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demmiblue

(36,823 posts)
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:59 PM Nov 2019

Prince Andrew: I thought staying with Epstein was 'honourable thing'

Source: The Guardian

Prince Andrew has said he regrets staying with the convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein but believed it was the “honourable” thing to do at the time.

The prince made the comments in an interview with BBC Two’s Newsnight programme, the first time he has spoken publicly about his friendship with Epstein. The programme is to be broadcast on Saturday night.

When asked by Emily Maitlis why he stayed in the house of a convicted sex offender in a pre-recorded interview, understood to have been the result of six months of negotiations with the royal household, Andrew described it as a “convenient place to stay”. He said: “I’ve gone through this in my mind so many times but at the end of the day with the benefit of all the hindsight that one can have it was definitely the wrong thing to do but at the time I felt it was the honourable and right thing to do.

“I admit fully my judgment was probably coloured by my tendency to be too honourable but that’s just the way it is.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/16/prince-andrew-believed-staying-with-jeffrey-epstein-right-thing-to-do



Give me a fucking break.
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Prince Andrew: I thought staying with Epstein was 'honourable thing' (Original Post) demmiblue Nov 2019 OP
He was one of the men fingered by Epstein's victims Scotch-Irish Nov 2019 #1
In a manner of speaking.... NT mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2019 #12
LOL! Scotch-Irish Nov 2019 #13
Gag me, Andrew! True Blue American Nov 2019 #2
Why are you mentioning Sarah Ferguson re: HIS sex crimes?! obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #38
Because her past True Blue American Nov 2019 #39
"my tendency to be too honourable" Yeehah Nov 2019 #3
The only reason he is explaining this is because he is too compulsively honest. Midnight Writer Nov 2019 #17
It's like... DrToast Nov 2019 #18
Yeah, the sex with an underage girl was just a perk, eh Prince!? B Stieg Nov 2019 #4
he has been caught and most likely guilty as hell, as being "honorable" does not mean beachbumbob Nov 2019 #5
Right, on what basis is this possibly honorable? Because it saved the Crown $ on a hotel? JudyM Nov 2019 #30
I think his judgment had more to do with young girls than honor. Vinca Nov 2019 #6
the rich, pampered elite class is so out of touch with reality. nt yaesu Nov 2019 #7
Underage girls hard to find in britain... Maxheader Nov 2019 #8
So, Miguelito Loveless Nov 2019 #9
Lying SOS. So tired of watching rich, entitled assholes getting away with crimes. Evolve Dammit Nov 2019 #10
Sounds as though not fooled Nov 2019 #11
He is a corrupt POS. 58Sunliner Nov 2019 #14
I looked up the word "honorable" in the dictionary. Sugar Smack Nov 2019 #15
It must mean something different when you add the 'u' DrToast Nov 2019 #19
Why are you condemning a whole nation? Tipperary Nov 2019 #42
Absolutely the wrong word to use in any conjunction with Epstein. keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #16
Note to Prince Andrew: That which is honourable is rarely convenient. And vice versa. catrose Nov 2019 #20
He's disgusting... VarryOn Nov 2019 #21
An honorable rich guy had no place to stay, so he crashed with a convicted pedophile. Sounds legit. flibbitygiblets Nov 2019 #22
You just KNOW that the PR people at Buck House Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2019 #23
His tendency to be TOO HONORABLE???? Lulu KC Nov 2019 #24
If you want to know more about Royalty & nonces The King of Prussia Nov 2019 #25
he uses the word with a completely different meaning than the 99% Kurt V. Nov 2019 #26
I am not excusing his behavior. But he is certain;y not the only British royal to have been totodeinhere Nov 2019 #27
He fits in with Trump and his perfect phone calls and beautiful notes? Brainfodder Nov 2019 #28
He's Queen Elizabeth's favorite son, that's how he gets away with so much crap ansible Nov 2019 #29
hey Andy... myohmy2 Nov 2019 #31
Maybe he was thinking of the limerick truthisfreedom Nov 2019 #32
Prince Andrew: I didn't have sex with teenager, I was home after Pizza Express in Woking Judi Lynn Nov 2019 #33
WTH: demmiblue Nov 2019 #34
Wow. love_katz Nov 2019 #35
Seriously??????? He expects people to believe that horse💩? Karma13612 Nov 2019 #37
"Sure, Jan..." MissouriLibrul Nov 2019 #36
Andrew, Andrew, Andrew! Aussie105 Nov 2019 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author magicarpet Nov 2019 #41

obamanut2012

(26,047 posts)
38. Why are you mentioning Sarah Ferguson re: HIS sex crimes?!
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 08:11 PM
Nov 2019

Fergie has major ethical issues, but she wasn't the one raping trafficking girls.

Why the fuck do people ALWAYS smear the wives and GFs of these men?!

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
39. Because her past
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 05:02 AM
Nov 2019

Was sordid, too. Maybe you should read up. Major scandal.

You might want to read the posts further down for the details on Sarah before you jump again.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
18. It's like...
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:25 PM
Nov 2019

It’s like when a job interviewer asks you your weaknesses and you say, “I work too hard!”

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
5. he has been caught and most likely guilty as hell, as being "honorable" does not mean
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:53 PM
Nov 2019

embracing a POS like Epstein

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
11. Sounds as though
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 03:28 PM
Nov 2019

he's attending the Donald J. Trump School of Public Relations, i.e. claim the opposite of the truth and wrap the lie in patently false innocence and piety.




58Sunliner

(4,372 posts)
14. He is a corrupt POS.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 03:47 PM
Nov 2019

His Wicki is full of scandals, money laundering, kick-backs, etc.. In March 2011, it was reported that the Duke's friendship with Jeffrey Epstein, an American financier and convicted sex offender, was producing "a steady stream of criticism". Sarah, Duchess of York, disclosed that the Duke helped arrange for Epstein to pay off some of her debts.[34] The Duke strolled publicly with Epstein after the latter's release from prison, allegedly while negotiating this financial help.[35] In July 2011, the Duke was reported to have cut all ties with Epstein,[36] and the Duke's role as Trade Envoy was terminated that month.[37]

Sugar Smack

(18,748 posts)
15. I looked up the word "honorable" in the dictionary.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:07 PM
Nov 2019

I do that whenever someone (republican, royal, low-info or trumpian) tries to muddy our beautiful, nuanced language (the Queen's English, FFS!!) with vagueries, (peppered with enthusiastic non sequiturs). This tool, a notebook, and a good pen help keep me mired in reality.

"Honorable" synonyms: ethical, principled, honest , morally sound, righteous -which is what the poor guy is trying to project.

I see your eye-roll and raise you a

keithbvadu2

(36,667 posts)
16. Absolutely the wrong word to use in any conjunction with Epstein.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:24 PM
Nov 2019

Absolutely the wrong word to use in any conjunction with Epstein.

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
21. He's disgusting...
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 06:00 PM
Nov 2019

I hope every man that was involved gets outed. Hopefully, Epstein left good documentary evidence.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
22. An honorable rich guy had no place to stay, so he crashed with a convicted pedophile. Sounds legit.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 06:06 PM
Nov 2019

I mean, it's so hard to find lodgings when one is fabulously wealthy, what's an entitled man of honor to do?

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
23. You just KNOW that the PR people at Buck House
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 06:48 PM
Nov 2019

are turning themselves into contortionists to come up with anything that makes Andy look like anything other than the sexual predator/opportunist that he has always been.

This must be driving his Mum upside down. He IS her favorite child.

Lulu KC

(2,561 posts)
24. His tendency to be TOO HONORABLE????
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 07:52 PM
Nov 2019

This one takes the cake!
Go away, sir, and please be quiet.
I wonder if there are new charges pending or another reason for all the sudden attention.

25. If you want to know more about Royalty & nonces
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:02 PM
Nov 2019

Have a read about Prince Charles's friend Peter Ball:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Ball_(bishop)#Bishop_of_Gloucester,_police_caution_and_resignation

And if you want more, google Charles's friend Sir (of course) Jimmy Savile (I recommend that you don't do this after eating).

totodeinhere

(13,057 posts)
27. I am not excusing his behavior. But he is certain;y not the only British royal to have been
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:21 PM
Nov 2019

involved in scandals like this or even worse.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
28. He fits in with Trump and his perfect phone calls and beautiful notes?
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 11:02 PM
Nov 2019

Should have just said he's on a tight budget and FREE preferred, would be just slightly more digestible?



All of it is a result of our oversexed world?

7 billion+ babies running around as we speak can't be wrong?



 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
29. He's Queen Elizabeth's favorite son, that's how he gets away with so much crap
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 12:01 AM
Nov 2019

Don't believe the british propaganda that the royals are just a figurehead, they still retain real, dangerous power.

truthisfreedom

(23,140 posts)
32. Maybe he was thinking of the limerick
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 03:24 AM
Nov 2019

She offered her honor
He honored her offer
And all through the night
It was on her and off her!

Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
33. Prince Andrew: I didn't have sex with teenager, I was home after Pizza Express in Woking
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 08:28 AM
Nov 2019

Duke of York claims alibi in interview with Emily Maitlis for Newsnight about Jeffrey Epstein links

Jamie Doward
Sun 17 Nov 2019 03.51 EST'
First published on Sat 16 Nov 2019 16.49 EST

The Duke of York claimed on Saturday night that he could not have had sex with a teenage girl in the London home of British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell because he was at home after attending a children’s party at Pizza Express in Woking.

Prince Andrew gave the startling explanation in a bombshell interview with Emily Maitlis for BBC’s Newsnight in which he was grilled about his relationship with the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein, who has been exposed as a paedophile.

In a sometimes rambling and contradictory account of their friendship, which drew accusations of arrogance from viewers, the prince insisted he had not had sex with any women trafficked by Epstein in any of his properties. He confirmed that he had flown on Epstein’s now notorious jet, nicknamed the Lolita Express, and stayed on his private island and at his home in Palm Beach, as well as at his New York mansion.

“If you’re a man it is a positive act to have sex with somebody,” the prince explained. “You have to … take some sort of positive action and so therefore if you try to forget it’s very difficult to try and forget a positive action and I do not remember anything.”

More:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/16/prince-andrew-denies-sex-with-teenager-as-at-home-after-pizza-party

Karma13612

(4,544 posts)
37. Seriously??????? He expects people to believe that horse💩?
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 05:53 PM
Nov 2019

Did you see his eyes fluttering? And he was having to keep his “I sweat/I don’t sweat” story straight. Bull. It’s all just bull

Aussie105

(5,334 posts)
40. Andrew, Andrew, Andrew!
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:07 AM
Nov 2019

The words I was hoping to hear were 'Epstein was a sleazebag, I'm a sleazebag too', but you didn't quite get there.

Never mind, consider them said.

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