Tue Nov 5, 2019, 01:39 PM
swag (25,498 posts)
Sondland Updates Impeachment Testimony, Describing Ukraine Quid Pro Quo
Source: New York Times
Michael S. Schmidt By Michael S. Schmidt Nov. 5, 2019 Updated 1:33 p.m. ET WASHINGTON — A critical witness in the impeachment inquiry offered Congress substantial new testimony this week, revealing that he told a top Ukrainian official that the country likely would not receive American military aid unless it publicly committed to investigations President Trump wanted. The disclosure from Gordon D. Sondland, the United States ambassador to the European Union, in four new pages of sworn testimony released on Tuesday, confirmed his involvement in essentially laying out a quid pro quo to Ukraine that he had previously not acknowledged. The testimony offered several major new details beyond the account he gave the inquiry in a 10-hour interview last month. Mr. Sondland provided a more robust description of his own role in alerting the Ukrainians that they needed to go along with investigative requests being demanded by the president’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani. By early September, Mr. Sondland said, he had become convinced that military aid and a White House meeting were conditioned on Ukraine committing to those investigations. Mr. Sondland had said in a text message exchange in early September with William B. Taylor Jr., the top American diplomat in Ukraine, that the president had been clear there was no quid pro quo between the aid and investigations of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., his son and other Democrats. But Mr. Sondland testified last month that he was only repeating what Mr. Trump had told him, leaving open the question of whether he believed the president. The new account suggested that Mr. Sondland may have not been completely forthcoming with Mr. Taylor, and that he was, in fact, aware that the aid was contingent upon the investigations. In his updated testimony, Mr. Sondland recounted how he had discussed the linkage with Andriy Yermak, a top adviser to President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, on the sidelines of a Sept. 1 meeting between Vice President Mike Pence and Mr. Zelensky in Warsaw. Mr. Zelensky had discussed the suspension of aid with Mr. Pence, Mr. Sondland said. Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/us/politics/impeachment-trump.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
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swag | Nov 5 | OP |
George II | Nov 5 | #1 | |
KPN | Nov 5 | #3 | |
NurseJackie | Nov 5 | #5 | |
KPN | Nov 5 | #19 | |
phandancer917 | Nov 5 | #7 | |
Submariner | Nov 5 | #15 | |
patphil | Nov 5 | #2 | |
yaesu | Nov 5 | #4 | |
groundloop | Nov 5 | #9 | |
ffr | Nov 5 | #17 | |
Hassler | Nov 5 | #10 | |
gibraltar72 | Nov 5 | #6 | |
Delphinus | Nov 5 | #8 | |
groundloop | Nov 5 | #11 | |
NBachers | Nov 5 | #13 | |
kairos12 | Nov 5 | #12 | |
Fritz Walter | Nov 5 | #14 | |
ffr | Nov 5 | #16 | |
DavidDvorkin | Nov 5 | #18 | |
Duppers | Nov 5 | #20 | |
Bradical79 | Nov 5 | #21 | |
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin | Nov 5 | #22 |
Response to swag (Original post)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 01:43 PM
George II (46,146 posts)
1. He's getting nervous, he figures he'd be better off if he corrected the "truth".
Response to George II (Reply #1)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 01:49 PM
KPN (9,178 posts)
3. Yup. Sounds like it. Hoping to avoid jail.
Response to KPN (Reply #3)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 02:25 PM
NurseJackie (27,726 posts)
5. I bet there will be many. Remember Jared had multiple updates to his SC applications.
They're all dishonest crooks.
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Response to George II (Reply #1)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 02:35 PM
phandancer917 (59 posts)
7. lol yeah....
...he is trying to stay out of jail and stay rich.
Good luck asshole! |
Response to George II (Reply #1)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:35 PM
Submariner (10,029 posts)
15. His wife probably told him their hotel business is tanking from his lying
Response to swag (Original post)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 01:47 PM
patphil (804 posts)
2. In light of subsequent witness testimony, it was only a matter of time before Sondland
engaged in a little butt covering.
I think his original testimony was deliberately designed to muddy the waters and defuse the whole QPQ problem. Now we shall see how Trump feels about his man Sondland's new position. He'll probably say he doesn't know him, and has his picture taken with a lot of people. Patrick Phillips |
Response to swag (Original post)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 01:58 PM
yaesu (2,485 posts)
4. not Quid Pro Quo, extortion. nt
Response to yaesu (Reply #4)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 02:49 PM
groundloop (7,871 posts)
9. EXTORTION EXTORTION EXTORTION EXTORTION EXTORTION
I've said this for a long time..... IT'S EXTORTION!
SAY IT AGAIN - EXTORTION. quid pro quo implies two parties doing favors for each other, that's not the case here. tRump was withholding aid (which had been approved by Congress) and rightfully belonged to Ukraine, in exchange for Ukraine doing dirty work for dirty donnie's campaign. THAT'S EXTORTION. |
Response to yaesu (Reply #4)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 02:51 PM
Hassler (1,220 posts)
10. +1
Forget the Latin. It's Extortion, it's Bribery. Spelled out in the Constitution as an impeachable offense.
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Response to swag (Original post)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 02:35 PM
gibraltar72 (2,538 posts)
6. Upon further reflection.
Response to swag (Original post)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 02:42 PM
Delphinus (8,037 posts)
8. I'm reading the
deposition now and am amazed by the whining of the repukes at the beginning.
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Response to swag (Original post)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 02:51 PM
groundloop (7,871 posts)
11. Mr. Zelensky had discussed the suspension of aid with Mr. Pence
Hmmmmmmm.........
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Response to groundloop (Reply #11)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:27 PM
NBachers (11,645 posts)
13. Yup - next chapter.
Response to swag (Original post)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:25 PM
kairos12 (7,852 posts)
12. This is why the Rethugs have begun the he did it, but it's not impeachable line.
Response to swag (Original post)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:35 PM
Fritz Walter (2,833 posts)
14. In other words
The rat-fuckery just went into overdrive.
And what perfect timing: with elections going on today across the country! ![]() |
Response to swag (Original post)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:36 PM
ffr (15,842 posts)
16. Mr. Vice President. You knew about the extortion and bribery too?
Oh my word!
We'll need to speak to you too now. |
Response to swag (Original post)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:51 PM
DavidDvorkin (17,108 posts)
18. The word "perjury" is very good for refreshing the memory.
Response to swag (Original post)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 04:36 PM
Duppers (17,812 posts)
20. Pence said he didn't know anything about it!!
Liar.
...meeting between Vice President Mike Pence and Mr. Zelensky in Warsaw. Mr. Zelensky had discussed the suspension of aid with Mr. Pence, Mr. Sondland said. |
Response to swag (Original post)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 05:13 PM
Bradical79 (4,208 posts)
21. Linking Pence directly to explicit talk of the conditions
I like it.
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Response to swag (Original post)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 08:01 PM
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (39,321 posts)
22. No no no
He said squid Go Pro - Donald Trump
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