudyM (Reply #13)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 12:16 AM

19. Yes, it's true.

The Saudis did not realize that Erdogan had not just their embassy in Istanbul bugged, but he had intercepts of phone calls as well. Keep in mind that Kushner, like trumpie and others, was not using NSA satellite up-links, but unsecured phones. Not hard to snatch conversation out of the air when it's not encrypted. Lord knows who else has been listening in on the WH phone calls.

It's hard to keep up on everything. There are days when I just can't watch the news. Like last week, I didn't watch any of the hearings. Sometimes you just need to take a few days off . . . for the sake of your sanity. And blood pressure.

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 11:24 AM

24. Ok as far as I could run this down

the story came from one unnamed source. Seems like it’s not been established as fact, however likely it may be. Will definitely keep an eye on it, though!

A piece that IDs the original report:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/4/1897048/-REPORT-Kushner-OK-d-Khashoggi-Arrest-Turkey-Heard-Call-Blackmailed-Trump-over-Syrian-Troops

The original report, here, uses the qualifier “if true”:
https://spectator.us/seven-whistleblowers-jared-kushner-bin-salman/

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Response to JudyM (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 07:44 PM

28. You are right. It was The Spectator.

I read it and linked to other stories as well. Buried in one of the stories in The Guardian was another reference to Kushner and his relationship with MBS. It was reported that Kushner gave CIA information to MBS on the other Saudi princes - those that did not support him and thought he was going too far and had too much power. It was curious that just after he ascended that hundreds of Saudi royals were rounded up and questioned/detained/disappeared. And not just those in the Republic, but royals in Europe, Asia and elsewhere. MBS could not have known the where-abouts of all of those people, as some had self-exiled, intentionally keeping low profiles abroad to stay off his radar. Then all of the sudden, MBS starts purging members of the Faud family. He HAD to have had help, not only locating some of these people, but assistance from others in getting them back into Saudi Arabia - some were kidnapped.

I think he's a ruthless, power-hungry and dangerous person. But what I can't understand is how Kushner, a Jew, can stomach advancing the agenda of the Saudis.

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #28)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 08:01 PM

29. Even more so because of the Holocaust history in his family. But his father didn't have the highest

ethics, so he was probably not raised as a decent Jew.

MBS and Putin are certainly 2 of a kind... and there they are, sitting atop the world powers.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:22 PM

6. rotstory lol nt

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:34 PM

11. They are sickened but 2/3rds will continue to vote for the fascists. nt

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Response to yaesu (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:54 PM

14. Question is

What did Trump get for selling out the Kurds and US foreign policy? Trump does not do anything for nothing. Find out what he is getting out of this and that would be a treasonous act IMO.

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Response to ouija (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 11:18 PM

16. EXACTLY

Impeach NOW!!!!

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Response to ouija (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 11:51 PM

18. If you could ask that question to Putin...

... he has a (future) trump tower in Moscow (the biggest tallest in the world) to sell.

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Response to ouija (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 04:45 AM

21. I suspect Erdogan

Has the evidence on trump money laundering using his Istanbul property to use to do it with , and has that over his head knowing he has him compromised and possibly along with trump selling policy to him for personal gain using Jared . Erdogan has him exactly where he wants him now. Follow the money and like he's done before I'd bet he had shell companies to funnel it into his properties , then into his pockets, again like he's done to use for his tax deductions he's manufactured to evade taxes with. They'll be finding crimes this guy was involved in for decades probably.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:55 PM

15. I feel sick.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 11:19 PM

17. War crimes aided and abetted by Trump.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 12:16 AM

20. I guess they were looking for a heart and brain during his physical this AM.

Fucking asshole has blood on his hands. The sooner he is out of office the better and I do not care how it is done. Take him out ASAP!

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 07:49 AM

22. My god, this is horryfying.

The more I talk talk to sources, the more i’m hearing America’s betrayal of the Kurds, and the humiliation, “misogynistic” “squashing” of US ambassador in Ukraine for political motivations makes people think, we, Americans, have become the “bad guys.” Hearing it was gut punch.


We have, indeed.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 09:01 AM

23. "Trump praised Erdoğan during a White House visit on Thursday"

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 11:58 AM

25. Not just the Ukrainians who were sold out for Trump's selfish interests

Eventually we will learn about the selfish personal financial reasons for the Kurdish sell out. He has betrayed the Kurds and betrayed the Ukrainians. Who is next? And the Republican Eunuch Party continues to support his path of destruction.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 10:14 AM

30. The media said nothing!

This is more of a war crime initiated by trump than the current impeachment crime, yet hardly a mention in the media. Then to top it of, he brings the war criminal, Erdogan, to the White House to praise him. Disgusting!

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