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Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:06 AM

Attorney General Barr defends Trump, assails 'Resistance' in fiery speech to conservative lawyers

Source: ABC News

Attorney General Bill Barr on Friday delivered one of his most effusive defenses to date of his expansive views on executive power, in a speech where he accused Democrats who've sought to thwart President Donald Trump's agenda of "using every tool and maneuver to sabotage" the administration.

"In waging a scorched-earth, no-holds-barred war of Resistance against this administration, it is the Left that is engaged in a systematic shredding of norms and undermining the rule of law," Barr said in a speech to conservative lawyers at the Federalist Society's convention in Washington.

Barr went into detail as he assailed the self-described "Resistance" to Trump, accusing them of adopting "dangerous" and "incendiary" language by implying the sitting government is illegitimate.

"This is a very dangerous and indeed incendiary notion to import into the politics of a Democratic republic," Barr said. "The fact is, that, yes, while the president has certainly thrown out the traditional beltway playbook and punctilio, he was upfront about what he was going to do and the people decided that he was going to serve as president."

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Reply Attorney General Barr defends Trump, assails 'Resistance' in fiery speech to conservative lawyers (Original post)
groundloop Nov 16 OP
underpants Nov 16 #1
PatSeg Nov 16 #36
Aquaria Nov 16 #43
PatSeg Nov 16 #47
TomSlick Nov 16 #49
empedocles Nov 16 #2
still_one Nov 16 #3
Lonestarblue Nov 16 #25
tulipsandroses Nov 16 #29
underpants Nov 16 #4
Stallion Nov 16 #28
underpants Nov 16 #30
Calista241 Nov 16 #35
Aquaria Nov 16 #44
PatSeg Nov 16 #37
dewsgirl Nov 16 #5
DBoon Nov 16 #21
MarcA Nov 16 #40
dewsgirl Nov 16 #41
BootinUp Nov 16 #6
groundloop Nov 16 #9
llmart Nov 16 #7
groundloop Nov 16 #13
llmart Nov 16 #15
Aquaria Nov 16 #45
C_U_L8R Nov 16 #8
FiveGoodMen Nov 16 #48
Lonestarblue Nov 16 #10
PatSeg Nov 16 #38
DFW Nov 16 #11
FM123 Nov 16 #12
beachbumbob Nov 16 #14
in2herbs Nov 16 #16
Botany Nov 16 #17
Anon-C Nov 16 #18
dalton99a Nov 16 #19
Bernardo de La Paz Nov 16 #20
bluestarone Nov 16 #22
SunSeeker Nov 16 #23
cstanleytech Nov 16 #24
oregonjen Nov 16 #26
Zambero Nov 16 #27
Nitram Nov 16 #31
Evolve Dammit Nov 16 #32
B Stieg Nov 16 #33
MBS Nov 16 #34
trof Nov 16 #39
Aquaria Nov 16 #42
BlueIdaho Nov 16 #46

Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:08 AM

1. punctilio

I learned something today.

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Response to underpants (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 02:01 PM

36. Same here

I had to go look it up.

For a smart man, he sure does and says some stupid stuff. What on earth did he sell his soul for?

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #36)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 03:19 PM

43. He's not all that smart

Evil in his cunning, but smart? Doubtful.

Punctilio is legalese jargon that any law firm mailroom clerk can pick up if they have their ears open.

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Response to Aquaria (Reply #43)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:07 PM

47. True

Though I still think he's too smart to be involved with someone as dumb, incompetent, and corrupt as Donald Trump. Its not like he was part of government already and had to adapt to Trump, he auditioned for the job.

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Response to underpants (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 07:50 PM

49. What this country needs is more punctilious behavior.

Following the rules is a good thing.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:08 AM

2. barr veru annoyed at all those 'subpoenas', courts, the rule of law.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:09 AM

3. No Barr, you are the dangerous one, should be charged with obstructing justice

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Response to still_one (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:57 AM

25. Should be impeached for dereliction of duty to act as the people's attorney.

And for wasting taxpayersí dollars chasing conspiracy theories around the world.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #25)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 11:38 AM

29. Exactly right. Somehow these assholes forget that they are on our dime. Not Trump's

Though I suspect that they are getting paid by others as well- whether that's big business or foreign nations so its to their benefit to keep the orange clown in office for more financial gain. Fucking traitors.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:11 AM

4. Uh...the Constitution?

knee-jerk tendency [among Democrats and the media] to see the legislative and judicial branches as the good guys, protecting the people from a rapacious, would-be autocrat."

"I don't deny that Congress has some implied authority," Barr said,

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Response to underpants (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 11:36 AM

28. I Can't Believe an Attorney General Said Congress Has Implied Authority

Congress has defined Impeachment authority-surely in a room full of attorneys a couple raised their eyebrows


Article I, Section 2, Clause 5 provides:
The House of Representatives ... shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.
Article I, Section 3, Clauses 6 and 7 provides:
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present.
Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

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Response to Stallion (Reply #28)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 11:39 AM

30. And first in order

For a reason.

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Response to Stallion (Reply #28)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:49 PM

35. From listening to the speech

I don't think he was talking about impeachment when those lines came up. He was in the middle of bitching about onerous oversight, FOIA requests, and the number of forced cloture votes on everything in the Senate.

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Response to Stallion (Reply #28)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 03:22 PM

44. Why I said he's cunning, but doubtful that he's smart.

Because any smart person would know what nonsense he's spewing about implied Congressional authority.

For crying out loud, Article I powers are covered extensively in most pre-law or poli-sci courses. You don't even have to go to law school for that.

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Response to underpants (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 02:06 PM

37. "Implied"???

Gee, so much for co-equal branches of government. I guess the Constitution is just a "piece of paper".

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:12 AM

5. His Opus Del ass, is the dangerous one.

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:48 AM

21. a cult supported and nurtured by Francisco Franco

nt

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 02:47 PM

40. Agreed. They falsely accuse others of being what they themselves are. n/t

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Response to MarcA (Reply #40)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 03:01 PM

41. There is a whole lot of that going around ATM.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:12 AM

6. These people freak me tf out. Nt

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:14 AM

9. Yep.... they belong in Colonial England

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:13 AM

7. Well, no, numnuts...

the people actually decided they wanted Hillary.

He should be up next for impeachment, after Pence that is.

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Response to llmart (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:18 AM

13. Exactly..... 3 MILLION more votes, just fucked over by an archaic system

In depth studies have shown that the electoral college has a built in bias of between 0.5 and 1 percent in favor of the repubs. The electoral college, quite obviously, gives more weight to a voter in a small state than to a voter in a populous state. Also, never forget that it was instituted in order to appease slave states. It needs to go.

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Response to groundloop (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:23 AM

15. I agree wholeheartedly that the electoral college is outdated.

We need to abolish it when we take control of all branches of government.

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Response to groundloop (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 03:23 PM

45. That bias could change, and fast

If Texas and/or Arizona goes blue, the advantage will tilt to the Dems.

Hard.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:14 AM

8. Barr has lost his rudder, if he ever had one.

Clearly, he has no idea of right or wrong... much less what's illegal. Resign you fool.

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:15 PM

48. Of course he can tell right from wrong

Wrong is everything he wants to do and right is everything he wants to prevent.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:15 AM

10. Did the people really decide that Trump would be president?

Or was it a combination of Russia and Republican cheating through, at the very least, voter suppression and dirty tricks like closing voting locations near minority neighborhoods or relocating voting locations far from residences and public transportation? Trump did not win. He was put into office. And Iím really tired of Republicans claiming that impeachment and removal of Trump would overthrow an election. That is sheer nonsense because we would still have a Republican, odious Pence, as president.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 02:08 PM

38. Yep

I think Putin would disagree with Bill on that one.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:16 AM

11. The only kind of "Democratic Republic" Barr and Trump seem to admire

That seems to be the Democratic People's Republic of Korea or the defunct German Democratic Republic (DDR, or East Germany, as we used to call it).

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:18 AM

12. I guess when there's smoke they give fiery speeches.

Hey Barr, did you know that when trump asked you to come on board to keep him warm that part of the deal was to set yourself on fire? Burn baby burn...

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:21 AM

14. Pelosi had opportunity earlier to impeach this lying SOB

and make GOP have to defend the partisan use of a govt agency, which of course. will make much easier for the next democratic president to do the same

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:32 AM

16. This may read like an extreme post, but IMO, the only way we can get the Federalist Society

to become a thing of the past is to affect its future and we could do that by crippling the money inherited by the children of these current members. If there is no financial gain to being a member, there is no social gain to being a member, and when there's no social gain it will die, along with the old farts who are present members.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:33 AM

17. Barr, "by implying the sitting government is illegitimate."

It is Bill it is and you know that too but you are keeping the information that Trump was
installed by Russia hidden by keeping the Mueller Report under wraps.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:40 AM

18. We should take him and the Fascist Society at their word.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:40 AM

19. Barr is a full-blown fascist bootlicker

who belongs in prison

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:40 AM

20. If it wasn't clear before, even cultists can see he is tRump's lawyer, not the PEOPLE'S lawyer


But they aren't looking. It was a busy Friday and many Americans were watching hearings.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:02 AM

22. WE are at war with our OWN government!

End of story.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:15 AM

23. The people chose Hillary by 3 million votes, Barr evil fuck. Trump IS illegitimate.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:52 AM

24. Barr really needs to be disbarred. nt

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 11:13 AM

26. Was this speech the outcome of a heated meeting between Trump and Barr?

Wasnít it reported that Trump and Barr had a meeting the other day? Trump must be feeling trapped in a corner and forced Barr to get out and make a speech defending him.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 11:26 AM

27. Resistance? Barr's euphemism for the First Amendment

By nature, authoritarians abhor freedoms of speech, assembly, and expression, unless it happens to parrot their own brand of propaganda.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:00 PM

31. Barr its the Anti-Attorney General. He should be impeached.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:06 PM

32. "... the Left that is engaged in a systematic shredding of norms and undermining the rule of law,"

That's hysterical. GOP is about as rabid and corrupt as the day is long. Piss off Barr.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:17 PM

33. Well, now we know why tRump and Barr had a tussle on Thursday.

Baby tRump is getting unhappy!!!

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:19 PM

34. Very disturbing- and dangerous.

But not just because of his explicit attempt to destroy our democratic foundations and the rule of law. Also not just because his "analysis" represents a Twilight-Zon/Alice-in-Wonderland distortion of reality.
Even more disturbing was the support of the Federalist Society crowd:
Barr earned cheers from the crowd as he repeatedly excoriated, and at times mocked, critics of the "unitary executive" theory, embraced by Barr and others in conservative legal circles who argue for fewer restraints to a president's exercise of his executive power.


And these are the guys who are hand-picking judges for MF45.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 02:37 PM

39. the people decided that he was going to serve as president." BULL. SHIT.

The electoral college put him in, not 'the people'.
'The people' elected Hillary Clinton.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 03:09 PM

42. What ca-ca

"In waging a scorched-earth, no-holds-barred war of Resistance against this administration, it is the Left that is engaged in a systematic shredding of norms and undermining the rule of law," Barr said in a speech to conservative lawyers at the Federalist Society's convention in Washington.

Give one example that isn't dishonest and/or complete delusion, you treasonous fat toad.

Barr went into detail as he assailed the self-described "Resistance" to Trump, accusing them of adopting "dangerous" and "incendiary" language by implying the sitting government is illegitimate.

This is a very dangerous and indeed incendiary notion to import into the politics of a Democratic republic," Barr said.


Oh, look in the mirror, you bloated anal polyp. You conservaXXX have been outright hating government and using far more incendiary language about liberals and minorities for over five decades now--and far than any resistance person ever has.

"The fact is, that, yes, while the president has certainly thrown out the traditional beltway playbook and punctilio, he was upfront about what he was going to do and the people decided that he was going to serve as president."

No, the people didn't decide that; the Electoral College did, lying traitor jerk.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 03:48 PM

46. Fuck Him

That piece of shit will go down in history as the worst, most corrupt, most extra-legal son of a bitch to draw a federal salary. He canít walk into the light soon enough.

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