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Thu Nov 14, 2019, 07:47 PM

Trump asked the Pentagon to explore trench on the border, Pentagon advised against it

Source: CNN

(CNN)The Pentagon pushed back against President Donald Trump's request to construct a trench along the US-Mexico border to stop illegal border crossings, according to a letter obtained by CNN. "USACE determined that construction of an unreinforced 30' x 30' trench, while a deterrent, would take three to five times longer and cost approximately 20 percent more to emplace than other available options," Mark Esper wrote to Trump, referring to the US Army Corps of Engineers. Esper at the time was serving as the Secretary of the Army. The memo was signed June 26, 2018, and sent to the President, according to a defense official.

Trump made the border wall the cornerstone of his 2016 presidential campaign, pledging to construct additional barriers along the southern border. The request mentioned in Esper's letter appears to have been one of many ideas floated by the President amid frustrations over an influx of migrants at the southern border. Trump previously raised wanting to paint the wall black and include French-style doors, according to The Washington Post and confirmed by CNN.

The New York Times also previously reported that Trump considered a "water-filled trench, stocked with snakes or alligators, prompting aides to seek a cost estimate." Trump denied the report on Twitter, saying "I may be tough on Border Security, but not that tough. The press has gone Crazy. Fake News!"

Esper's letter to the President doesn't make mention of snakes or alligators, but it reveals how the Pentagon advised against the President's request to fortify the border with a trench. "Only about 100 miles of the total border has geological conditions favorable to excavating an unreinforced 30' x 30' trench," Esper, who Trump later tapped to be his Secretary of Defense, wrote. "While addressing these challenges can be overcome in one way of another, the overall cost of constructing the trench -- even with the most modern of machinery -- is extremely expensive, and the time it would take to complete it would likely take much longer than other options the USACE developed."

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/14/politics/esper-border-trench-estimate/index.html



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BumRushDaShow Nov 14 OP
Eliot Rosewater Nov 14 #1
Chin music Nov 14 #2
C_U_L8R Nov 14 #3
underpants Nov 14 #5
Iwasthere Nov 14 #4
cstanleytech Nov 14 #8
BumRushDaShow Nov 14 #9
cstanleytech Nov 14 #6
underpants Nov 14 #7
BumRushDaShow Nov 14 #10
underpants Nov 14 #11
BumRushDaShow Nov 14 #13
JohnnyRingo Nov 14 #12
tclambert Nov 14 #14
TeamPooka Nov 15 #15
BHDem53 Nov 15 #16
dalton99a Nov 15 #17
SWBTATTReg Nov 15 #18
BumRushDaShow Nov 15 #19
riversedge Nov 15 #20

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Nov 14, 2019, 07:48 PM

1. He and everyone who supports him are SCUM

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Nov 14, 2019, 07:52 PM

3. Works really well up-and down- hill (sarc).

Trump is a world class idiot.

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:08 PM

5. This is a literal "bigger shovel" idea

Dig it

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Nov 14, 2019, 07:53 PM

4. Wait. How do you create a trench without absolute flat elevation?

Even elevation changes of 10 or 20 feet would make this impossible???

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Response to Iwasthere (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:13 PM

8. They can be built to the same relative contour as the land for the most part but its still a stupid

as fuck idea for him to ask about it and that's saying something considering how stupid as fuck his wall idea was already.

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Response to Iwasthere (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:20 PM

9. I was thinking about what zoos have done to keep big cats at bay from spectators



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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:11 PM

6. Let me guess he then wanted it filled with alligators and piranha ?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:12 PM

7. So....the dirt just goes away?

Going back, how would the snakes an gators survive? They aren't just thing that exist. They eat - that's pretty much what they do. Other than making more of them.

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Response to underpants (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:25 PM

10. You do realize

that we have fallen way down into the rabbit hole now!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:39 PM

11. Oh I get it. That should be the Fox News avatar

Nunes and Jordan yesterday were akin to an acid trip of talk radio with inside "jokes", extrapolations, and wild loops around nonsense that you have to be fully indoctrinated to understand.

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Response to underpants (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:52 PM

13. There ya go!



We 'trippin'.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:49 PM

12. Trump brand potting soil!

"How can I monetize this?" What a stable genius.

Dig the ditch! Dig the ditch!!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:03 PM

14. By trench, he means moat.

Filled with molten lava, patrolled by flying dragons.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:43 AM

15. "If a wall won't work, maybe a hole?" thought Trump. Then his aide brought him his nightly KFC meal.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 03:20 AM

16. Mexico will pay for it.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 03:26 AM

17. Trump's very beautiful trench

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 07:23 AM

18. Probably the stupid idiot Steven Miller thought of this...what a moron...

A slew of House Democratic leaders called on White House senior adviser Stephen Miller to resign Thursday after a report that he promoted white nationalist ideas and championed xenophobic rhetoric through the conservative website Breitbart before the 2016 election.

The report, released Tuesday by the Southern Poverty Law Center, analyzed more than 900 emails Miller purportedly sent to former Breitbart writer Katie McHugh in 2015 and 2016. The report’s author said that after reviewing the emails — which were provided to the SPLC by McHugh — he was “unable to find any examples of Miller writing sympathetically or even in neutral tones about any person who is nonwhite or foreign-born.”
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This person is literally, a pathetic human being.

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 07:30 AM

20. cruel moron!

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