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Thu Oct 17, 2019, 12:45 PM

Mulvaney said U.S. military aid for Ukraine was held up pending Ukraine's investigation of Democrats

Source: New York Times

Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, told reporters that the release of military aid to Ukraine this summer was linked in part to White House demands that Ukraine’s government investigate what he called corruption by Democrats in the 2016 American presidential campaign. It was the first time a White House official has publicly acknowledged what a parade of current and former administration officials have told impeachment investigators on Capitol Hill.

“The look-back to what happened in 2016 certainly was part of the thing that he was worried about in corruption with that nation,” Mr. Mulvaney told reporters, referring to Mr. Trump. “And that is absolutely appropriate.” He said that the aid was initially withheld because, “Everybody knows this is a corrupt place,” and the president was demanding Ukraine clean up its own government. But Mr. Trump also told Mr. Mulvaney that he was concerned about what he thought was Ukraine’s role in the 2016 campaign.

“Did he also mention to me in passing the corruption related to the D.N.C. server? Absolutely. No question about that,” he said. “But that’s it, and that’s why we held up the money.” Mr. Mulvaney was referring to Mr. Trump’s discredited idea that a server with Hillary Clinton’s missing emails was being held by a company based in Ukraine.

Mr. Mulvaney’s comments undercut the president’s repeated denials that there was a quid pro quo linking his demand for an investigation that could politically benefit him to the release of $391 million in military aid to Ukraine, which is battling Russian-backed separatists on its eastern border.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/17/us/politics/donald-trump-impeachment-news.html



They are like thrill-seekers doing a kamikaze run.

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Reply Mulvaney said U.S. military aid for Ukraine was held up pending Ukraine's investigation of Democrats (Original post)
BumRushDaShow Oct 17 OP
Iliyah Oct 17 #1
bsiebs Oct 17 #2
yellowcanine Oct 17 #3
Iliyah Oct 17 #4
Recursion Oct 17 #5
BumRushDaShow Oct 17 #7
NastyRiffraff Oct 17 #6
muriel_volestrangler Oct 17 #8
Scarsdale Oct 17 #9
turbinetree Oct 17 #10
machoneman Oct 17 #11
Scurrilous Oct 17 #12
yellowcanine Oct 17 #13
ck4829 Oct 18 #14

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 12:48 PM

1. OH my.

They illegally held aid for dirt on Democrats namely one's son.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 12:55 PM

2. "Get over it"

Mulvaney's response to the injection of partisan politics into our foreign policy.. "Get over it". These people are traitors to the entire world.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 12:57 PM

3. Another "modified limited hangout" (See Nixon, Watergate)

And it won't work any better than it did for Nixon. The idea is to concede facts which you know the opposition has but deny stuff you don't think they have. It breaks down when more shoes drop, which they always do.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 12:58 PM

4. Sooooooooooooooooo

All the witnesses are lying.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 01:04 PM

5. That's the acting Chief of Staff

The rats are bailing faster than I thought.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 01:15 PM

7. But he is also in charge of OMB

(Office of Management and Budget)

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 01:12 PM

6. The "corruption" comes from Trump & Co.

In fact, Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelensky ran on an anti-corruption platform, looking to clean up Kremlin-backed Yanukovych's rabidly corrupt government. Yanukovych was also supported by his employee, Paul Manifort.

Ukraine was undoubtedly corrupt under Yanukovych, aided by Putin and Manifort. However, Trump has no credibility in demanding Zelensky take care of corruption in his country. It remains to be seen if Zelensky is successful in his pledge to root out corruption, but he's vowed to remove immunity for the country's president, including himself. Of course, it's not Ukraine's corruption Trump is worried about; he wants dirt on the Democrats in general and Hunter Biden in particular. And Mulvaney has just greatly increased his own culpability, as well as Trump's, in this whole shitstorm.


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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 01:28 PM

8. Brazen it out. "L'etat, c'est moi". The King gets to do what he wants. Trump is CEO of USA

and chairman, so he controls whatever the state does, and cannot be faulted. He reluctantly submits to a 4 year performance review, but of course it's OK to use all the levers of power to rig the election. Because he's King. It's good to be king.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 01:49 PM

9. Hey Mickey.

Too bad the "gang that could not shoot straight" were looking in the wrong place for corruption. They should have been investigating right there at the WH, and Ghouliani. I could not despise these traitors any more even if I tried. We are paying their salaries, to lie their asses off to us daily. Oh, and the G7 will be held at Bedbug Central - Doral so the emolument clause is being kicked aside once more for the orange traitors benefit.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 02:44 PM

11. Wow, is this the Mik's way of exonerating himself of the crime or a new Trump tactic?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 03:15 PM

12. K&R

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:54 PM

13. RIP "Executive Privilege" defense for Micky. He just threw it in the toilet.

Time to go talk to the Impeachment committees, Micky.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Oct 18, 2019, 04:37 AM

14. K&R

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