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Mon Oct 14, 2019, 07:44 PM

Former Fort Worth Police Officer Aaron Dean Charged With Murder For Shooting Atatiana Jefferson

Source: DFW CBS Local

The Fort Worth Police officer who shot and killed a woman in her home early Saturday morning has been booked into the Tarrant County Jail and charged with murder.

Bond has been set at $200,000

Read more: https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/10/14/former-fort-worth-police-officer-aaron-dean-charged-murder-atatiana-jefferson/

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Reply Former Fort Worth Police Officer Aaron Dean Charged With Murder For Shooting Atatiana Jefferson (Original post)
imavoter Oct 14 OP
yardwork Oct 14 #1
TreasonousBastard Oct 14 #2
rpannier Oct 14 #5
iluvtennis Oct 14 #3
rickyhall Oct 14 #8
dewsgirl Oct 14 #4
yaesu Oct 14 #6
Iggo Oct 14 #7
Aristus Oct 15 #11
Chemisse Oct 15 #9
blakstoneranger Oct 15 #10
JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 15 #12
JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 15 #13
MicaelS Oct 15 #14
JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 15 #15
MicaelS Oct 15 #16
Beaverhausen Oct 15 #17
MicaelS Oct 16 #18
JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 16 #19
MicaelS Oct 16 #20
Sapient Donkey Oct 16 #21
imavoter Oct 16 #24
JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 17 #27
imavoter Oct 16 #25
regnaD kciN Oct 16 #26
imavoter Oct 17 #29
tblue37 Oct 16 #23
tblue37 Oct 16 #22
inwiththenew Oct 17 #28

Response to imavoter (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 07:49 PM

1. Good.

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Response to imavoter (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 07:51 PM

2. OK, but are his trainers or supervisors taking any heat?

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 08:07 PM

5. Reading the story a perusing others about it, it seems the FWPD is a bit of a mess

Joel Fitzgerald’s Attorney Says If Former Police Chief Had Been Reinstated ‘Atatiana Probably Would Be Alive’

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/10/13/joel-fitzgeralds-attorney-says-if-former-police-chief-had-been-reinstated-atatiana-probably-would-be-alive/

I am skeptical of the attorney for Joel Fitzgerald's take. But, it does give an idea of some dysfunction in the FWPD

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Response to imavoter (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 08:00 PM

3. Good news. Bond should be higher in my opinion. Unacceptable to shoot through bedroom window

at the Ms Jefferson in her home. Watched the officer cam tape and not even 2 seconds elapsed between the cop saying put your hands up and his firing shots.

He was not in danger (as he was outside the house) and when not in imminent danger the cop is supposed to take cover and call for backup. Enough of this shooting innocent ppl. Hope he is found guilty of murder just like Amber Guyger. Texas really needs to certify their officers know the correct police procedures and policies.

Rest in Peace Atatiana Jefferson

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 11:49 PM

8. Me, too. Should be 200 million.

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Response to imavoter (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 08:06 PM

4. Good.

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Response to imavoter (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 09:17 PM

6. I'm not sure is it is such a hard task to fill police positions in these cities that they take

anyone with a heartbeat that can pass training or if its just poor recruitment but the biggest problem is these officers are scared to death of their jobs to the point of being trigger happy.

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Response to imavoter (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 10:10 PM

7. This guy.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:28 AM

11. Go ahead; scowl all you want, you trigger-happy asshole!

You're not tough. You're a weak, cowardly shitpile, and I hope you go to prison for the rest of your life. In which case, you're going to need that scowl.

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Response to imavoter (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:14 AM

9. Oh good!

It's long overdue for shootings such as these to receive prompt and definitive moves toward justice.

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Response to imavoter (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:32 AM

10. I Tried

When I left the military, I applied for the police academy. One of the things they make you do is take a polygraph and a psych exam. During my processing, I ran into a number of people who were anxious to be officers. One such guy had established a relationship with some officers over a month prior to starting training. He had been going on incentive rides with several officers. But one day while sitting in a conference room, i overheard him tell another trainee "I can't wait to put one into one of those crackheads". I ignored it but I didn't forget. I got a job working for a private company so I dropped out of training. I called the station to explain that I wouldn't be back. I also told them about this one cadet. They said they had already heard complaints about the guy. He was overheard using the N..word several times. They kicked him out of training. What's funny is that he passed the psych exam and his polygraph! Some lucky person is still alive because this monster couldn't keep his mouth shut!

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Response to blakstoneranger (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:48 PM

12. The police told you details about complaints about another cadet?

How unusual. Police are normally tight-lipped, happy to take your statement, unwilling to share others' statements. Those cops need remedial training on when to keep their mouths shut, especially in conversation with not-cops.

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Response to imavoter (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:54 PM

13. A news show stated that the victim was pointing a gun at the window.

If that's a fact, and it's on video recordings, the charge of murder might be reduced or dropped. It could be a case of "good people on both sides", she has the right to protect her home, self, and occupants; he has the right to self-defense.

There better be clear video of a gun barrel pointed at him, or he's toast.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:04 PM

14. News report is correct.

Last edited Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:04 PM - Edit history (1)

I was wrong.

She saw the cop's face and pointed her gun at the window. Cop then shot her.

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 04:08 PM

15. If that's the case, the murder charge is a good one.

And this guy should be too old to be a cop, by the time he gets out of prison.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:04 PM

16. I was wrong, corrected my post. n/t

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 05:56 PM

17. Did you watch the bodycam video?

there didn't seem to be time for her to see him and point her gun.

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #17)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 08:03 AM

18. I am going by the latest news here in Ft. Worth.

Last edited Wed Oct 16, 2019, 08:44 AM - Edit history (1)

The latest news is the nephew of the woman who she was sitting said his aunt heard a noise and got her gun out of her purse and pointed at the window.

She also had a carry permit.

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #18)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 02:52 PM

19. If that's the case, the cop will probably get off, maybe get his job back

I don't know Texas carry permit rules, but some states require training. The training I took stressed that you don't aim a gun unless you're sure of your target. So, you don't aim a gun at a window at night if you can't see what's outside.

If the cop saw someone pointing a gun at him, even if she couldn't see anything, he can make a case that the shot was justified. Dunno if it will fly, but I think a good lawyer will get the charges tossed out.

Apparently, the victim made a deadly mistake.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #19)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 04:04 PM

20. Cops did NOT identify themselves.

Did not go to the front door. Entered a gate to the side of the house and we're walking right outside the house.

Cops fucked up big time.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #19)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 04:19 PM

21. It's unfortunate, but I think you might be right.

It really shouldn't matter that she had a gun on her while investigating unknown people in her backyard at 2am in the morning. They will take his word that she pointed the gun at him and that he feared for his life. It's infuriating to think about.

I just cannot understand why the cops wouldn't knock on the door, and why they felt they had to approach the situation assuming that anyone in the house was a threat.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #19)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 10:06 PM

24. in texas, you do not need a carry permit inside your residence or your vehicle

Also, the officer did not identify himself at the house like he was supposed to.

I'm paraphrasing, but the chief of police even said..."this is texas. He didn't identify himself, and if she heard something, it's understandable she might feel the need to get her firearm" I'd have to find the minute mark on a couple of the videos, but the interm Police Chief said something like that...
at least twice.

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Response to imavoter (Reply #24)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 11:01 AM

27. It's still a bad idea to point a gun at a window when you don't know what (or who) is outside.

A thief, a burglar, a dog, a kid, a cop, a neighbor, if you don't know, keep the gun pointed at the ceiling or the floor. Not at the window.

I saw video of the police chief, and he's right. The cop should identify himself as a cop and give clear and repeated warnings. But with a gun pointed directly at him, there may be an exception to that procedure.

Sad that she did what she thought was best for herself and other occupants, but her error in gun-handling may have contributed to her being shot.

Is the video clear on where the gun was pointed?

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #18)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 10:11 PM

25. the nephew is 8

so I don't know how much they are gonna let this fall on him.
I hope not much, because he should not have to be required to carry that burden.

and we also don't know if that story is true.

Lee Merritt told the press that the boy told him that he had wanted to go to the window, but the aunt wouldn't let him.
This could have been the little boy and not her. ugh. It's bad enough.

it's unknown, at this time where the gun was...and if it can't be proven...a judge may not later allow it...we'll see.

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Response to imavoter (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 11:16 PM

26. I'm guessing he said that after "intensive questioning" down at the station, right?

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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #26)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 02:57 PM

29. I really don't know

there haven't been any reports that they "interrogated" the boy.
I'm sure Merritt would be all over that if that was true.

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 04:27 PM

23. He didn't identify himself as police. nt

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Response to imavoter (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 04:24 PM

22. As he should be. nt

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Response to imavoter (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 11:17 AM

28. If she did point the gun at him I don't see a murder charge sticking

A cop in South Carolina shot a homeowner with a gun and there was no charge even filed against him. We'll see though.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/07/greenville-deputy-cleared-after-shooting-homeowner-through-front-window/1949010001/

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