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Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:34 AM

Mulvaney Will Defy House Impeachment Subpoena

Source: New York Times



WASHINGTON — Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, reversed gears on Tuesday and said he will follow President Trump’s order to defy a House subpoena and refuse to testify as part of its impeachment inquiry.

“After further consideration, Mr. Mulvaney does not intend to pursue litigation regarding the deposition subpoena issued to him by the U.S. House of Representatives,” his lawyers said in a notice filed in court. “Rather, he will rely on the direction of the president” and government lawyers “in not appearing for the relevant deposition.”

The decision was the latest twist in an odd subplot in the impeachment drama. While other current administration officials have either obeyed the president’s order not to cooperate with the House or defied Mr. Trump and testified anyway, Mr. Mulvaney had sought a third route by seeking to join an existing lawsuit asking a court what he should do.

The plaintiff in that existing lawsuit, Charles M. Kupperman, a former deputy to John R. Bolton when he was the president’s national security adviser, wanted nothing to do with Mr. Mulvaney and fought his attempt to be added to the litigation. After a judge indicated on Monday that he was inclined to side with Mr. Kupperman to keep Mr. Mulvaney out of the suit, Mr. Mulvaney withdrew his request and said he would file a lawsuit of his own. Then he changed his mind again.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/12/us/politics/mulvaney-impeachment-subpoena.html



That's what I figured!

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Reply Mulvaney Will Defy House Impeachment Subpoena (Original post)
BumRushDaShow Nov 12 OP
jberryhill Nov 12 #1
crimycarny Nov 12 #2
Magoo48 Nov 12 #3
dhol82 Nov 12 #4
Dr Hobbitstein Nov 12 #16
LiberalLovinLug Nov 12 #18
dhol82 Nov 12 #21
Magoo48 Nov 12 #5
Phoenix61 Nov 12 #6
bluestarone Nov 12 #7
MFGsunny Nov 12 #8
llashram Nov 12 #9
PuraVidaDreamin Nov 12 #10
groundloop Nov 12 #15
yaesu Nov 12 #11
Iwasthere Nov 12 #12
ffr Nov 12 #13
Enoki33 Nov 12 #14
Chakaconcarne Nov 12 #17
C Moon Nov 12 #19
KY_EnviroGuy Nov 12 #20

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:35 AM

1. He should just plead the 5th and be done with it


He's apparently a co-conspirator.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:36 AM

2. How can people just ignore a subpoena?

Why is there no punishment for this? Can I do this if I get subpoenaed?? This is beyond frustrating to me. What is the point of a subpoena if you can simply ignore it and have no punishment whatsoever?

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Response to crimycarny (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:38 AM

3. Because nobody is willing to enforce them.

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Response to Magoo48 (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:39 AM

4. Only republicans

Remember Susan McDougal?

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Response to dhol82 (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 12:22 PM

16. McDougal served time for contempt of court in a federal trial.

 

Different from a House investigation.

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Response to Magoo48 (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:54 PM

18. From what I understand, Democrats think it would take too long.

That they would have to get a court date, argue that he must comply. Then the potential witness can appeal. All of this can take months if not over a year. So because Democrats think they have enough evidence from the witnesses that did comply to just move forward without them.

But what I have a problem with is why they can't walk and chew gum? I think they should still charge them with refusing to obey a lawful supeona. Have it work its way through the courts, even if the final charges and punishment is dealt out years after. So that these weasels will know that there is a price to pay for their noncompliance. All this handing out of free passes only gives courage to others to also thumb their noses at Congress.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #18)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 04:40 PM

21. Sounds like that should happen

Maybe someone much smarter than I can explain why it’s not happening.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:42 AM

5. Each time someone is simply allowed to opt out, the less seriously impeachment is taken.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:44 AM

6. He was just buying time to say he wouldn't testify.

If he took it to court and lost he'd look like even more of POS than he does now, if that's even possible.

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Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:48 AM

7. Right!

Just another attempted stall tactic!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:49 AM

8. Tricky Micky.

We're not fooled.

We all called your "game plan."

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:52 AM

9. when all is said and done

judicial processes, legislative processes all these types of actions by people defying the law will have said to Congress(HOR) specifically and the American voting public in general, our administration is a dictatorship and the law be damned. It seems that if it's the purview of the U.S. Marshalls, House-Senate SAA, Secret Service, someone!! That they should real busy rounding up and arresting lawbreakers. Seems like that to me, but what do I know? After all this, I can say nothing really.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:53 AM

10. Sounds like it's time to enforce the subpoena!

Like really fucking do it! Send out SIA to his home and arrest this traitors ass!
No more tip toeing around. Democrats have the power! So use it!

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Response to PuraVidaDreamin (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 12:19 PM

15. Damned straight!!!! Last time I checked "subpoena" is different than "request"

I've heard the justification for not putting the time and effort into enforcing subpoenas, and this is one area where I strongly disagree with Pelosi and Schiff. Subpoenas mean NOTHING if the entire fucking tRump crime syndicate knows they won't be enforced. "We'll give you a demerit if you ignore it" is sending totally the wrong message, throw a few of their sorry asses in jail until they testify.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:58 AM

11. coward, traitor, russian tool. nt

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:58 AM

12. They fight dirty we do not

Please Mr Shiff, no more Mr Nice guy.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 12:05 PM

13. This what innocent children with nothing to hide do.

Yeah, right!

Russian assets, all!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 12:18 PM

14. Maybe the Democrats should call his name during the public hearings and

point to an empty chair. Do it for all those at the whithouse who are participating in covering up a crime. Show the Republicans we can beat them at their own game.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:42 PM

17. Because he didn't want to hear what the court had to say......

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 02:30 PM

19. Above: the face of a true traitor to his own country.

That face will go down in history as such—as will all of these fuckwads.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 03:01 PM

20. Does this suggest subpoenas out of Trump's Dept. of Justice can now be disregarded?

Asking on behalf of the other criminal elements of our society.......

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